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Post #516161  Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:51 pm 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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Moyes and 2 West Ham players test positive for Covid. We only played them 3 days ago. Hopefully nothing transmitted to Arsenal players

I would have thought that if the sick players were in the team our whole team would be locked down and no games. Given some research I have heard about suggests that you can be contagious For 5 days without showing symptoms it becomes very messy. Maybe the testing will show if u have it.

No doubt neither club is taking any chances being that the Carabao match is tomorrow. Testing possibly done today and again prior to match.

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The last player to demand guarantees of signings and actual names of players was RVP. It never ended well that conversation with Gazidis. We all know where he ended up a year later lifting the PL.

Kroenke I believe owned more than 50% of Arsenal by the time RVP left in 2012. Full ownership in 2018.

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Zed wrote:
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Kroenke I believe owned more than 50% of Arsenal by the time RVP left in 2012. Full ownership in 2018.

Very much more than 50% by 2012 Zed. Kroenke owned two-thirds (66.64%) of the club as early as April 2011 when Fiszman died.


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I would have thought that if the sick players were in the team our whole team would be locked down and no games. Given some research I have heard about suggests that you can be contagious For 5 days without showing symptoms it becomes very messy. Maybe the testing will show if u have it.

No doubt neither club is taking any chances being that the Carabao match is tomorrow. Testing possibly done today and again prior to match.

Worrying times as your season can be totally derailed if you have to defer a large number of games. Season is already crowded enough

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Very much more than 50% by 2012 Zed. Kroenke owned two-thirds (66.64%) of the club as early as April 2011 when Fiszman died.

It was two-thirds at the time in 2011 Bernard, yes.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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No doubt neither club is taking any chances being that the Carabao match is tomorrow. Testing possibly done today and again prior to match.

Worrying times as your season can be totally derailed if you have to defer a large number of games. Season is already crowded enough

Too much fixture congestion lately. Seems C19 tests were done Monday.

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Post #516167  Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:56 am 
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I wonder if Alexis demanded ‘assurances’ from Man U about buying players before signing a £500k per week contract? Anyone think Özil asked for any assurances beyond soft fluffy towels?

It’s mostly bollocks. Players don’t give a *%^@ about much beyond their personal remuneration. Man U have been signing ‘ambitious’ world-class players - NAMES - for years without a sniff of European opportunity.


LOL..generally speaking I wholeheartedly agree with you. But there are exceptions. Cesc left because we didn't have a good squad and didn't seem like we would.
RvP was reportedly asking the same about who to buy, etc. but with him its hard to tell.

So, we get down to Aubameyang and I think with him, I can see him wanting to know that we are not going to spend the next few years fighting to be top half of the table.

Normally, I'd certainly agree many if not most players are looking for the pay.

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Quite surreal. Just been watching the highlights of last night’s West Ham game. Whenever West Ham scored a blast of Twist and Shout was relayed over the sound system to the empty stadium. All sounded weird and incredibly naff.

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Post #516169  Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:44 am 
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Rich wrote:
Moyes and 2 West Ham players test positive for Covid.


Jesus, this means Wilfried Zaha probably has it too then.


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Zed wrote:
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Worrying times as your season can be totally derailed if you have to defer a large number of games. Season is already crowded enough

Too much fixture congestion lately. Seems C19 tests were done Monday.

I read that all Arsenal players were tested at some point after the West Ham game and there were no positives. Like all clubs, the players and staff must be being tested multiple times each week. The stakes are so high if there is an outbreak


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Ornstein saying Arsenal are open to letting Reis Nelson go on loan this season. With Willian joining and Saka and AMN being able to play right wing I think it is the right decision. Get him playing a full season of prem football - including penalty clauses for the team who takes him if he doesn't get enough game time. Then reassess next summer.
Ornstein also saying Partey and Aouar remain the primary targets but Arsenal have back ups.

One player who's name has been linked with a number of clubs previously but I've not heard much this summer is Dennis Zakaria, plays for Muchengladbach, central midfield, 23, Swiss international. When Xhaka blew up there was talk of us trying to send Xhaka there in exchange for this lad


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Maybe he stipulated that he only wants central midfielders who pass the ball sideways? Perhaps he's come to relish the challenge of having to come back and fetch it himself?
When needed we do have a bloke sitting on the sidelines who is a more than useful opener of defences. I don't mind a sideways pass provided it eventually gets to somebody with imagination - the great Gilberto played many of them for Arsenal and Brazil.

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Rich wrote:
Ornstein saying Arsenal are open to letting Reis Nelson go on loan this season. With Willian joining and Saka and AMN being able to play right wing I think it is the right decision. Get him playing a full season of prem football - including penalty clauses for the team who takes him if he doesn't get enough game time. Then reassess next summer.
Ornstein also saying Partey and Aouar remain the primary targets but Arsenal have back ups.

One player who's name has been linked with a number of clubs previously but I've not heard much this summer is Dennis Zakaria, plays for Muchengladbach, central midfield, 23, Swiss international. When Xhaka blew up there was talk of us trying to send Xhaka there in exchange for this lad


I believe we can only register 17 non-homegrown players for the 25-man squad? We need to ship out a few to make space for new midfielders.


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Maybe he stipulated that he only wants central midfielders who pass the ball sideways? Perhaps he's come to relish the challenge of having to come back and fetch it himself?
When needed we do have a bloke sitting on the sidelines who is a more than useful opener of defences. I don't mind a sideways pass provided it eventually gets to somebody with imagination - the great Gilberto played many of them for Arsenal and Brazil.


I think not playing/including Özil in the team could be to avoid paying him any extra bonuses. He would still get his basic but the club sort of save a bit of money.


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When needed we do have a bloke sitting on the sidelines who is a more than useful opener of defences. I don't mind a sideways pass provided it eventually gets to somebody with imagination - the great Gilberto played many of them for Arsenal and Brazil.


I think not playing/including Özil in the team could be to avoid paying him any extra bonuses. He would still get his basic but the club sort of save a bit of money.

'Özil' and 'saving money' look odd in the same post. But yes.

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I think not playing/including Özil in the team could be to avoid paying him any extra bonuses. He would still get his basic but the club sort of save a bit of money.

'Özil' and 'saving money' look odd in the same post. But yes.

It’ll be interesting to see if Özil gets in the team tonight. If he isn’t selected for even the League Cup, the odds on him having already played his last game for Arsenal will shorten, I imagine. Same goes for Guendouzi.


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Goonie wrote:
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Ornstein saying Arsenal are open to letting Reis Nelson go on loan this season. With Willian joining and Saka and AMN being able to play right wing I think it is the right decision. Get him playing a full season of prem football - including penalty clauses for the team who takes him if he doesn't get enough game time. Then reassess next summer.
Ornstein also saying Partey and Aouar remain the primary targets but Arsenal have back ups.

One player who's name has been linked with a number of clubs previously but I've not heard much this summer is Dennis Zakaria, plays for Muchengladbach, central midfield, 23, Swiss international. When Xhaka blew up there was talk of us trying to send Xhaka there in exchange for this lad


I believe we can only register 17 non-homegrown players for the 25-man squad? We need to ship out a few to make space for new midfielders.

Arsenal have 19 non Homegrown players over the age of 21: Leno, Runnarsson Tierney, Sokratis, Gabriel, Ceballos, Lacazette, Özil, Torreira, Willian, Aubameyang, Cédric, Pépé, Mustafi, Pablo Mari, David Luiz, Elneny, Kolasinac, and Xhaka
The limit is 17 so we need to move 3 players on (or not include them in our squad *cough Özil cough*) to be able to make a signing
I would think Sokratis, Kolasinac, Torreira, Elneny are the ones targeted to move - as well as Guendouzi but he doesn't come in to this listing yet.
It doesn't mean we can't buy before we sell because we could buy Partey, not find a buyer for Sokratis (for example) and just not include him in our Prem squad for the season


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Wolves sold Doherty for £15m and just sign Semedo from barca for up to £37m. Doesn't seem to make sense.

BBC also show a graphic that Wolves are 1 CB away from being able to field an entire Portuguese 11. It makes you wonder how Wolves are complying with the home grown and non home grown rules. They only have 4 englishmen in their entire first team squad


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I didn't know loaned players could have a proviso they play a certain amount or penalized if not. I'm assuming this doesn't include injuries obviously. Great idea! :58big-emoticons:

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I didn't know loaned players could have a proviso they play a certain amount or penalized if not. I'm assuming this doesn't include injuries obviously. Great idea! :58big-emoticons:

It is just a contract between clubs, if it is agreed to you can put whatever clause you want in it.

Lots of players have payment clauses after a certain number of games, or payment clauses if they play over 70 minutes in games etc. Which is why, particularly lower down the leagues where money is very tight, you see managers dropping players or regularly subbing them off - essentially on instructions from the chairman because they can't afford, or don't want to pay those extra fees


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https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... a-18974795
Interesting article on our new left field signing in goal.
Good with his feet, good at 1v1's

I think this is a calculated gamble for this season for a very low price, then look to go back for David Raya next season.


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Very tough run of games in the league after the cup match tonight. Last year we took 3 points from these games.
Liverpool A
Sheff Utd H
Man City A
Leicester H
Man Utd A

It isn't beyond the realms of possibility that we don't win a single one of those games. Those 3 away games are the toughest in the league. I'd hope with Mikel's tactics we can put up a better showing. 3 draws would be excellent for the belief even if it doesn't push the points tally on that much. All 3 will come and attack us, so let them have the ball, stay compact and hit them on the counter. With those 3 away games, the 2 at home become must win!


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I'm reading articles we are prioritizing Partey over Aouar if we can only get one. Glad to see Arteta has been reading my posts since I threatened to block him. :42laughter:

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In the AG universe
Liverpool away draw
Sheff Utd home win
Man City away draw
Leicester home win
Man Utd away 9-2 win...payback is a female dog.

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Post #516185  Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:29 pm 
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Proper team:

1 B Leno
16 R Holding
23 D Luiz (c)
31 S Kolasinac
15 A Maitland-Niles
25 M Elneny
28 J Willock
7 B Saka
19 N Pépé
30 E Nketiah
24 R Nelson

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2 H Bellerin
4 W Saliba
8 D Ceballos
9 A Lacazette
12 Willian
13 R Rúnarsson
34 G Xhaka


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Post #516186  Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:39 pm 
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Any links for the game?


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Lovely effort from Reiss


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Lovely effort from Reiss


How are you watching it Brom?


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Any links for the game?

Sorry Soc I've got a dodgy login for something called 247tv off a friend of a friend, been dodgy recently but working so far tonight.


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Lovely effort from Reiss


How are you watching it Brom?

See above Soc it's streaming DAZN.


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We're on top, a few half chances so far but no end product yet.


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Surely that's a penalty?


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Clear pen foul on Saka ref gives a goal kick - presumably no VAR.


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Hazuki wrote:
Surely that's a penalty?

Definitely.


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Hazuki wrote:
Surely that's a penalty?


How are you watching it Haz?


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Hazuki wrote:
Surely that's a penalty?


How are you watching it Haz?

It's on TV here in Sweden!


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http://mzupdate.com/ronaldo/hd4.php here you go soc, don't crash it for me! refresh if it stops, seems decent


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Saka the class act on the pitch


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Surely that's a penalty?

Definitely.

Seen the clip. That is unbelievable that it hasn’t been given. As Saka is 5 yards out with only the gk to beat and the defender is making to attempt to play the ball it should be a red card as well.
The defender may not be trying to foul Saka but he’s all over the back of him, clips his leg and effectively wrestled him to the ground. One of the worst decisions I’ve seen


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Rich wrote:
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Definitely.

Seen the clip. That is unbelievable that it hasn’t been given. As Saka is 5 yards out with only the gk to beat and the defender is making to attempt to play the ball it should be a red card as well.
The defender may not be trying to foul Saka but he’s all over the back of him, clips his leg and effectively wrestled him to the ground. One of the worst decisions I’ve seen


Referee couldn’t point for a goal kick any quicker or with more gusto. Think he thought I’d have to send him off if I give this. I’d better bottle this with panache!!


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