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Post #513761  Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:58 am 
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There is a difference between having a strong perspective (Rachel Maddow for example) and doing what the Republicans and Fox are doing which is ignoring anything that doesn't fit their narrative or calling it fake news.

Yesterday was a case in point. During the hearing Devin Nunes was shouting that CNN was fake news and had put up a headline that was misrepresenting what was happening. If you look at what CNN is saying you find this is not the case at all. There is a diversity of views about how damning Sondland's testimony was.

The fake news narrative and the lazy denigration of NYT, WsPo, CNN, al-Jazeera, etc. is completely irresponsible.


sign yourself in voluntarily they'll go easier with the treatment ..... Rachel Maddow " strong perspective " :laughing7: :laughing7: Laura Ingraham has five times the intelligence ...

"lazy denigration " ...... get your facts right ..I like Al Jazeera


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:laughing7: :laughing7: without a doubt the most stupid / biased news network on the planet ....



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:laughing7: Strangely ..... coming from a moron like yourself I find that quite reassuring .


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Maureen at Spurs - don't mind admitting it's got me a little worried. Please God it doesn't go well, because if it does we're in for a lot of pain.


Don't worry Brom ... here's how it will pan out .

Little honeymoon period ; results will pick up a new era will be hailed at Totting .....then a couple of months down the track ; after a loss at Newcastle , Norwich whatever Jose will blame Kane and Ali for not pulling their weight , asking the media how they ever played for England .... and things will turn to custard .

Meanwhile in the happier half of North London we'll still have Unai at the reins f**** things up royally .


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Maureen at Spurs - don't mind admitting it's got me a little worried. Please God it doesn't go well, because if it does we're in for a lot of pain.


Don't worry Brom ... here's how it will pan out .

Little honeymoon period ; results will pick up a new era will be hailed at Totting .....then a couple of months down the track ; after a loss at Newcastle , Norwich whatever Jose will blame Kane and Ali for not pulling their weight , asking the media how they ever played for England .... and things will turn to custard .

Meanwhile in the happier half of North London we'll still have Unai at the reins f**** things up royally .

Let's hope you're right about Jose and wrong about Unai, Kiwi. I however remain worried as I think it's likely we'll stumble along going nowhere with Emery, and have a nasty feeling that a rested and reflective Mourinho is going to come back with some of his old vigour.


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Post #513765  Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:10 am 
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I'll be very surprised if we get anything other than the usual dross tomorrow. If we fail to beat Soton, Emery shouldn't leave the ground as Arsenal manager.

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Post #513766  Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:10 am 
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bromley gooner wrote:
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Don't worry Brom ... here's how it will pan out .

Little honeymoon period ; results will pick up a new era will be hailed at Totting .....then a couple of months down the track ; after a loss at Newcastle , Norwich whatever Jose will blame Kane and Ali for not pulling their weight , asking the media how they ever played for England .... and things will turn to custard .

Meanwhile in the happier half of North London we'll still have Unai at the reins f**** things up royally .

Let's hope you're right about Jose and wrong about Unai, Kiwi. I however remain worried as I think it's likely we'll stumble along going nowhere with Emery, and have a nasty feeling that a rested and reflective Mourinho is going to come back with some of his old vigour.

I also think he is working with a more talented squad than he had at Utd.

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Post #513767  Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:38 am 
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Darren wrote:
I'll be very surprised if we get anything other than the usual dross tomorrow. If we fail to beat Soton, Emery shouldn't leave the ground as Arsenal manager.

Leno, Bellerin, Tierney, Sokratis, Luiz, Torriera, Guendouzi, Özil, Pépé, Lacazette, Aubamayang

I would still have lots of questions over the balance of the midfield and attack, and think there are upgrades required in central defence and midfield but that is probably the 11 most talented players available. They have to find a way to win against Southampton at home.

ps: play Torriera as a holding midfielder!


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Darren wrote:
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Let's hope you're right about Jose and wrong about Unai, Kiwi. I however remain worried as I think it's likely we'll stumble along going nowhere with Emery, and have a nasty feeling that a rested and reflective Mourinho is going to come back with some of his old vigour.

I also think he is working with a more talented squad than he had at Utd.


Not sure about that Darren. There are major structural problems with that Totts' squad - not the least being that three of their first choice back four are running down their contracts, as is their major creative talent.


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Post #513769  Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:21 am 
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Included in the new labour manifesto. They are just clueless aren’t they.
Millions of hardworking Britons needs their help and they seem intent on virtue signalling quests for justice that help nobody.


I am gonna vote after all. Likely Green or less likely Lib Dem’s.


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Post #513770  Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:23 am 
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Oddly, though we're playing like drains and levels of discontent are sky high again, all our recent fixtures have sold out well in advance of the match day, including - amazingly - the Europa Cup games.


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Post #513771  Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:26 am 
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kiwipete wrote:
Decaf wrote:
There is a difference between having a strong perspective (Rachel Maddow for example) and doing what the Republicans and Fox are doing which is ignoring anything that doesn't fit their narrative or calling it fake news.

Yesterday was a case in point. During the hearing Devin Nunes was shouting that CNN was fake news and had put up a headline that was misrepresenting what was happening. If you look at what CNN is saying you find this is not the case at all. There is a diversity of views about how damning Sondland's testimony was.

The fake news narrative and the lazy denigration of NYT, WsPo, CNN, al-Jazeera, etc. is completely irresponsible.


sign yourself in voluntarily they'll go easier with the treatment ..... Rachel Maddow " strong perspective " :laughing7: :laughing7: Laura Ingraham has five times the intelligence ...

"lazy denigration " ...... get your facts right ..I like Al Jazeera

I was referring to the general tendency to describe those outlets as fake news. I know you like Al Jazeera.

Getting back to the point: which reasonably reputable outlet manages to put a positive spin on Putin?

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Post #513772  Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:31 am 
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TOP GUN wrote:
Included in the new labour manifesto. They are just clueless aren’t they.
Millions of hardworking Britons needs their help and they seem intent on virtue signalling quests for justice that help nobody.


I am gonna vote after all. Likely Green or less likely Lib Dem’s.

But how much harm could such an exercise do? Also, it is not mere virtue signalling. Diplomatic relations with African countries for example are pretty important to British interests this sort of things does go down well.

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Decaf wrote:
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Included in the new labour manifesto. They are just clueless aren’t they.
Millions of hardworking Britons needs their help and they seem intent on virtue signalling quests for justice that help nobody.


I am gonna vote after all. Likely Green or less likely Lib Dem’s.

But how much harm could such an exercise do? Also, it is not mere virtue signalling. Diplomatic relations with African countries for example are pretty important to British interests this sort of things does go down well.


How is it helping people really. Time has to move on without dwelling on stuff. Do you think this is a vote winner ? I think it makes them look a little looney.

Half the UK earns less than 28k a year, pretty much nothing. Is this what they want to hear.

I want to see my government run an effective economy, grow jobs and business and protect its citizens. How is stuff like this helping.

It’s just like labour saying they are pushing for unilateral nuclear disarmament. Great idea. Good luck with that guys now off you go and speak to Putin and see how far you get.

All this stuff is about giving themselves a great big lefty boner and nothing else


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f**** things up royally .
That phrase has a bit more meaning these days! Anyway, play this nice and loud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0mQ1ojc9PQ

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DHD wrote:
Oddly, though we're playing like drains and levels of discontent are sky high again, all our recent fixtures have sold out well in advance of the match day, including - amazingly - the Europa Cup games.

DHD I'm going to the Europa match next Thursday. It think the attraction of those fixtures is seeing Martinelli in action.


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Oddly, though we're playing like drains and levels of discontent are sky high again, all our recent fixtures have sold out well in advance of the match day, including - amazingly - the Europa Cup games.

DHD I'm going to the Europa match next Thursday. It think the attraction of those fixtures is seeing Martinelli in action.

It’s simply more fun. We play expansive football in those games with more freedom and it’s refreshing to watch young players doing their best.


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Darren wrote:
I'll be very surprised if we get anything other than the usual dross tomorrow. If we fail to beat Soton, Emery shouldn't leave the ground as Arsenal manager.

Darren he shouldn't leave the ground as Arsenal manager even if we win. 3 points at home against the team in 19th place, if it happens? Seriously how can Raul/Edu not see that Emery is not up to it. Whatever you think of Levy's decision to tank Poch at least he MADE the decision.


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DHD I'm going to the Europa match next Thursday. It think the attraction of those fixtures is seeing Martinelli in action.

It’s simply more fun. We play expansive football in those games with more freedom and it’s refreshing to watch young players doing their best.


Agree about Martinelli, tom - and on the point of playing more attractive football, TG.

It's going to be a bit odd on Thursday. No tickets have been sold to the Germans for some offence they've committed, so the away section will be empty. However as we all know, they're a resourceful lot so there'll be no sales to Red members either. Anyone identified as a Frankfurt supporter will be denied entry or ejected and any Arser who sells tickets to them will have their membership cancelled.

Could be lively if they score.


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I also think he is working with a more talented squad than he had at Utd.


Not sure about that Darren. There are major structural problems with that Totts' squad - not the least being that three of their first choice back four are running down their contracts, as is their major creative talent.


Apparently part of his sales pitch to Levy was that he's been working on a new system of play with the French crowd for a number of months, Levy has bought into it. The 'structural problems' at Totts is the contract they gave to Kane, seems a lot of noses were put out of joint that they bust the wage cap for Kane and nobody else, hence the exodus.

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Not sure about that Darren. There are major structural problems with that Totts' squad - not the least being that three of their first choice back four are running down their contracts, as is their major creative talent.


Apparently part of his sales pitch to Levy was that he's been working on a new system of play with the French crowd for a number of months, Levy has bought into it. The 'structural problems' at Totts is the contract they gave to Kane, seems a lot of noses were put out of joint that they bust the wage cap for Kane and nobody else, hence the exodus.


There have certainly been rumours about Kane getting a massive pay hike that's created an enormous disparity between his contract and everyone else's. They've always been low payers and clearly, they're not prepared to raise the rest of the squad's salaries, hence the exodus. I can't see them resolving the impasse by throwing money at the problem - just not what they do.

What do you mean by "the French crowd" PG? Sounds intriguing.


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DHD wrote:
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Apparently part of his sales pitch to Levy was that he's been working on a new system of play with the French crowd for a number of months, Levy has bought into it. The 'structural problems' at Totts is the contract they gave to Kane, seems a lot of noses were put out of joint that they bust the wage cap for Kane and nobody else, hence the exodus.


There have certainly been rumours about Kane getting a massive pay hike that's created an enormous disparity between his contract and everyone else's. They've always been low payers and clearly, they're not prepared to raise the rest of the squad's salaries, hence the exodus. I can't see them resolving the impasse by throwing money at the problem - just not what they do.

What do you mean by "the French crowd" PG? Sounds intriguing.


The guys at Lille, he's been working with them for some time apparently.

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For a time I actually felt pity for Mourinho which I thought I wasn't capable of. A lot of the swagger has gone. He knows he talked too much trash. No manager stays on top forever. Ferguson had a down pariod in 2004 and 2005. And had to fight harder than ever to get the titles he did after that with Chelsea and then City getting money.

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Parkerknoll Gooner wrote:
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There have certainly been rumours about Kane getting a massive pay hike that's created an enormous disparity between his contract and everyone else's. They've always been low payers and clearly, they're not prepared to raise the rest of the squad's salaries, hence the exodus. I can't see them resolving the impasse by throwing money at the problem - just not what they do.

What do you mean by "the French crowd" PG? Sounds intriguing.


The guys at Lille, he's been working with them for some time apparently.


Seems he's just poached 2 Lille coaches for his backroom staff. It'll be interesting to see what new system they've evolved.


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I'm not worried about Mourinho at all. They might get a short term boost and they have a few easy fixtures to start with, but I don't see him taking them beyond the levels they achieved with Pochettino. The main reason for that is quite simply that I think Pochettino did a superb job and I can't see Mourinho surpassing that without some huge investment.

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Im angry at myself because I actually wish Jose well right now. I'm sure (or hoping) it will change by their kick off against West Ham. But I must be softening with age. May even one be tempted to go to the 'User Control Panel' on here and .... :42laughter:

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I recall asking who would get the boot first: Poch, Emery or OGS.
Now, between OGS and Emery, I'm going to go with OGS. He's in over his head.

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Im angry at myself because I actually wish Jose well right now. I'm sure (or hoping) it will change by their kick off against West Ham. But I must be softening with age. May even one be tempted to go to the 'User Control Panel' on here and .... :42laughter:

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Im angry at myself because I actually wish Jose well right now. I'm sure (or hoping) it will change by their kick off against West Ham. But I must be softening with age. May even one be tempted to go to the 'User Control Panel' on here and .... :42laughter:

Good idea - block yourself and spare yourself from having to read your own b%*&s%*^.

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https://arseblog.news/2019/11/emery-tor ... t-improve/

He must improve in a position he has not been picked in. Ok sure yeah coolcoolcool.

It's honestly mental. "Yeah he's got defensive attributes but I don't need any of those."

Does explain a lot. Just attack no defend. Bet he pulls up his pants before he wipes his arse too.

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Ash wrote:
https://arseblog.news/2019/11/emery-torreira-has-arsenal-future-but-he-must-improve/

He must improve in a position he has not been picked in. Ok sure yeah coolcoolcool.

It's honestly mental. "Yeah he's got defensive attributes but I don't need any of those."

Does explain a lot. Just attack no defend. Bet he pulls up his pants before he wipes his arse too.


And all these talk from a man who believes Xhaka is the man to do it for us. Idiot! Just get lost Emery!

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Getting back to the point: which reasonably reputable outlet manages to put a positive spin on Putin?

The Duran .... far and away the best , most informed unbiased news outfit on the planet .


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old man of hoy wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
f**** things up royally .
That phrase has a bit more meaning these days! Anyway, play this nice and loud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0mQ1ojc9PQ

:53big-emoticons: very good Old Man ... I remember that tune from when was it without googling mid 70s
thought it was OK but wasn't really over enamoured with it ...... but that version is primo ..... tons of grunt ... more ZZ Topish .


Have this in return https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGIE28q3fEA heard it on a blues CD I got at the Op Shop last week had a bit more grunt sounded like the Mark Keys " Last Night "


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Im angry at myself because I actually wish Jose well right now. I'm sure (or hoping) it will change by their kick off against West Ham. But I must be softening with age. May even one be tempted to go to the 'User Control Panel' on here and .... :42laughter:

Good idea - block yourself and spare yourself from having to read your own b%*&s%*^.


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Ash wrote:
https://arseblog.news/2019/11/emery-torreira-has-arsenal-future-but-he-must-improve/

He must improve in a position he has not been picked in. Ok sure yeah coolcoolcool.

It's honestly mental. "Yeah he's got defensive attributes but I don't need any of those."

Does explain a lot. Just attack no defend. Bet he pulls up his pants before he wipes his arse too.

That’s 2 bad media interviews from the UK this week. In the other the Queen thought her own son was talking bollocks and sacked him. Maybe they should do the same to Emery.

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Riley acknowledges 4 VAR mistakes including Sokratis goal against Palace.

Fall on your sword you useless ****.


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Ash wrote:
https://arseblog.news/2019/11/emery-torreira-has-arsenal-future-but-he-must-improve/

He must improve in a position he has not been picked in. Ok sure yeah coolcoolcool.

It's honestly mental. "Yeah he's got defensive attributes but I don't need any of those."

Does explain a lot. Just attack no defend. Bet he pulls up his pants before he wipes his arse too.

Emery is our Moyes with the added bonus of falling out with his players. He's disastrous.

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It feels like these managers that play high press, high intensity, running miles and miles football can only keep that up with the same set of players for a limited time. Players just can’t keep up that intensity seasonafter season. Either the manager moves on or you turn over the playing squad much more regularly.....or the manager changes tact
Even Liverpool aren’t playing anywhere near the intensity they did last season.

I’d love to experience a few seasons of that type of football though. At times, Liverpool, city and spurs have all adopted this high intensity football and it can swamp and blow away the opposition. And it is great to watch


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Back 3 again. Tierney and Bellerin wing backs.


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