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Post #513721  Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:07 am 
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The Gabriel Martinelli hype train has well and truly left the station.

He has had an amazing start to his Arsenal career, albeit against limited opposition, and I truly hope he is the next big thing in football but until we see him produce against top sides then it is far too early to label him the next Ronaldo or whatever. His blistering start is unsustainable so I hope that when the goals do dry up, as they will at some point, he is given time and space to breathe. He is only 18 after all.


I think he looks the real deal but it’s still too early to completely tell.

I remember Aliadere and Denílson looking amazing in some of their early games.

I recall an impressive game in the league cup for Aliadiere and the mirror next day printed a huge picture of him with “HENRY MARK 2” as the headline. Never really happened for him.


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Post #513722  Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:12 am 
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I wonder how Jose will go down with the Totts supporters who love to preach about the football they play?


They won’t care if they are winning.

To be honest whilst it seems a regressive move it wouldn’t shock me if Mourinho gets them playing and back in the top 4. He’ll get them tighter with the full backs not bombing forward unless they are behind and more compact away from home.

Spurs are 4/1 to finish in the top 4 with paddy power. A decent bet if your partial to a flutter

The key to us beating them is unleashing Torreira’s unfulfilled potential as a number 10 playmaker.


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Post #513723  Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:28 am 
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Now it feels weird to watch these teams like Liverpool,Leicester and Tottenham trying to improve themselves and proactively re inventing their set ups yet at Arsenal we are in a permanent state of stasis.

Despite any change of set up, injection of new players, change in tactics we can’t move forward and the hangover from Wengers reign still hangs over us.

Just seems our thinking is regressive and way behind. Emery and the board will rightly get both barrels if we lose one of our next three.

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There is likely to be fallouts from the Spurs team, come January. May their turmoil continue …………..

Sadly, ours is just as bad, if not worse. Wake up Emery!

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Post #513725  Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:58 am 
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I actually think the broadband thing is a very contemporary pledge. The internet has become vital for everyone and I think it’s right that everyone should have some kind of access.

I would love a Labour government but not the one currently managed by Corbyn, Milne, Murray, McCluskey. I think Momentum’s influence could have been a force for good but they’re overrun by ideologues. There appears to be an intolerance for moderates and those closer to the centre left. I find it really sad as someone whose politics are on the left.


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Customer: Yes I'd like broadband please?
BT: Of course comrade. Thanks to Comrade Corbyn this is now free. You are in the queue and will your broadband installed in 7 years time.
Customer: Er.....isn't that a long wait?
BT: Nonsense comrade! We are on a 4 day week with 3 months holidays so we are going as fast as we can. Power to the people!

Your concerns seem very odd to me.

Firstly, how can you contemplate not voting against the utter disaster that is Johnson?

Secondly voting Labour would hardly be turning power over to the hard left in perpetuity. Even in the unlikely even Labour did get in they wouldn't be able impose the dictatorship of the proletariat overnight, even if they did have a majority which seems far fetched.

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TH are 11 points off the top 4, effectively 12 points with their goal difference. If Mourinho manages to get them top 4 at the end of the season then fair play to him. Every point dropped just makes it harder. Ditto Arsenal, I don't realistically see us getting top 4 now, whoever is in charge. Around 70 points (based on last sesson) are required to get top 4. That's just over 2 points per game on average for ourselves to reach 70.


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The pic of Mourinho with a Tottenham shirt at his unveiling to the media. A humble, thoroughly likeable man finally gets the chance to fulfil a lifelong dream with a club he's always held closer to his heart than any other. How could you not love modern football?

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Post #513728  Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:25 pm 
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The pic of Mourinho with a Tottenham shirt at his unveiling to the media. A thoroughly likeable man finally gets the chance to fulfil a lifelong dream with a club he's always held closer to his heart than any other. How could you not love modern football?


He’s brought with him the cardboard cut out of himself he used to keep in his chelsea office.

He was destined to be Tottenham manager


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Post #513729  Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:50 pm 
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*Eriksson, Alderwierlad, Rose and Vertonghen? All their contracts are up I think??

Rose is up in 18 months, he's said he will leave on a bosman - and the other 3's inaction on their contracts would indicate the same. It will be interesting if a change in manager can convince any to extend their deal. Even if they give them a 1 year deal and a big bonus in order to protect their value but promise to sell them in the summer. It means the players could lose out on their contracts at their next club as the buying club will have to pay a fee.
Or do some of those players get sold in January for modest fees just to recoup something. I can see Eriksen being sold in Jan.
It is 4 big players to lose for free when you've just spent all your money on a £1billion stadium


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Post #513730  Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:05 pm 
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Personally, I'd be happy to take Poch at Arsenal, not that it would ever happen. At least his teams (at their best) play with a certain attacking style and tenacity.



I was about to pose this question. I would take Poch if Rodgers isn't available, when or if its time to sack Emery if he doesn't turn things around.

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Just imagine the stick Jose will get from Chelsea as well as us. He's not well liked. Also, it shows you just how low his stock has dropped. Jose used to be one of those coaches who would only go to the very best clubs. He fails here, he'll be a 2nd tier manager (the Dortmunds, Ajaxs, Sevillas of the world).

One of his biggest problems is keeping Kane, Alli, Rose and others. Players talk. They know about his reputation for belittling players. The word is out on him and it's not good.

Poch has had a tough run but truth is the league cup, arguably the easiest of the domestic cups, has become very difficult to win. In the last 6 years only 2 clubs outside the top 6 have gotten to the final. The FA cup fared better in terms of diversity but its still a very tough competition to win. Poch can be forgiven not to win a cup given the league as it stands now. Getting to the CL final is a massive achievement.

He won't stay out of work long.

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Post #513732  Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:25 pm 
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There are a few things about our near neighbours' current situation that don’t make immediate sense.
- Poch had 3.5 years left on a very expensive contract, as had his lieutenants. That is a positive shit-load of compensation – seriously un-sperzy!
- Mourinho runs on money – shit-loads of it for him and even more for his transfer habit – again, seriously un-sperz!
- Why wait until the second week of the interlull? If it were done, t’were best done last Monday.
- Poch has made it known that few if any of the club purchases in the close season were with his agreement. They weren’t cheap either. How does that happen?
- Mourinho is coming in as Chief Coach rather than a Manager so presumably, transfers will be outside of his remit as well. That sounds like a recipe for discontent from day one.
- Where the hell is Sessegnon? What about that lad they bought from Leeds – Clarke? - who was immediately loaned straight back but hasn’t since had a single game for them. Very odd.
- My sperz mates suggest that both Aldeweireld and Vertonghen have suddenly got old and injury prone together, hence the lack of interest in the transfer market – but they’re only 30 and 32?
- Why is nobody interested in Eriksen? By any standards, he’s a very decent player but even at a knock-down price, not a sniff. Why?

Not that I give the arse of a rat about any of the above, but odd things are happening at the lane that time forgot - the ground where I have seen us lift two (count them) league winning trophies!


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Also, it shows you just how low his stock has dropped. Jose used to be one of those coaches who would only go to the very best clubs. He fails here, he'll be a 2nd tier manager (the Dortmunds, Ajaxs, Sevillas of the world).

Can’t one say the exactly the same of Emery, who you keep supporting?


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There are a few things about our near neighbours' current situation that don’t make immediate sense.
- Poch had 3.5 years left on a very expensive contract, as had his lieutenants. That is a positive shit-load of compensation – seriously un-sperzy!
- Mourinho runs on money – shit-loads of it for him and even more for his transfer habit – again, seriously un-sperz!
- Why wait until the second week of the interlull? If it were done, t’were best done last Monday.
- Poch has made it known that few if any of the club purchases in the close season were with his agreement. They weren’t cheap either. How does that happen?
- Mourinho is coming in as Chief Coach rather than a Manager so presumably, transfers will be outside of his remit as well. That sounds like a recipe for discontent from day one.
- Where the hell is Sessegnon? What about that lad they bought from Leeds – Clarke? - who was immediately loaned straight back but hasn’t since had a single game for them. Very odd.
- My sperz mates suggest that both Aldeweireld and Vertonghen have suddenly got old and injury prone together, hence the lack of interest in the transfer market – but they’re only 30 and 32?
- Why is nobody interested in Eriksen? By any standards, he’s a very decent player but even at a knock-down price, not a sniff. Why?

Not that I give the arse of a rat about any of the above, but odd things are happening at the lane that time forgot - the ground where I have seen us lift two (count them) league winning trophies!


What’s that you say DHD?

You’ve seen us lift two (count them) league winning trophies at the Lane that time forgot? Two? The same number as the TOTAL number of league titles that they have won? Ever?

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Thinking of when I got my first shirt.

Thought I looked like Jon Sammels in it. No idea why.

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DHD wrote:
There are a few things about our near neighbours' current situation that don’t make immediate sense.
- Poch had 3.5 years left on a very expensive contract, as had his lieutenants. That is a positive shit-load of compensation – seriously un-sperzy!
- Mourinho runs on money – shit-loads of it for him and even more for his transfer habit – again, seriously un-sperz!
- Why wait until the second week of the interlull? If it were done, t’were best done last Monday.
- Poch has made it known that few if any of the club purchases in the close season were with his agreement. They weren’t cheap either. How does that happen?
- Mourinho is coming in as Chief Coach rather than a Manager so presumably, transfers will be outside of his remit as well. That sounds like a recipe for discontent from day one.
- Where the hell is Sessegnon? What about that lad they bought from Leeds – Clarke? - who was immediately loaned straight back but hasn’t since had a single game for them. Very odd.
- My sperz mates suggest that both Aldeweireld and Vertonghen have suddenly got old and injury prone together, hence the lack of interest in the transfer market – but they’re only 30 and 32?
- Why is nobody interested in Eriksen? By any standards, he’s a very decent player but even at a knock-down price, not a sniff. Why?

Not that I give the arse of a rat about any of the above, but odd things are happening at the lane that time forgot - the ground where I have seen us lift two (count them) league winning trophies!


With regards to the money they have to pay out, I'd also add Mourinho doesn't come cheap. I wonder if they approached Wenger just to take the piss? Sperz moving into a new stadium, etc, and its traditional wisdom money is tight the first few years.
I'd take a chance on Vertonghen if he came cheap. I'd rather us spend big on CBs but if we won't, then he's not too bad.
To be fair to Mourinho, he has managed a team with a budget successfully (Porto) but its been so long, I'm not sure he can recreate the magic.

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What’s that you say DHD?

You’ve seen us lift two (count them) league winning trophies at the Lane that time forgot? Two? The same number as the TOTAL number of league titles that they have won? Ever?


To be absolutely fair to our imbecile neighbours, they have a pretty impressive array of other major silverware. See below if you don't believe. They have been (joint) winners of The Ipswich Hospital Charity Cup - oh yes. One can only guess at the opposition in the Costa Del Sol Tournament - but a trophy is a trophy and must NOT be sniffed at.

Southern League Champions: 1899/1900
Western League Champions: 1903/1904
London League Premier Division Champions: 1902/1903
Football League South 'C' Division Champions: 1939/1940
Football League South Champions: 1943/1944, 1944/1945
Southern District Charity Cup Winners: 1901/1902, 1904/1905 (joint), 1906/1907
Dewar Shield Winners: 1901/1902, 1933/1934
London Challenge Cup Winners: 1910/1911, 1928/1929
Anglo-Italian League Cup-Winners Cup Winners: 1971/1972
Norwich Charity Cup Winners: 1919/1920
Norwich Hospital Charity Cup Winners: 1946/1947, 1949/1950 (joint)
Ipswich Hospital Charity Cup Winners: 1951/1952 (joint)
Costa Del Sol Tournament Winners: 1965, 1966
Nolia Cup (Sweden) Winners: 1977
Japan Cup Winners: 1979
Sun International Challenge Trophy (Swaziland) Winners: 1983
Peace Cup (Korea) Winners: 2005
Vodacom Challenge (South Africa) Winners: 2007
Feyenoord Jubileum Tournament (Holland) Winners: 2008
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Maureen at Spurs - don't mind admitting it's got me a little worried. Please God it doesn't go well, because if it does we're in for a lot of pain.


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Thank you Levy - in one go you have reminded us all of the lack of class at Tottenham, but more importantly have ensured that turd Mourinho will not be deposited in our part of North London.

As for Poch, yes it would be very droll to have him at Arsenal, but let the head rule the heart so that we can find an experienced manager who has won some big trophies.

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Maureen at Spurs - don't mind admitting it's got me a little worried. Please God it doesn't go well, because if it does we're in for a lot of pain.
He'll very likely win them a trophy ,and then it will end in tears, as it often does with him.
As Martial wrote, a skunk must be itself.

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Maureen at Spurs - don't mind admitting it's got me a little worried. Please God it doesn't go well, because if it does we're in for a lot of pain.
He'll very likely win them a trophy ,and then it will end in tears, as it often does with him.
As Martial wrote, a skunk must be itself.

I have to say that I was just relieved that he would not be coming to us.

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Thank you Levy - in one go you have reminded us all of the lack of class at Tottenham, but more importantly have ensured that turd Mourinho will not be deposited in our part of North London.

As for Poch, yes it would be very droll to have him at Arsenal, but let the head rule the heart so that we can find an experienced manager who has won some big trophies.


What "experienced manager who has won some big trophies" would come to a club that has such limited ambition?.

I'd take Eddie Howe right now because if people think we're getting the likes of Allegri, Nagelsmann or Ten Haag then I think they are in lala land.

Anyway, Kroenke OUT.

What else is there to add?.

Boring, boring Arsenal.

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The Arsenal is only attractive to a manager who has ambitions of adding a top 6 club to his CV. Agree that Allegri and company wouldn't come to us unless their money is running low and need a stop gap job.

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The Arsenal is only attractive to a manager who has ambitions of adding a top 6 club to his CV.

Ya know, maybe I could do it then ?

I would love to add a top 6 club to my CV and I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA how to run an English football team.

Surely I'd be a shoe-in for the job, or perhaps I'm over qualified ?


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Get em out. A microcosm of Brexit thinking


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Thank you Levy - in one go you have reminded us all of the lack of class at Tottenham, but more importantly have ensured that turd Mourinho will not be deposited in our part of North London.

As for Poch, yes it would be very droll to have him at Arsenal, but let the head rule the heart so that we can find an experienced manager who has won some big trophies.

I agree completely on Mourinho.

However, I think Poch would be ideal for Arsenal. The fact that he hasn't actually won anything with Spurs really doesn't matter. He knows the PL and he knows how to get a team to play effective and attractive football. He'd be very hungry to prove the lad from the lane wrong. He's also not an a****** which still means something!

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Finally, will get to see Arsenal play again. Will Emery change it into a more exciting play? Please make some changes because it is getting so boring with the slow-mo and toothless attacking plays. You have had 2 weeks to reflect, review the opposition, review the strengths of your players, and finally, to suss out any stupidity of your tactical thinking (hint: playing out of our own area).

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I think Mourinho will be successful for Spurs, from now till end of season. He is just that type of manager who is able to make things happen. He will become the disruptive manager again if Spurs does not give him his toys for the following season.

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Thank you Levy - in one go you have reminded us all of the lack of class at Tottenham, but more importantly have ensured that turd Mourinho will not be deposited in our part of North London.

As for Poch, yes it would be very droll to have him at Arsenal, but let the head rule the heart so that we can find an experienced manager who has won some big trophies.


What "experienced manager who has won some big trophies" would come to a club that has such limited ambition?.

I'd take Eddie Howe right now because if people think we're getting the likes of Allegri, Nagelsmann or Ten Haag then I think they are in lala land.

Anyway, Kroenke OUT.

What else is there to add?.

Boring, boring Arsenal.
You might just be surprised how attractive a club Arsenal are to football people. Fans tend to accentuate the negative, but I would never assume football managers would be in line with that thinking. When Emery leaves there will be quite a long queue of experienced men willing to take over. In many respects it will be easier to come in after Dick than it was for Dick having to fill Arsene's shoes.

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old man of hoy wrote:
Thank you Levy - in one go you have reminded us all of the lack of class at Tottenham, but more importantly have ensured that turd Mourinho will not be deposited in our part of North London.

As for Poch, yes it would be very droll to have him at Arsenal, but let the head rule the heart so that we can find an experienced manager who has won some big trophies.

I agree completely on Mourinho.

However, I think Poch would be ideal for Arsenal. The fact that he hasn't actually won anything with Spurs really doesn't matter. He knows the PL and he knows how to get a team to play effective and attractive football. He'd be very hungry to prove the lad from the lane wrong. He's also not an a****** which still means something!
Yes, from what we know of him I do like Poch as a man, and judging by the comments made by some of his former players, he clearly has their respect. However, Spurs to Arsenal would be a massive challenge for him. The fans would put him on an even shorter rope than Dick, so he would have to deliver the goods quickly, or planes would be flying.

Ancelotti for me, and a few of his Napoli guys.

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:laughing7: while the BBC , CNN , NSBC , CBS , Huffington Post clearly are ...?

BBC isn’t bad and CNN is quite good

Fox is a cartoon for thick people. Watch the loudest voice with Russell Crowe and you’ll see the difference

There is a difference between having a strong perspective (Rachel Maddow for example) and doing what the Republicans and Fox are doing which is ignoring anything that doesn't fit their narrative or calling it fake news.

Yesterday was a case in point. During the hearing Devin Nunes was shouting that CNN was fake news and had put up a headline that was misrepresenting what was happening. If you look at what CNN is saying you find this is not the case at all. There is a diversity of views about how damning Sondland's testimony was.

The fake news narrative and the lazy denigration of NYT, WsPo, CNN, al-Jazeera, etc. is completely irresponsible.

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old man of hoy wrote:
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I agree completely on Mourinho.

However, I think Poch would be ideal for Arsenal. The fact that he hasn't actually won anything with Spurs really doesn't matter. He knows the PL and he knows how to get a team to play effective and attractive football. He'd be very hungry to prove the lad from the lane wrong. He's also not an a****** which still means something!
Yes, from what we know of him I do like Poch as a man, and judging by the comments made by some of his former players, he clearly has their respect. However, Spurs to Arsenal would be a massive challenge for him. The fans would put him on an even shorter rope than Dick, so he would have to deliver the goods quickly, or planes would be flying.

Ancelotti for me, and a few of his Napoli guys.


Don't think it would happen but Poch to Arse us would be fantastic. Could be another SC23 "signing".


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I think Mourinho will be successful for Spurs, from now till end of season. He is just that type of manager who is able to make things happen. He will become the disruptive manager again if Spurs does not give him his toys for the following season.


I have a bad feeling Mourinho will enjoy success at Spurs. Expectations quite different from MU and RM and even Chelsea - he doesn't have to win the league with Spurs, and he's capable of winning them a few cups and top 4 finishes.


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Ancelotti for me, and a few of his Napoli guys.


Heard some interesting gossip this morning about the process that lead to Mourinho getting the job. Apparently he contacted Levy around three weeks ago, and pretty much followed up daily, pitching a new philosophy on how the game should be played. He also had to make assurances that he would not revert to type with regard to his more negative brand of football.

Seems he wasn’t first choice as they went after Rogers, but seems he refused to take their calls. Howe and Ancelotti were also on the list but it was felt Howe would need 2 or 3 seasons to make things happen. Ancelotti was beaten to the punch by Mourinho, Levy is desperate for a trophy, any trophy, and the Portugeezer seemed the sure thing.

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Ancelotti for me, and a few of his Napoli guys.


Heard some interesting gossip this morning about the process that lead to Mourinho getting the job. Apparently he contacted Levy around three weeks ago, and pretty much followed up daily, pitching a new philosophy on how the game should be played. He also had to make assurances that he would not revert to type with regard to his more negative brand of football.

Seems he wasn’t first choice as they went after Rogers, but seems he refused to take their calls. Howe and Ancelotti were also on the list but it was felt Howe would need 2 or 3 seasons to make things happen. Ancelotti was beaten to the punch by Mourinho, Levy is desperate for a trophy, any trophy, and the Portugeezer seemed the sure thing.
Yes, with Mourinho in charge you have to fancy Spurs in the cups. He is very good at focusing his team on ties. Get the right draw and you can go a long way in the ECL. Seems like we often got Barca or Bayern - avoid them and you can go all the way.

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Parkerknoll Gooner wrote:

Heard some interesting gossip this morning about the process that lead to Mourinho getting the job. Apparently he contacted Levy around three weeks ago, and pretty much followed up daily, pitching a new philosophy on how the game should be played. He also had to make assurances that he would not revert to type with regard to his more negative brand of football.

Seems he wasn’t first choice as they went after Rogers, but seems he refused to take their calls. Howe and Ancelotti were also on the list but it was felt Howe would need 2 or 3 seasons to make things happen. Ancelotti was beaten to the punch by Mourinho, Levy is desperate for a trophy, any trophy, and the Portugeezer seemed the sure thing.


A leopard does not change its spots. If Jose fails to land a trophy the fingers will be pointed at Levy.

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You might just be surprised how attractive a club Arsenal are to football people. Fans tend to accentuate the negative, but I would never assume football managers would be in line with that thinking. When Emery leaves there will be quite a long queue of experienced men willing to take over. In many respects it will be easier to come in after Dick than it was for Dick having to fill Arsene's shoes.


So you think we'll get the likes of Allegri, Ten Haag or Nagelsmann?, even they haven't really won 'big' trophies, we will be in the Europa again next season and given we blew a load of future transfer money this summer I can't see the appeal when it is clear the owner wont budge (in any respect), I expect us to be outspent by the majority of top 10 clubs in the league over the next few transfer windows.

No top manager is going to be interested in our tiresome and dreary project, we just have a negative owner. Anyway I've repeated myself enough here, sabatical time from Arsenal for me, might get semi interested again if Emery goes, then again might not, a bit like Kroenke I am just totally apathetic now, exactly what KSE deserve - an empty stadium next hopefully.

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Seems he wasn’t first choice as they went after Rogers, but seems he refused to take their calls. Howe and Ancelotti were also on the list but it was felt Howe would need 2 or 3 seasons to make things happen. Ancelotti was beaten to the punch by Mourinho, Levy is desperate for a trophy, any trophy, and the Portugeezer seemed the sure thing.

Any news on why Rodgers wasn’t interested? Don’t suppose it was him expecting to take over at the other North London club (obviously excluding Barnet)?

I can understand people’s concerns at Mourinho winning a trophy in his first year or two at our near neighbours (for those not up on North London geography, Tottenham is a closer place than Barnet). It’s what Mourinho does in his first couple of years. I can thus promise I’ll be even more pleased when Tottenham lose cup games, especially knock out ties, over the next year or two.


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So you think we'll get the likes of Allegri, Ten Haag or Nagelsmann?, even they haven't really won 'big' trophies, we will be in the Europa again next season and given we blew a load of future transfer money this summer I can't see the appeal when it is clear the owner wont budge (in any respect), I expect us to be outspent by the majority of top 10 clubs in the league over the next few transfer windows.

No top manager is going to be interested in our tiresome and dreary project, we just have a negative owner. Anyway I've repeated myself enough here, sabatical time from Arsenal for me, might get semi interested again if Emery goes, then again might not, a bit like Kroenke I am just totally apathetic now, exactly what KSE deserve - an empty stadium next hopefully.

Hi Wilts. Look, I basically think the same of Kroenke as you and unlike some other critics of the KSE ownership regime, I’m far more suspicious of Josh than those who hope things will change radically when Stan pegs it. What’s the evidence? He goes to more games than Stan, I realise that. Sorry but he needs to do a lot more than that to convince me. His comments are very supportive of his father’s ownership regime. Sure, I wouldn’t expect him to say anything else. But I wouldn’t mind a comment or two to cling to at least some hope things could change.

However, I think Arsenal would still be able to get fine managers. Allegri is unemployed, Ten Haag is at Ajax and Nagelsmann is at Leipzig. I reckon all three at this point in their careers would jump at the chance of joining Arsenal, as would Mourinho have done.


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“My objective is going to be his comeback, to help us and convince every supporter of his commitment to us and [that] his performances will be better, and they will be proud of him in the short or long future with us,” Emery said.

Words, words, words ....... too many times, but yet you get the same old Xhaka

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