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Post #513481  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:56 pm 
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wonderful pick out from bellerin but lacazette heads straight at the gk. Need to get this 2nd goal because Leicester are not out of this


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Post #513482  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:05 pm 
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Ceballos has run the game. Not just his passing, his press and turnover of possession must be very high as well


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Post #513483  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:14 pm 
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Gosh we look a different team. We’ve had about three really presentable. chances, I felt like we needed the second goal before halftime, but I wonder if maybe we’re maturing into a team you think could actually keep a clean sheet.

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Post #513484  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:16 pm 
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I think we can say that Arteta has by and large improved virtually every player in the squad. That’s impressive.

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Post #513485  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:21 pm 
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Ash wrote:
Gosh we look a different team. We’ve had about three really presentable. chances, I felt like we needed the second goal before halftime, but I wonder if maybe we’re maturing into a team you think could actually keep a clean sheet.

I think I read Arsenal have 10 clean sheets in Arteta's 21 games in charge. If you can keep clean sheets in 50% of your games you're on for conceding somewhere under 30 goals in a season, something we almost certainly haven't done since 2004 I'd guess


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Post #513486  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:29 pm 
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Vardy chasing a long ball he's never going to get just pushes over Tierney in frustration, I assume at Tierney doing his job and not giving Vardy a clear run at it.


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Post #513487  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:31 pm 
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Another good save from Martinez whilst Arsenal were down to 10 because Mustafi took a knock


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Post #513488  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:33 pm 
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That should be a clear yellow. Tierney would have been in for the pass down the wing, just blocked off. We've taken yellows for such blatant fouls like that all season


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Post #513489  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:34 pm 
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VAR must have seen that assault on Mustafi. Why wasn't a pen given?


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Post #513490  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:44 pm 
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goal disallowed for lacazette, half a foot offside from a flick from a corner


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Post #513491  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:45 pm 
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VAR must have seen that assault on Mustafi. Why wasn't a pen given?

One of those stupid ones that if Mustafi goes up and wins that header in his own box and a striker backs in to him he wins the free kick every time.
Refs know that is a nothing call that is instantly forgotten by everyone. They don't want to give them as penalties though


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Post #513492  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:50 pm 
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Checking a red card for Nketiah. Its ridiculous, he's not even going for the tackle, he's trying to control the ball and just catches the man

Red card confirmed - pathetic


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That’s bollocks.


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Post #513494  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:51 pm 
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That’s a ridiculous red card

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Post #513495  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:52 pm 
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Bollocks but it was reckless .....................


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Post #513496  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:52 pm 
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It’s simply a yellow. Rash but no intent to hurt.

Was trying to Nick it. *%^@*** ridiculous


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It’s simply a yellow. Rash but no intent to hurt.

Was trying to Nick it. *%^@*** ridiculous

When you see the kickings Pépé has taken this season to get a red for that is a joke


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Vardy goal checking with VAR

vardy looked offside from the original cross but VAR is looking at whether there was a second touch rather than the original

screwed again by VAR screwed again by the ref


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Post #513499  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:04 pm 
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This season has been an absolute horror show for us with VAR and ref calls.

the amount of fouls, yellows,reds that we get and the opposition dont.
good goal v palace not given
clear red for a chelsea player not given when we lead 1-0
clear penalty not given when leading 1-0 at home to sheff utd
and now today

It's awful


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Game has been turned on its head by a ref who has no idea what an honest attempt to control a ball is. Fuming by that call still


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Again no yellows for leicester players clearly dragging and blocking arsenal players - how have they not got a single booking today?


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I think this ref has been pretty good tonight. His initial view was a yellow. I’d agree.

Play it back 50 times and watch it for 3 mins without a clear decision then ask him to look again. No pressure on him.


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Post #513503  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:11 pm 
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My main problem with the reds and penalties we get and concede is you simply do not see the same rules applied for us.
The stats bear this out Arsenal 4 fouls per yellow card. Leicester 14 fouls per yellow card. It is a huge sample panel across the whole season


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I think this ref has been pretty good tonight. His initial view was a yellow. I’d agree.

Play it back 50 times and watch it for 3 mins without a clear decision then ask him to look again. No pressure on him.

It’s 100% this

Surely if it’s a red it has to be obvious

They played the replay 50 odd times. How can you give it ? You can’t reach a conclusion so if in doubt now the player has to go.


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DHD wrote:
I think this ref has been pretty good tonight. His initial view was a yellow. I’d agree.

Play it back 50 times and watch it for 3 mins without a clear decision then ask him to look again. No pressure on him.

and play it at full speed only on a replay. then you'll see that Nketiah is trying to control a bouncing ball and has no time at all to realise the defender is there


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DHD wrote:
I think this ref has been pretty good tonight. His initial view was a yellow. I’d agree.

Play it back 50 times and watch it for 3 mins without a clear decision then ask him to look again. No pressure on him.


Exactly. If VAR can’t decide original decision of the ref should stand.

Ridiculous

Mind you, we should have been out of sight at half time - some poor finishing

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those 2 points could be costly for us at the end of the season if we want a Europa spot.

Utterly ridiculous that Nketiah gets 3 game ban for that


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john1 wrote:
DHD wrote:
I think this ref has been pretty good tonight. His initial view was a yellow. I’d agree.

Play it back 50 times and watch it for 3 mins without a clear decision then ask him to look again. No pressure on him.


Exactly. If VAR can’t decide original decision of the ref should stand.

Ridiculous

Mind you, we should have been out of sight at half time - some poor finishing

Their gk made some good saves. At the time of the red 1-0 felt about right because Leicester were playing ok. Red totally changes it


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TOP GUN wrote:
DHD wrote:
I think this ref has been pretty good tonight. His initial view was a yellow. I’d agree.

Play it back 50 times and watch it for 3 mins without a clear decision then ask him to look again. No pressure on him.

It’s 100% this

Surely if it’s a red it has to be obvious

They played the replay 50 odd times. How can you give it ? You can’t reach a conclusion so if in doubt now the player has to go.

Worse than that, the ref only looked at a replay from 1 angle and then took out the red. What did he think the VAR guys were reviewing? We've been shafted here.

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dec wrote:
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It’s 100% this

Surely if it’s a red it has to be obvious

They played the replay 50 odd times. How can you give it ? You can’t reach a conclusion so if in doubt now the player has to go.

Worse than that, the ref only looked at a replay from 1 angle and then took out the red. What did he think the VAR guys were reviewing? We've been shafted here.


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Thought that was a clear red - comes in with a straight leg, studs up and hits right below the knee. Intent doesn't matter there, it's serious foul play any day of the week. Didn't look like Vardy was offside, maybe if Perez touches the ball but that was impossible to see after 15 replays.

This wasn't on the ref or VAR. We dropped points because we didn't finish them off in the first half and our second wasn't good enough. It's a shame but we're still making excellent progress as a team and seem to be on the right track.


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Post #513512  Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:28 pm 
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Oh *%^@ off redknapp it’s not a red

Wouldn’t expect any less from that thicko Ashley though. Can barely speak without the help of others. How the *%^@ he coped abroad I don’t know


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I’d rather watch a live sex show starring my grandparents than watch Ashley Cole as a pundit.

What the hell goes through these broadcasters heads when they arrange their scheduling.


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I'm with Hazuki on the red card. Even though there was no ill intent, Nketiah lunges in studs up and catches the bloke just below the knee so it has to be a red. I thought we were very impressive first half but we needed another goal as Leicester had threatened enough to show they were well in the game. Second half Leicester went up a gear and we went down one, but after the red card we were just holding on and they inevitably scored. Perhaps the disappointment we are all feeling after a battling draw is evidence of the improvement weve made under Arteta.


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Think Sky pundits Redknapp and Cole miss the point of Vardy's goal. They slate Mustafi for not beating Vardy to the ball. Mustafi pushes up to hold the defensive line, its a good ball in, a great ball in, and one of the fastest forwards in the league is quicker over 5 yards than Mustafi - that's it. Were they slating the Leicester defence for not keeping up with Aubamayang when he tapped in the first half, should Leicester defence tracked the run and stayed goal side? Sometimes it is just good forward play

At half time Redknapp told us Evans was 'unlucky' when Saka turned him inside out for the first goal. Can you imagine if Luiz had been sat down like that for a Leicester goal.

Pundits have already made up their mind that certain players are liabilities and must be found at fault for goals, whereas others get a free ride


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On reflection, their player made nothing of Eddie’s challenge. He certainly could have. If he’d rolled round for 5 minutes, most minds would’ve been made up a lot quicker.


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Loved that interview from Arteta. Bang on. Then back to Redknapp to deny Vardy did it on purpose (which of course he *%^@*** did)


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Why couldn't we get on top in the second half?


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Loved that interview from Arteta. Bang on. Then back to Redknapp to deny Vardy did it on purpose (which of course he *%^@*** did)

I thought at the time that Vardy took it as a bit of a free hit opportunity to swing a flailing leg round as he was falling.
If you take the position that Vardy’s boot flying in to Mustafi’s face was unintentional and and accident, you have to take the same view with Nketiah. Both ‘could’ have caused serious injury, both are dangerous but really neither are red cards. But Arteta is right to point out the absurdity of Nketiah’s red.


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Disappointing. The red card obviously changed the game but I do think we missed some really good chances in the 1st half then took our foot off the pedal too much in the second half and Mustafi and Bellerin were caught ball watching for the Vardy goal.

I think we saw some positives tonight but also some of our limitations as well. Tierney,and Ceballos and Martinez were excellent but as soon as we went down to 10 men I thought Xhaka's lack of mobility was an issue, he simply can't get round the pitch quickly enough to cope with the extra man and it left us more exposed than perhaps we might have been with a more athletic player in there.

For me Mustafi and Xhaka have been very good since Arteta's arrival but I just don't think they are at the level to take us where we would like to be. If i was Arteta I'd move them both on and buy a better CB and a more mobile DM.


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