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Post #510641  Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:08 am 
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We had a good 45 mins v spurs in the second half but if Kane’s shot goes in instead of hitting the post at 2-1 we lose that game.

Nah, we were good for the whole match against Tottenham. I think people's judgement of that game is skewed because of the ridiculous goals we gifted them, we bossed the midfield throughout the entire game and actually looked consistently threatening. Something we didn't do against Burnley, Newcastle or Watford.

But to be honest, at this point I wouldn't change the starting eleven much if anything at all. Don't think we're going to find any sort of rhythm by changing our formation and lineup every game.


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Post #510642  Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:15 am 
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I think Emery who won the Europa cup three times in a row is capable of better than this, as is this squad of players.

The best starts to the season I remember were when we we pre seasoned in Austria. Everyone would tip Arsenal to drop out of the top four and we’d start the season like the proverbial well-oiled machine and by the time the wheels fell off in Feb-March we’d already built a decent points total and had loads of momentum.

Particularly compared to that I think we’re still ridiculously unsettled. Both first choice full backs and arguably a starting or a least supporting CB are out and only now looking to slowly integrate over the next couple of months. Pépé has had no preseason with us at all. Torreria came back so late he’s not been an option. The young players are clearly going to need a lot of support and time and even if they do start well like Willock we know from experience that tends to dry up and they shouldn’t be first choice.

It’s as far away from a fairly settled team with a settled philosophy having a smooth preseason as you could get.

My prediction was that we’d be a bit ropey at points but we’d muddle through at just below par (so on course for 5th/6th I suppose) until Christmas, then after the new year when Pépé’s settled, Holding Bellerin and Tierney have had a few games and Emery decides what we’re doing and we’ve given the young players some Europa experience we’d start to motor as a team. But it’d be too late to be anywhere near the top two and we’d be fourth maybe third depending on how much Chelsea Utd and Spurs struggle. My hope was third.

What I didn’t count on was this interminable *%^@ up and getting the balance of the team and tactics SO badly wrong. You can cope with muddling along and it’s a decent platform to improve. If it all implodes and recriminations start and Xhaka keeps saying we’re scared and we keep playing out from the back we’ll have no platform to kick on in Jan. If the club as a whole (looking at Edu and Sanlehi maybe) can keep their heads we should still make top four.

It feels like the equivalent of a boxer who if he can just survive the first round could go on to win on points.

Also you know when you hear something and you go “Yeah that feels right” Vieira to take over at the end of the season?

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Post #510643  Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:02 am 
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I think we should pay tribute to Frank Lampards tactical nouse. Facing a transfer ban he has proved himself capable of neutralising one of the rival clubs for the top 4, and getting them to pay 8mil in the process.

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Post #510644  Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:46 am 
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We look decent but not great.

Sadly this is the bit where we differ. I can’t think of any performance this season that I’d describe as decent. The tactics, shape, structure and quality of much of our play is well below decent. We look a bit like an under nines team. Or as Graeme Souness summed it up - a semi pro team.

I really wish that it wasn’t that way. And we are regressing rather than progressing.


Fair point and I would say our views depend on what greater context you view our side with. I view it our side presently as XI players, many of whom in vital positions (play making center mid for example as in Ceballos) that have never played together competitively and had to contend with Liverpool and Tottenham in its first 4 matches, as well as play away to a very tough ground like St. James Park.

Do we have a settled XI? Özil hasn't started for weeks and this was his first start. Pépé is still figuring out the language much less the country, culture, team, league.
Until Sunday, I'd say we had as good of a start as we could expect. We won against the sides below us. We drew against Tottenham who have a much better side than we do and we showed some testicular fortitude coming back. Losing to Liverpool away these days is no crime. Losing "only" 3-1, isn't either when we have lost to much worse Liverpool sides by a much bigger scoreline.

Not sure what we are all expecting this season at this point. Yes, we had a great transfer period, now we have to incorporate those players as well as wait on injured players like Bellerin and Tierney.

Again, do we even know what our first choice XI are? And even if anyone can answer that, they have to include Bellerin and Tierney who are out. No crime being frustrated and angry. I am. Trust me, I was dropping as many F bombs at the TV screen as I did on my trolls a half a decade or so ago (wow, its been that long? :icon_mrgreen: ) but after my tirade and I took a xanax and a glass of New Zealand wine ( :icon_mrgreen: ) logic and reason returned and I saw us in our proper place. A 2nd tier premier league club, on the cusp of first tier, in the midst of a transition.

We scored twice within :30 minutes away at grounds that is not easy to do so. Many fans are overlooking that. We aren't going to be famous for clean sheets ala 2004 Chelsea are we? Given how weak we are defensively. Watford was bound to score at least once. I don't think we can say with much confidence we can keep a clean sheet against at least 3/4 of the clubs in the league at a bare minimum. That's the state of things, its a known defect we have and until that is sorted, we will just have to live with that fact.

The calls for Emery to be sacked I see on the comments section online are..hmmm...what's that Brit word again? "Barmy" I think it is. :icon_mrgreen: We aren't going to sack him and bring in Zidane or Allegri fellas. We are going to get top club failures at best (Sarri, etc, ) We aren't at the point where we are hiring PL journeman managers like fat Sam, Warnock, Bruce or Coleman but we aren't going to get Pep to leave either. I am not even sure Mourinho would take the reigns if offered. Maybe but I wouldn't be shocked if he declined (not that I would want him).

Put it this way, I'd much rather be in our position, than Chelsea for example...they are in decline, we are building, slowly, but surely. I doubt Lamps can turn that around as well as OGS at Man Utd. Poch will have to deliver something soon as well.

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Post #510645  Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:59 am 
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So the upcoming EPL remembering we haven't won in the last 3 games.
Aston Villa, Man U, Bournemouth, Sheffield Utd

IMO we must get 3 wins and at worst a draw versus Utd. I see no reason why we should not beat Utd but lets say we only get a draw I could live with it. Therefore 10/12 points.

Europa League - first 3 games must have 7 points with a draw at Frankfurt

League Cup must beat Forest.

Anything less and Emery should go.

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Post #510646  Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:57 pm 
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Got bored with looking up more scathing reports and mused on what could be the best formation to get the required balance.

Was thinking a 4-2-1-3 seems to be the closest fit for the players we have.

but a 4-2-3-1 would provide more options to get out of the back and more cover in midfield.

Maybe a shift between the 2 depending on what's happening on the pitch as the adjustment doesn't require wholesale positional change.

About the best and most positive I can think of at the moment. :)


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Post #510647  Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:48 pm 
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Not sure what we are all expecting this season at this point.

How about feeling at least reasonably confident of hanging on to a two goal lead against the bottom club in the division?

Even the best teams throw away leads. The problem is it is no longer a surprise when we do.

And the 'team in transition' excuse is wearing very thin too.

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Post #510648  Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:58 pm 
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Watford was bound to score at least once. I don't think we can say with much confidence we can keep a clean sheet against at least 3/4 of the clubs in the league at a bare minimum. That's the state of things, its a known defect we have and until that is sorted, we will just have to live with that fact.

That's a very strange defense!

I am not calling for Emery to be sacked. I'm calling for him to remove his head from his culo and figure out how to get clean sheets away from home.

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Post #510649  Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:34 pm 
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Headline: arsenal players fed up and confused by Emery’s repetitive training

If emery keeps getting us to train at the same thing we should see some improvement in whatever that thing is. Or are the players unable, unwilling to play how emery wants. Or is the way emery wants us to play completely flawed.
Or all of the above!


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I read some people saying that they view emery as the manager simply tasked with keeping the seat warm whilst we undergo a complete change in playing staff and restructure of the club.
2 of the 3 men who hired emery are no longer at the club. It seems that 90% if transfer business has been taken away from the manager.


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I hope we retain Emery and involve him in the transfers. It seems crazy to me when you have clubs with a sporting director that gets players with no input from the manager. A few American professional teams do that. We call that position "General Manager".

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Rich wrote:
I read some people saying that they view emery as the manager simply tasked with keeping the seat warm whilst we undergo a complete change in playing staff and restructure of the club.
2 of the 3 men who hired emery are no longer at the club. It seems that 90% if transfer business has been taken away from the manager.

Hi Rich, Gazidis is obviously one of the men who hired him. Who is the other one who has left? It’s probably me forgetting who else was in the hierarchy at the time because I very much doubt Mislintat was involved in the appointment. This stuff about Emery keeping the seat warm while the overhaul in playing staff and restructuring takes place sounds to me a bit like ITKs who in reality are really NITKs (not in the know).

I still think the length of Emery’s time in post will be driven by whether Arsenal qualify for next season’s Champions League. If we do, whether through a top four place or winning the Europa League, I reckon he’ll keep his job for 2020/21. If we don’t, I believe Emery will get his P45 and be replaced. I’ll be surprised if that single issue isn’t by far the most decisive factor,


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I read some people saying that they view emery as the manager simply tasked with keeping the seat warm whilst we undergo a complete change in playing staff and restructure of the club.
2 of the 3 men who hired emery are no longer at the club. It seems that 90% if transfer business has been taken away from the manager.

Hi Rich, Gazidis is obviously one of the men who hired him. Who is the other one who has left? It’s probably me forgetting who else was in the hierarchy at the time because I very much doubt Mislintat was involved in the appointment. This stuff about Emery keeping the seat warm while the overhaul in playing staff and restructuring takes place sounds to me a bit like ITKs who in reality are really NITKs (not in the know).

I still think the length of Emery’s time in post will be driven by whether Arsenal qualify for next season’s Champions League. If we do, whether through a top four place or winning the Europa League, I reckon he’ll keep his job for 2020/21. If we don’t, I believe Emery will get his P45 and be replaced. I’ll be surprised if that single issue isn’t by far the most decisive factor,

It was Mislantat, Bernard out of the 3. Raul is only one left from that panel. Raul wanted Luis Enrique, not Emery, but ultimately it was Ivan' G's decision as noted from this quote...

"Unai has an outstanding track record of success throughout his career, has developed some of the best young talent in Europe and plays an exciting, progressive style of football that fits Arsenal perfectly," Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis said. "His hard-working and passionate approach and his sense of values on and off the pitch make him the ideal person to take us forward."

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Hi Rich, Gazidis is obviously one of the men who hired him. Who is the other one who has left? It’s probably me forgetting who else was in the hierarchy at the time because I very much doubt Mislintat was involved in the appointment. This stuff about Emery keeping the seat warm while the overhaul in playing staff and restructuring takes place sounds to me a bit like ITKs who in reality are really NITKs (not in the know).

I still think the length of Emery’s time in post will be driven by whether Arsenal qualify for next season’s Champions League. If we do, whether through a top four place or winning the Europa League, I reckon he’ll keep his job for 2020/21. If we don’t, I believe Emery will get his P45 and be replaced. I’ll be surprised if that single issue isn’t by far the most decisive factor,

It was Mislantat, Bernard out of the 3. Raul is only one left from that panel. Raul wanted Luis Enrique, not Emery, but ultimately it was Ivan' G's decision as noted from this quote...

"Unai has an outstanding track record of success throughout his career, has developed some of the best young talent in Europe and plays an exciting, progressive style of football that fits Arsenal perfectly," Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis said. "His hard-working and passionate approach and his sense of values on and off the pitch make him the ideal person to take us forward."

Okay, I stand corrected. I had always assumed Mislintat’s job focussed on the recruitment of players, not the head coach.


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Results in CL today were pretty good. If other clubs fighting for top 4 have to stretch their squad for the group stages all the better for us

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Results in CL today were pretty good. If other clubs fighting for top 4 have to stretch their squad for the group stages all the better for us

Agreed, but we want all 4 to qualify for the KO round so they don’t drop in to the Europa League


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Bernard wrote:
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I read some people saying that they view emery as the manager simply tasked with keeping the seat warm whilst we undergo a complete change in playing staff and restructure of the club.
2 of the 3 men who hired emery are no longer at the club. It seems that 90% if transfer business has been taken away from the manager.

Hi Rich, Gazidis is obviously one of the men who hired him. Who is the other one who has left? It’s probably me forgetting who else was in the hierarchy at the time because I very much doubt Mislintat was involved in the appointment. This stuff about Emery keeping the seat warm while the overhaul in playing staff and restructuring takes place sounds to me a bit like ITKs who in reality are really NITKs (not in the know).

I still think the length of Emery’s time in post will be driven by whether Arsenal qualify for next season’s Champions League. If we do, whether through a top four place or winning the Europa League, I reckon he’ll keep his job for 2020/21. If we don’t, I believe Emery will get his P45 and be replaced. I’ll be surprised if that single issue isn’t by far the most decisive factor,

Hi Bernard, I don’t know but I suspect the ‘keeping the seat warm’ wasn’t so much that he was appointed to do that but more that it has turned out that way....as it may have done for any manager coming in to the mess we were and the amount of player churn we needed. That is not to say that emery has helped himself here though


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Alf inge Halaand’s son is playing football for RB Salzburg, he’s 19, just scored a champions league hat trick and has 17 goals in 9 games so far this season. One to watch


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Rich wrote:
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Hi Rich, Gazidis is obviously one of the men who hired him. Who is the other one who has left? It’s probably me forgetting who else was in the hierarchy at the time because I very much doubt Mislintat was involved in the appointment. This stuff about Emery keeping the seat warm while the overhaul in playing staff and restructuring takes place sounds to me a bit like ITKs who in reality are really NITKs (not in the know).

I still think the length of Emery’s time in post will be driven by whether Arsenal qualify for next season’s Champions League. If we do, whether through a top four place or winning the Europa League, I reckon he’ll keep his job for 2020/21. If we don’t, I believe Emery will get his P45 and be replaced. I’ll be surprised if that single issue isn’t by far the most decisive factor,

Hi Bernard, I don’t know but I suspect the ‘keeping the seat warm’ wasn’t so much that he was appointed to do that but more that it has turned out that way....as it may have done for any manager coming in to the mess we were and the amount of player churn we needed. That is not to say that emery has helped himself here though

Rich, I really don’t think it has turned out that way yet. People are reacting to and dare I say jumping to conclusions too quickly after a dismal performance at Watford. A few wins and what’s being written will change, I reckon. I really don’t think it’s certain Emery will be sacked. If we qualify for the Champions League I fully expect him to still be in post next season. If we don’t, I think he’ll be gone. I see it as that simple.


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Ffs get your finger out Emery.

Dislike all the calls, okay a few calls, for Mourinho to sort us out.

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Xhaka completely open prior to the Sokratis gift. Why couldn't Leno just throw it over the 2 Watford players? I recall that being a Lehman favourite usually to the full backs / Wingers so why on Earth can't Leno do it. Surely easier than a Goalie trying to use their feet.

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From the things I've read and the leaks from behind the scenes I have the feeling that Emery is (to use a footballing cliche) losing the dressing room.

Once that happens I think there is only one ending.

It is sad because I had high hopes when he first arrived on the scene but I think it was clear at the end of last season (even before that to be honest) that things were just not improving, if anything they were getting worse. I fear his inability to grasp the english language and the footballing vernacular in particular has not helped. That is not a criticism, by the way, it's bloody hard to learn a new language at his age.

The mixed form of rivals like MU and Chelsea may keep us in the race for top four for a while but unless Bellerin and Tierney hit the ground running or Pépé find's some worldbeating form I think it will be a slog again this season.


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I think Emery who won the Europa cup three times in a row is capable of better than this, as is this squad of players.

The best starts to the season I remember were when we we pre seasoned in Austria. Everyone would tip Arsenal to drop out of the top four and we’d start the season like the proverbial well-oiled machine and by the time the wheels fell off in Feb-March we’d already built a decent points total and had loads of momentum.

Particularly compared to that I think we’re still ridiculously unsettled. Both first choice full backs and arguably a starting or a least supporting CB are out and only now looking to slowly integrate over the next couple of months. Pépé has had no preseason with us at all. Torreria came back so late he’s not been an option. The young players are clearly going to need a lot of support and time and even if they do start well like Willock we know from experience that tends to dry up and they shouldn’t be first choice.

It’s as far away from a fairly settled team with a settled philosophy having a smooth preseason as you could get.

My prediction was that we’d be a bit ropey at points but we’d muddle through at just below par (so on course for 5th/6th I suppose) until Christmas, then after the new year when Pépé’s settled, Holding Bellerin and Tierney have had a few games and Emery decides what we’re doing and we’ve given the young players some Europa experience we’d start to motor as a team. But it’d be too late to be anywhere near the top two and we’d be fourth maybe third depending on how much Chelsea Utd and Spurs struggle. My hope was third.

What I didn’t count on was this interminable *%^@ up and getting the balance of the team and tactics SO badly wrong. You can cope with muddling along and it’s a decent platform to improve. If it all implodes and recriminations start and Xhaka keeps saying we’re scared and we keep playing out from the back we’ll have no platform to kick on in Jan. If the club as a whole (looking at Edu and Sanlehi maybe) can keep their heads we should still make top four.

It feels like the equivalent of a boxer who if he can just survive the first round could go on to win on points.

Also you know when you hear something and you go “Yeah that feels right” Vieira to take over at the end of the season?


With regards to our preseason preparation under Wenger when we went to Austria for privacy and focus and now travel around the world pimping ourselves and our brand out via the players, we can all thank the Los Angeles Rams owner Stan Kroenke for that.

As for the 'balance" and "tactics" being wrong, its early and we have a lot of new faces and lost our captain and best defender. It's a bit early to expect a cohesive, tactical team. I think you are right in not expecting things to gel till near Xmas time.

I think 3rd is doable but as you note, its not dependent on us taking 3rd but by and large hoping Chelsea and Tottenham underperform compared to last season. That's not improving, that's hoping for those around you to underperform. Never a good strategy obviously.

Vieira, love him to death, but he's not ready for us. Lets see how he does with a far lower project like Nice. 7th place last season which isn't the worst rookie managerial season in the world, but they were 3rd at the end of the 2017 season, 8th in 2018 so a slight improvement. Obviously we all wish him the best. But we'll end up with a Lamps at Chelsea scenario if he were to take over now. He's not ready.

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..also, do we really have a legitimate shot at getting Luis Enrique? Really?

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Dislike all the calls, okay a few calls, for Mourinho to sort us out.

Not sure if I can think of a worse call. Maybe Sam Allardyce, but at least that would have the entertainment factor of watching AmericanGooner's meltdown.

Way too early to call for Emery's head, even though our play so far is worrying. I was sort of expecting our defense to continue looking shaky, we're still missing our two best full backs and with Luiz being the only addition in central defense for this season it was never going to be world class.

More worrying for me is our lack of offense. Tottenham is the only game where I can remember us putting sustained pressure on our opponent for a longer period of time, in the other games our goals seem to come from seemingly random chances or counter attacks. With the amount of attacking talent we have we should be doing better.


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Results in CL today were pretty good. If other clubs fighting for top 4 have to stretch their squad for the group stages all the better for us

Agreed, but we want all 4 to qualify for the KO round so they don’t drop in to the Europa League

True. It would be best if they qualify for the next round but really struggle to get top spot in the groups. If they have to play their best 11 a few times it can make a difference how they perform in the EPL

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Ffs get your finger out Emery.

Dislike all the calls, okay a few calls, for Mourinho to sort us out.

If he has to go I'd rather keep it in house.

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..also, do we really have a legitimate shot at getting Luis Enrique? Really?

Not when like in May 2018, he demanded a £200K war chest , as at the time, he was one being considered at first to replace AW. Stan no can do.

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WARRIOR: For the last 3 weeks or so I haven’t been able to connect to this site. Weirdly my phone can access the site. Any ideas how to solve this issue, as I prefer to interact with the site with a laptop. Thanks

Hey mate.

Can you PM me what IP address you are trying to connect with and also if you are using a VPN - particularly PIA VPN.

Eg: https://whatismyipaddress.com/

Also, when it fails, can you get to here : http://stevegleiber.com/
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Edit - I just checked - I don't think it's this end.
Currently-Blocked IP Addresses:
Server Setting Beginning IP Ending IP Actions
No IPs are being blocked.

It might be one of a few things:

https pages needing a lower MTU setting in your router (unlikely)

Some sort of VPN or malware blocker
- This site has mixed secure (onsite) and 'unsecure' (3rd party sites) content - from the links people post.

Maybe a web browser or blocker doesn't like it

A local vpn or blocker running - like an IP range blocker used for safer torrenting.
Eg: Peerblock <== That'll do it for sure

Your ISP or upstream provider blocking it (school, work, etc)

A broken or maladjusted proxy (or stale cache)

Maybe try a different web browser ?

A trace route would also help (Tracert) - to see where it is failing.

It would be interesting to try from another computer, but the same IP address.
Or - That computer into another internet connection - Or tethered off your mobile even.


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Post #510672  Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:28 pm 
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Was thinking a 4-2-1-3 seems to be the closest fit for the players we have.

After watching the Watford game, I think the best formation for us is 4-3-4-4


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Post #510673  Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:03 pm 
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Did anyone see the Napoli defeat of Liverpool. Now that's how to play in the Prem and how to win it too.


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Hi Bernard, I don’t know but I suspect the ‘keeping the seat warm’ wasn’t so much that he was appointed to do that but more that it has turned out that way....as it may have done for any manager coming in to the mess we were and the amount of player churn we needed. That is not to say that emery has helped himself here though

Rich, I really don’t think it has turned out that way yet. People are reacting to and dare I say jumping to conclusions too quickly after a dismal performance at Watford. A few wins and what’s being written will change, I reckon. I really don’t think it’s certain Emery will be sacked. If we qualify for the Champions League I fully expect him to still be in post next season. If we don’t, I think he’ll be gone. I see it as that simple.

I’d agree with that assessment, his target is black and white.


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Post #510675  Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:05 pm 
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Did anyone see the Napoli defeat of Liverpool. Now that's how to play in the Prem and how to win it too.

Napoli played well but 2 big errors from Liverpool we’re punished. Robertson giving away a pen - he’s started the season slowly. And van Dijk with a poor pass to no one in his own area


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Post #510676  Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:06 pm 
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..also, do we really have a legitimate shot at getting Luis Enrique? Really?

Not when like in May 2018, he demanded a £200K war chest , as at the time, he was one being considered at first to replace AW. Stan no can do.

Allegri doesn’t have a job at the moment


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Post #510677  Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:15 pm 
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It’s strange how the thing emery was lauded for when he was hired is the thing that’s possibly holding him back now.
He does intense analysis of the opposition and sets his team up to try to counter this. Now it feels like he changes the team too much and worries about the opposition more than concentrating on our strengths, even if the opposition are bottom of the league and we’re at home (Brighton at home last year with 3 defensive mids)

After years of wenger sending the same team with the same tactics no matter the opposition or occasion it was great to hear we hired a guy who did his research. The reality is we need something in between.

Pick the way to play that suits our best players, and attack. Play this way at all times and just tweak the tactics and players in accordance to the very dangerous teams. The best teams set up the same way but may attack wider, defend deeper, press or not - but by and large it is the same system.


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Post #510678  Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:29 pm 
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I love seeing Real Madrid losing and not doing well. Arrogant club. They act like they are bigger than the sport itself.

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Away from home. Not playing well. Fortunate to go 2-0 up.

Then completely lose control and provide opponents gifts as a way back into the game. Subside to 2-2.

Good to see that Tottenham have copied us this evening.

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Away from home. Not playing well. Fortunate to go 2-0 up.

Then completely lose control and provide opponents gifts as a way back into the game. Subside to 2-2.

Good to see that Tottenham have copied us this evening.

Tottenham went 0-2 up against us before drawing 2-2 as well as tonight.


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