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Post #501721  Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:47 pm 
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Luiz is a shite defender. Always was always will be and Salah showed it in technicolor.

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And that's 3 nil ... :22cry:


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Post #501723  Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:47 pm 
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I think it’s fair to say we’re still nowhere near Liverpool’s level. This could get ugly.

We are making them look good. Southampton gave then a game last week. We are giving them all the time in the world to play passes.


They were coming off extra time midweek. I’d rather play that pool


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Ash wrote:
Ok make some subs now

Elneny and Mustafi on for Liverpool.


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Ceballos off Toreira on.

Thanks Unai but too late.

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At least Ceballos transfer fee has gone back down again.

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warrior wrote:
Ash wrote:
Ok make some subs now

Elneny and Mustafi on for Liverpool.


That might just do it :1laughter:


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Ok make some subs now

Elneny and Mustafi on for Liverpool.


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At least Ceballos transfer fee has gone back down again.


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Post #501730  Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:50 pm 
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Kroenke OUT. (and Emery)

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Game plan working ok, getting the best chances on the counter but fail to take them. Then concede from a corner, the sort of goal a non league side can score against you is particularly annoying as we’d done the hard bit of defending.
Then a classic arsenal moment of madness and of course we crumble.

We may be better than last season but it feels like baby steps when you see this sort of thing. So few other teams just lay down and for once the first goal goes against them. Norwich put up more of a fight, and we’re bravef than us


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Any links please?

On the Horror Channel.

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Post #501733  Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:51 pm 
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Ash wrote:
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Was Abamayang out on the tear last night? Looks like a guy that's half asleep today. How many millions did Emery spend this summer? This shower look pretty hopeless, to be frank. Worse, they look like a team still managed by Wenger.


We were always going to look bad against a settled team that got 99 points and won the champions league. Let’s not *%^@ our pants


We’re too good at accepting that we’re not good enough though Ash. You expect a bit more from top flight players than this seemingly habitual cave in at all the top clubs, not to mention lesser teams.

It’s just not good enough if we’re ever going to be taken seriously again.

Then we take off Ceballos, and bring on Torreira. So a defensive sub when we’re 3 down. Doesn’t make sense.

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Ash wrote:
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Was Abamayang out on the tear last night? Looks like a guy that's half asleep today. How many millions did Emery spend this summer? This shower look pretty hopeless, to be frank. Worse, they look like a team still managed by Wenger.


We were always going to look bad against a settled team that got 99 points and won the champions league. Let’s not *%^@ our pants

Or let's not settle for looking bad after spending over 120 million.


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We may be better than last season but it feels like baby steps when you gsee this sort of thing. So few other teams just lay down and for once the first goal goes against them. Norwich put up more of a fight, and we’re bravef than us

We do seem to have a long-standing habit of imploding don’t we?

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The test now is to see if this team has any cojones and to see if it still fights and tries to win the game.

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john1 wrote:
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We were always going to look bad against a settled team that got 99 points and won the champions league. Let’s not *%^@ our pants


We’re too good at accepting that we’re not good enough though Ash. You expect a bit more from top flight players than this seemingly habitual cave in at all the top clubs, not to mention lesser teams.

It’s just not good enough if we’re ever going to be taken seriously again.

Then we take off Ceballos, and bring on Torreira. So a defensive sub when we’re 3 down. Doesn’t make sense.


We’ve had nothing in midfield all game, I think it makes sense. I think we have to be accepting of it when when we’re very much in transition and we play Liverpool way third game of the season. Whilst there is a limit, I’m happy to basically ignore this result and carry on improving.


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Then we take off Ceballos, and bring on Torreira. So a defensive sub when we’re 3 down. Doesn’t make sense.

If it avoids a 8-2 then it makes sense.
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long time gooner wrote:
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Then we take off Ceballos, and bring on Torreira. So a defensive sub when we’re 3 down. Doesn’t make sense.

If it avoids a 8-2 then it makes sense.
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I think that is the thinking.

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Ash wrote:
Whilst there is a limit, I’m happy to basically ignore this result and carry on improving.

Fair enough. I wasn’t expecting a lot from this one anyway.

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long time gooner wrote:
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Then we take off Ceballos, and bring on Torreira. So a defensive sub when we’re 3 down. Doesn’t make sense.

If it avoids a 8-2 then it makes sense.
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Disappointing that we never got any sort of a grip in this game though.

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Early season optimism draining away....
This will happen season after season at anfield.
We are no match for them on their own patch.
Was faintly hoping things would be different today but deep down you knew it would be another sound beating.


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Why did they choose the granite tile? :1laughter:

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long time gooner wrote:
Disappointing that we never got any sort of a grip in this game though.


Absolutely. I think Torreria being off the pace is a factor. I think we’ve looked a bit more secure since he’s come on.

Some thinking to do for emery and Edu for sure but it’s a stern lesson they’ve got to learn from. Guendouzi want too much time but then we knew that.


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Why did they choose the granite tile? :1laughter:

I don’t understand that. What’s a granite tile?

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Unlikely to make any difference to the result but missing the first choice full backs is hurting us. The difference between Bellerin/Tierney and AMN/Monreal is quite big. I wouldn’t have minded facing Liverpool minus their two full backs and with ours.

Liverpool have 11 players who know the exact plan inside out, they know exactly where they should be and where they should run and who they should pass to. They are also built as a team with attributes to perfectly suit their managers game plan, fast, athletic, high tempo, and relentless fitness.

We’re taking baby steps in trying to catch them up. We have some forward players who wouldn’t look out of place in Liverpool’s team but our midfield is incredibly pedestrian compared to Liverpool. On pure talent I don’t think there is a massive difference but it is the mobility, energy and know how that kills us


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long time gooner wrote:
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Then we take off Ceballos, and bring on Torreira. So a defensive sub when we’re 3 down. Doesn’t make sense.

If it avoids a 8-2 then it makes sense.
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Hmm, maybe.

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Positives today: a few cameos from Pépé. Otherwise, it's as you were since last year. And Mustafi isn't even on the pitch! That summariser on Sky is describing a different Arsenal.


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Rich wrote:
Unlikely to make any difference to the result but missing the first choice full backs is hurting us. The difference between Bellerin/Tierney and AMN/Monreal is quite big. I wouldn’t have minded facing Liverpool minus their two full backs and with ours.

Liverpool have 11 players who know the exact plan inside out, they know exactly where they should be and where they should run and who they should pass to. They are also built as a team with attributes to perfectly suit their managers game plan, fast, athletic, high tempo, and relentless fitness.

We’re taking baby steps in trying to catch them up. We have some forward players who wouldn’t look out of place in Liverpool’s team but our midfield is incredibly pedestrian compared to Liverpool. On pure talent I don’t think there is a massive difference but it is the mobility, energy and know how that kills us


Couldn’t agree more. I fancy us to beat them at home later in the season which sounds crazy after this. But it make sense when you think about players bedding in and players coming back.


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Could really do without a NLD to follow this.

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Yay! A goal.

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Could really do without a NLD to follow this.


Thanks I feel better now. :8angers:

At least it’s at home.

And there’s my man Torreria. Have that.


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Two more now and I might still have time to delete my last few posts...


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Game on!!!!


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I think Monreal has played well

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Gunfire wrote:
I think Monreal has played well


Fair. His lack of pace has been exposed, which was always very likely.

Guendouzi and Ceballos below average and bad respectively.

Pépé class touches if lacking a bit of fight and end product.

Torreria looks out best player since coming on.

Luiz again lack of pace more than anything which you’d expect at 32.

Most everyone else ok. Liverpool - ruthless.


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Disappointed not to play Lacazette from the start. I’d be interested to see how many other teams decide to not play one of their first choice strikers at Anfield.

With the best teams you can name their best 11 and the formation they’ll play. I think arsenal have played 3 different formations so far this season


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Two more now and I might still have time to delete my last few posts...

Your posts are safe. Not too much of an unexpected result though ...


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Rich wrote:
Disappointed not to play Lacazette from the start. I’d be interested to see how many other teams decide to not play one of their first choice strikers at Anfield.

With the best teams you can name their best 11 and the formation they’ll play. I think arsenal have played 3 different formations so far this season


Yeah didn’t really understand that. Not fully fit??


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