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socrates · **#501361**

Hazuki wrote:

Not pretty yesterday, but three good points in the bag. I thought Emery was proven right with his team selection when Ceballos and Pépé came on, because it’s obvious they’re a bit behind the others in terms of match fitness. The need a week or two at least to get back into it, but both showed some promise.

Thought Guendozi and Xhaka bossed the midfield, particularly in the second half. The entire back four was really good, special mention to Maitland-Niles for a great assist, and Monreal who I thought looked like his rock solid old self. Mkhitaryan had one of those days where nothing went his way, but he’s always involved and no matter how much fans want to see the back of him he’s miles ahead of Nelson at the moment. Willock had a good first half but ran out of gas early in the second.

Think it’ll take some time before we get the best out of this team, so it’s important to get the points whichever way we can until then.

I thought Nelson was quite bright yesterday. You can see he has excellent technical ability, its just whether he can turn good positions and situations into a quality final ball or a shot on goal. That's where he needs to develop his game.

Willock was very promising, too, until he ran out of steam as you said.

As a lot of forumites have already said, Mika is a curious mix of great, mediocre and awful, often in the space of the same phase of play. One minute he's bursting forward past several challenges with a surging run and then he *%^@* up an easy pass.

AMN always has some really excellent moments going forward but I still feel he is vulnerable defensively, essentially because he's not a natural defender and doesn't have that instinctive defensive awareness.

AmericanGooner · **#501362**

I'm not going to make more out of the Chelsea loss than what it is. The first game for a new coach at a very tough place to play.

Its a huge step up for Lampard. I hope Chelsea suffer more losses like this but you can't judge his tenure by an away match at Old Trafford in his first game.

Hazuki · **#501363**

socrates wrote:

I thought Nelson was quite bright yesterday. You can see he has excellent technical ability, its just whether he can turn good positions and situations into a quality final ball or a shot on goal. That's where he needs to develop his game.

Yeah, I thought he had a good game, particularly in the second half. He tried a lot of things, and even if all of it didn’t come off he wasn’t scared to get involved. Not ready to start in the Premier League yet, but I’m looking forward to seeing more of him in Europa League and the domestic cups, with maybe some sub appearences in the league here and there.

Gaz from Oz · **#501364**

Goonie wrote:

Are those your works, Gaz? Very nice.

Yes. Usually do more Australian country scenes but doing a bit more seascapes.

Hazuki · **#501365**

Rich wrote:

Martinez
Bellerin, Holding, Luiz, Tierney
Torreira, cellabos
Pépé, Özil, Kolasinac
Lacazette

This is actually a very, very strong team. Compare that to Chelsea and United, who should be seen as our main rivals for top 4 at this stage. Not sure exactly what their respective second elevens would look like, but something like this:

Caballero
Zappacosta – Rudiger – Tomori – Alonso
Kanté – Bakayoko
Hudson-Odoi – Loftus-Cheek – Willian
Giroud

Pereira
Dalot – Smalling – Jones – Rojo
Matic – Fred
James – Mata – Young
Sanchez

How many of these players could be expected to add real quality to a side chasing top 4? Kanté is a given. Sanchez if he's fit and in form, but it's been a long time since that happened. Willian is good on his day. Not much else there.

Hazuki · **#501366**

Not going to do a second eleven for Man City, because it's too depressing.

Gaz from Oz · **#501367**

I don't know if others have watched the VAR decision in Wolves game which disallowed a goal.

This is where the whole thing will get really messy. It looked to me as if they wanted to disallow it. IMO they got an advantage but the ball fit the arm and was unavoidable and they overruled the refs decision.

Therefore they have set the rules for the future - if a ball hits a defenders arm even unintentionally and they gain any advantage - in fact in every case you must gain an advantage - then it must be a penalty. If you are the attackers it must be disallowed. No if or buts.

If not then the whole system is a total joke.

Gunfire · **#501368**

Draytonkid wrote:

After watching the game yesterday, just wondering if Luiz would be be better for the team by playing in Zhakas place, as Papa and Chambers looked quite solid, he would give them protection and would be able to get forward more and support the attack with his long range passing and shooting and he's good at free kicks.

I said that yesterday. I think he'd be good in front of the back 4. That's the traditional Brazilian set up. 2 CBs a DM in front them. SIlva, Dunga etc and the 2 FBs bombing forward. Most teams will park the bus at the Emirates so we needn't worry too much about defence.

TOP GUN · **#501369**

You can’t have Luiz in midfield alongside Torreira, they would effectively want to do the same thing and would hamper us going forward. The Xhaka and guendouzi pivot yesterday was too defensive nevermind introducing a centre half to the fray.

Luiz has been signed as a centre back, unless there’s an injury crisis I can’t see him being deployed in midfield

gooner7 · **#501370**

Onwards to Burnley game. A 3 goal victory?

TOP GUN · **#501371**

gooner7 wrote:

Onwards to Burnley game. A 3 goal victory?

Any victory will do as we need to increase momentum. I thought yesterday we looked lethargic, off the pace and very indirect which meant we were unable to create much. Basically Maitland niles and Aubameyang got us out of jail otherwise people would be on here asking for Emery to be sacked today

bromley gooner · **#501372**

gooner7 wrote:

Onwards to Burnley game. A 3 goal victory?

Let’s hope so g7, but Burnley picked up a 3-0 win themselves and can be very stubborn opponents. Not to be taken for granted.

warrior · **#501373**

Hi all.

Is anyone having problems accessing the forum the past few days by chance ?

bromley gooner · **#501374**

warrior wrote:

Hi all.

Is anyone having problems accessing the forum the past few days by chance ?

No problems for me Warrior :58big-emoticons:

TOP GUN · **#501375**

The Özil & Kolasinac thing is plain weird. There’s definitely more than meets the eye to it from reading about the latest reports today.

The media are suggesting they are caught up in a argument between 2 criminal gangs, one of which wants to protect the players. You would have to suggest that there is a connection between the 2 players and a criminal gang then surely ? Paying protection, friendships or something. The players are denying that currently.

They are also reporting Kolasinac wife has gone back to Germany and won’t return. Surely that’s going to mean him departing at some point.

Gunfire · **#501376**

Didn't realise that our first season back in the top flight we lost 0-1 to Newcastle at Highbury. As we begin of 2nd century we get revenge.

Bernard · **#501377**

TOP GUN wrote:

They are also reporting Kolasinac wife has gone back to Germany and won’t return. Surely that’s going to mean him departing at some point.

So at least one good thing will come from all of this.

TOP GUN · **#501378**

Bernard wrote:

TOP GUN wrote:

They are also reporting Kolasinac wife has gone back to Germany and won’t return. Surely that’s going to mean him departing at some point.

So at least one good thing will come from all of this.

Just need Mustafi, mhikitaryan and el Nenny pulled into this crimewave and we should be ok.

Surely only a matter of time before somebody blames Emery for the car jacking attempt

john1 · **#501379**

bromley gooner wrote:

warrior wrote:

Hi all.

Is anyone having problems accessing the forum the past few days by chance ?

No problems for me Warrior :58big-emoticons:

No problems for me either Rog.

Rich · **#501380**

One big thing we need to change this season is the attempts on goal.
Last season we were only ranked 11th for shots on goal. This weekend only Leicester had fewer shots on target that us.

Pépé should be a big help to this but we need more from some of our shot shy players.

Bernard · **#501381**

john1 wrote:

bromley gooner wrote:

No problems for me Warrior :58big-emoticons:

No problems for me either Rog.

Nor me.

Ash · **#501382**

Gaz from Oz wrote:

I don't know if others have watched the VAR decision in Wolves game which disallowed a goal.

This is where the whole thing will get really messy. It looked to me as if they wanted to disallow it. IMO they got an advantage but the ball fit the arm and was unavoidable and they overruled the refs decision.

Therefore they have set the rules for the future - if a ball hits a defenders arm even unintentionally and they gain any advantage - in fact in every case you must gain an advantage - then it must be a penalty. If you are the attackers it must be disallowed. No if or buts.

If not then the whole system is a total joke.

They’ve changed the rules for this season so that if there’s a hand ball by an attacking player in the immediate build up to a goal it's disallowed. So like Iwobi’s goal against... i forget last season.

Makes sense to me, it hit the guy’s hand and fell right to the goal scorer.

Gaz from Oz · **#501383**

Ash wrote:

Gaz from Oz wrote:

I don't know if others have watched the VAR decision in Wolves game which disallowed a goal.

This is where the whole thing will get really messy. It looked to me as if they wanted to disallow it. IMO they got an advantage but the ball fit the arm and was unavoidable and they overruled the refs decision.

Therefore they have set the rules for the future - if a ball hits a defenders arm even unintentionally and they gain any advantage - in fact in every case you must gain an advantage - then it must be a penalty. If you are the attackers it must be disallowed. No if or buts.

If not then the whole system is a total joke.

They’ve changed the rules for this season so that if there’s a hand ball by an attacking player in the immediate build up to a goal it's disallowed. So like Iwobi’s goal against... i forget last season.

Makes sense to me, it hit the guy’s hand and fell right to the goal scorer.

I want consistency. So with VAR in the women’s World Cup most hand balls by defenders resulted in VAR being consulted no matter how far they were from the player kicking the ball. Will that be what the EPL applies or are they sticking with the natural position of the hand even although that seems to vary with who is interpreting it.

gooner7 · **#501384**

warrior wrote:

Hi all.

Is anyone having problems accessing the forum the past few days by chance ?

ok at my end :58big-emoticons:

kiwipete · **#501385**

Gaz from Oz wrote:

Another which I like better than the first

I prefer watercolours but having said that you have a fair amount of talent Gaz .... they are very good .

Hazuki · **#501386**

Rich wrote:

One big thing we need to change this season is the attempts on goal.
Last season we were only ranked 11th for shots on goal. This weekend only Leicester had fewer shots on target that us.

Pépé should be a big help to this but we need more from some of our shot shy players.

This is crucial. I’ve seen a lot of pundits who just look at our goal totals from last season and say our attack is fine and we just need to improve defensively (I even saw Ian Hollow on deadline day make a really weird point about how we would’ve been better of signing Gary Cahill than Pépé). To me that’s madness, I don’t think anyone who watched us regularly last season can say we looked impressive offensively for any stretch of the season. We just didn’t create enough chances and that is one of the biggest areas we need to improve.

kiwipete · **#501387**

john1 wrote:

No problems for me either Rog.

with exception of being Welsh ............................... :12hello-bye:

Rich · **#501388**

Swiss Ramble doing a good explanation on Twitter of our finances and how we could afford to splash out £130m odd this summer.

Interestingly it shows wages off the books at £725k per week, and players bought in at only £495k per week. So £230k saving on wages per week. £12m per year

TOP GUN · **#501389**

The excellent Swiss ramble explaining our summers transfer business financially

https://twitter.com/swissramble/status/ ... 27169?s=21

john1 · **#501390**

kiwipete wrote:

john1 wrote:

No problems for me either Rog.

with exception of being Welsh ............................... :12hello-bye:

What can I say Pete; you're quite right.

The responsibility of being Welsh is massive, particularly because of the following:

"Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have the greatness of being Welsh thrust upon them." (The original William Shakespeare quote.)

:icon_wink:

Hazuki · **#501391**

TOP GUN wrote:

The excellent Swiss ramble explaining our summers transfer business financially

https://twitter.com/swissramble/status/ ... 27169?s=21

Swiss Ramble is of course correct in that there are many different ways to look at transfer spending.

What bothers me is the way the media has been reporting our £45m budget; if we look at what was being said before the summer, not one of them was saying £45m is what we can spend in total on first year installments. In fact I’ve never seen any reporter ever talk about a transfer budget in those terms. Then, when Arsenal goes out and overspends the reported £45m by a lot, they all start talking about installments. They’re mixing up financial terms willy nilly to justify their earlier reporting which was simply based on information that wasn’t correct.

AmericanGooner · **#501392**

Heard an interview with a guy who was a convict in the same prison as Jeffrey Epstein and said it was virtually impossible to commit suicide if you are on suicide watch. He mentioned how they take every precaution and that the prison has pretty much seen every conceivable means people have used in the pass and you'd have to be a genius and desperate and very quick about your own demise to even have a chance to do it.

Hmmm

Rich · **#501393**

There is a good video doing the rounds of Emery's reaction when Willock was shrugged off the ball and then chased back 20 yards to make a recover tackle. Emery celebrated it like a goal

TOP GUN · **#501394**

Rich wrote:

There is a good video doing the rounds of Emery's reaction when Willock was shrugged off the ball and then chased back 20 yards to make a recover tackle. Emery celebrated it like a goal

People need to stop complaining, over analysing stuff and get behind the guy for once.

You can see he cares. He never blames the officials, never blames his players or chucks them under a bus even if they are out of order, often makes difficult changes, always speaks with dignity and never complains about the absolute pup he was sold when he joined.

Yesterday that prat who runs Le Grove was getting excited about Emery leaving and Mourinho joining as we now have relations with his agent Mendez. Let me assure you Jose Mourinho would be a disaster for Arsenal, he would waste all our money and leave us 2 years later in a worse state than Wenger.

For the first time in *%^@*** years this season there seems to be a positive feeling at the club. Just enjoy it and if we lose to Liverpool don’t chuck your toys out the pram because we lost a game.

Abu · **#501395**

AmericanGooner wrote:

Heard an interview with a guy who was a convict in the same prison as Jeffrey Epstein and said it was virtually impossible to commit suicide if you are on suicide watch. He mentioned how they take every precaution and that the prison has pretty much seen every conceivable means people have used in the pass and you'd have to be a genius and desperate and very quick about your own demise to even have a chance to do it.

Hmmm

He wasn't on suicide watch boner.

AmericanGooner · **#501396**

Anyone else marginally interested in the Super Cup as I am? I may watch it if I can't find anything of interest on TV like 'The Joys of Watching Paint Dry'.

Rich · **#501397**

Debut goal for Nketiah for Leeds in the cup tonight

Bernard · **#501398**

Rich wrote:

Debut goal for Nketiah for Leeds in the cup tonight

Not watching the game (until I saw your post I had no idea it was even being played). How has he played?

Rich · **#501399**

Bernard wrote:

Rich wrote:

Debut goal for Nketiah for Leeds in the cup tonight

Not watching the game (until I saw your post I had no idea it was even being played). How has he played?

I didn’t watch I’m afraid. Reports said it was a classic right place right time tap in finish. Exactly what Eddie does well.

AmericanGooner · **#501400**

With ties to Trump, Clinton and a royal as well as many of the 1% and the fact it was said he kept meticulous notes on his comings (no pun intended) and going. Something is amiss and we may never know what really happened because it reaches too high. Just like how the 9/11 commission couldn't find the person who vetoed watching the terrorists who were taking flying lessons in America.

If the same exact scenario happened in Russia or China, it would automatically be assumed and fairly accepted as fact the government engineered it all. But America gets a pass from logic and reason.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-frenc ... 46357.html
The Latest: 1 of Epstein's guards not a corrections officer

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