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Post #498481  Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:58 am 
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I'm just saying its a tough top four to crack this season. Either we have to be really good or we need two of those ahead of us to have poor seasons. 75 points, which would be a big improvement, might still get us 6th. I can't see another season where 71 got us second place like that one we finished second to Leicester.

I also think for us to challenge for a Champs league spot we will need to see a 'big' player or two having a standout season. Someone like Aubameyang, Xhaka, or Özil needs to emerge as a leader/inspirational figure.

Okay but I think we're nearer to Chelsea and Man Utd than you. Even Tottenham.

Changing subjects, it's confirmed on Arsenal.com that Gazidis is off to Milan.

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So Gazidis ousted Wenger just to leave himself? Or is he planning to hire Wenger to be Milan's manager?


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Post #498483  Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:13 am 
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It will be interesting to see the changes we manage to make this season.
My prediction is that our home form against teams 7-20 will be as strong as last year
Our away form v teams 7-20 will improve a lot
Our total points Home and away v the big 6 will be much the same.

I 12or so point improvement on last years total

I'd be disapoointed if Emery can't improve on total points in the league. We should be able to get 70 points minimally.


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Post #498484  Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:45 am 
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Is Tim Payton of the Arsenal Supporter's Trust being fair to Gazidis? Saying he was 'conference level' in his tenure with us? I always thought Gazidis was hamstrung to a certain extent because of Wenger's power within the club. It's a very harsh statement.

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Interesting thoughts in twitter now that it is official.
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If I had the money, I'd actually buy an apartment there. In today's real estate market in large, global cities (London, Paris, NYC, Tokyo, etc.) it may not be outrageous but its not cheap either.

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So Gazidis ousted Wenger just to leave himself? Or is he planning to hire Wenger to be Milan's manager?


https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/p ... 1537278872

Arsenal CEO Ivan Gazidis to leave Premier League club and take up post at AC Milan


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Post #498489  Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:50 pm 
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Spurs 1-0 up away to Inter and looking like a very good result.....85 mins gone.

Now full time and Inter scored twice in the final 5 minutes to beat them 2-1.

Quite happy for Spurs to be kicked when they're down. With so many players in the later stages of the world cup, no new faces and a few players woefully out of form this could hopefully be a long season for Spurs


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Spurs 1-0 up away to Inter and looking like a very good result.....85 mins gone.

Now full time and Inter scored twice in the final 5 minutes to beat them 2-1.

Quite happy for Spurs to be kicked when they're down. With so many players in the later stages of the world cup, no new faces and a few players woefully out of form this could hopefully be a long season for Spurs

Entertaining start to the CL - Spurs chucking it away and a sublime Messi hat trick.


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Feel sorry for Spudz......... :1cry:

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OK that was a joke,.......... :7laughter:

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Cmon PSG.

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Cmon PSG.

I don't like what Tuchel has done with them. Far too much short passing. With players like Rabiot, Cavani amd Mbappe you want quick balls forward for those guys to drive forward onto.

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Late winner from Firminho. What an excellent player he is.


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Well done LFC, and WOW Anfield.

The Emirates will never have that atmosphere.

We all remember that Highbury used to be like that. The Tottenham Stadium might get there with their end, if they can copy the BVB Yellow Wall, but I doubt it.

The Emirates will never have that atmosphere.

The atmosphire was like that at Highbury very rarely. The Anderlecht final was on a different level, but the number of games the next level down from that weren't that frequent. It was called the Highbury library after all. I've no doubt part of the reason was a convenient rhyme. But let's not exaggerate the atmosphere.


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I've just listened to his after match summation and it's like he is speaking English with a mouth full of ball bearings .

Bearing in mind that it's Emery's second language and he's learning as he goes I think his English is pretty good. At least he's not hiding behind an interpreter.

How's your Spanish then?

There was no malice in the comment , and indeed round of applause for manning up , I'd recommend bringing Bellerin in with him to do a tandem act .

My Spanish ..exceptional .... worked on an oil rig way back with mainly Spanish Portuguese ... tres cervezas y dos rones ..por favor , mierda , cabron dios , gracias , maldito maricon , joder


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So Gazidis ousted Wenger just to leave himself? Or is he planning to hire Wenger to be Milan's manager?


Rumour is, he cannot understand Emery's English and neither can he speak Spanish :42laughter:

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Has Klopp finally developed the machine he needs to be a serious challenger on all fronts? Kudos to Liverpool and Klopp! :53big-emoticons:

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It may have taken a little longer than most thought he would need, but it shouldn't really be a surprise Klopp has built a formidable Liverpool side. He needed to build 'his' team and implement his tactics.
What he did in Germany is evidence he can win trophies against much bigger rivals.

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Yes, Babu, but that rival, singular is an effing giant of a rival. He wasn't beating Ajax or Porto. LFC has won everything but the PL title. That's their goal. In fact, I'd be surprised if the fans had a choice of winning the league or the CL this season they'd probably take the league by a comfortable margin.

That said, with all the 'clutter' at the top of the table with as many good sides as I've seen in my relatively short time as a fan (late 90s), LFC has distinguished themselves, even over MUFC which takes some doing. They may end up winning nothing this season but with how they look, I can see them winning the title in the next 2-3 years I reckon. He's no Brendon Rodgers.

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I hear how good Arteta is. What specifically makes him good? Tactics? Something else.

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I hear how good Arteta is. What specifically makes him good? Tactics? Something else.

From where have you heard he's so good? Guardiola appointed him, so one assumes Arteta must have something. But I doubt Guardiola is dependant on Arteta for tactics, or anything else.


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Bearing in mind that it's Emery's second language and he's learning as he goes I think his English is pretty good. At least he's not hiding behind an interpreter.

How's your Spanish then?

There was no malice in the comment , and indeed round of applause for manning up , I'd recommend bringing Bellerin in with him to do a tandem act .

My Spanish ..exceptional .... worked on an oil rig way back with mainly Spanish Portuguese ... tres cervezas y dos rones ..por favor , mierda , cabron dios , gracias , maldito maricon , joder

nah not having it kp, you're just reeling off the Athletico Madrid back 4 there :icon_smile11:


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Tickets for tomorrow night's game v Vorskia Poltava range from £16 to £24. By any standards, that's cheap.

Until of course you check the away ticket price next week at Qarabag - £4.50!!!


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Tickets for tomorrow night's game v Vorskia Poltava range from £16 to £24. By any standards, that's cheap.

Until of course you check the away ticket price next week at Qarabag - £4.50!!!

Tickets for Brentford next week are a tenner each. Should be an entertaining match that.


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Tickets for Brentford next week are a tenner each. Should be an entertaining match that.

In the lower tier they're ten. In the upper tier they're twenty.


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tomc wrote:
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Tickets for tomorrow night's game v Vorskia Poltava range from £16 to £24. By any standards, that's cheap.

Until of course you check the away ticket price next week at Qarabag - £4.50!!!

Tickets for Brentford next week are a tenner each. Should be an entertaining match that.


To be fair, you would also need to spend $20 on a tourist visa for wherever the hell it is that Qarabaq play.


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The media would go mad over Liverpool finally winning the league again since '90 and it would be almost unbearable with the sentiment but I'd never want Man Utd to win the league again in my lifetime. They were top dogs when I got into football and even though they were never quite as dominant after 2003, they still won titles and another CL, so they have had enough. I'd rather City, LFC or even...cough....spit...the scum to win it than Man Utd.

Good points on Bayern, they own the bundesliga though. So financially dominant over the rest of the league, its the SPL on a bigger scale.

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tomc wrote:
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There was no malice in the comment , and indeed round of applause for manning up , I'd recommend bringing Bellerin in with him to do a tandem act .

My Spanish ..exceptional .... worked on an oil rig way back with mainly Spanish Portuguese ... tres cervezas y dos rones ..por favor , mierda , cabron dios , gracias , maldito maricon , joder

nah not having it kp, you're just reeling off the Athletico Madrid back 4 there :icon_smile11:

:laughing7: you might have a point Tom .... joder , maldito maricon , mierda would certainly figure in Daz's thoughts on Sergio
.... whereas Brom would tender talentoso , fuerte , excelente .


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What a great start to the morning ..... Petro $$$$ lose at home ... cue to spending another 3 billion in January ... I hate that club and all it stands for .
Ronaldo get's sent off and Chezney saves a penalty


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I hear how good Arteta is. What specifically makes him good? Tactics? Something else.

From where have you heard he's so good? Guardiola appointed him, so one assumes Arteta must have something. But I doubt Guardiola is dependant on Arteta for tactics, or anything else.

Well when Guardiola is banned from the touchline, meaning it's Arteta's job to lead their side from the touchline tonight, City lose at home to Lyon. Perhaps that isn't one of Arteta's strengths in management?


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From where have you heard he's so good? Guardiola appointed him, so one assumes Arteta must have something. But I doubt Guardiola is dependant on Arteta for tactics, or anything else.

Well when Guardiola is banned from the touchline, meaning it's Arteta's job to lead their side from the touchline tonight, City lose at home to Lyon. Perhaps that isn't one of Arteta's strengths in management?


Worth pointing out that arteta is one of several coaches at city including Brian Kidd

https://talksport.com/football/360767/w ... including/

I thought it was totally premature when he was being mentioned as our new boss

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I thought it was totally premature when he was being mentioned as our new boss

Me too. A club of Arsenal's size is a big ask for anyone taking their first job as a head coach. But the state Wenger left us in would make it a challenge for anyone with significant experience too.

Also, does Arteta have the right character for the immediate post-Wenger period at Arsenal? Even as club captain he never struck me as that forceful. Arguably a little meek and mild, or passive. At this precise stage of Arsenal's history, I think that may not be the pesonality type the club requires in its head coach.

Look, Arteta may one day be a terrific head coach. But at this stage of his managerial career, I remain to be convinced that he was a good fit with what Arsenal currently need. If you like, he and the club struck me as two jigsaw puzzle pieces that don't go next to each other, so don't slot into place together.


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Babu, are you sure you weren't in the Director's box, eating your prawn sandwiches and berating the waiter for bringing you a 1977 Burgundy vintage when you explicitly requested the 1990 Domaine de la Romanee-Conti Romanee-Conti Grand Cru?

I had a client years ago in Los Angeles who gave me VIP tickets to a Los Angeles Lakers game. It was the worst. I was in an enclosed box, had to watch the game on the TV in the VIP room because I couldn't really see the court.

As for Arteta, when he was being touted as a possible replacement for Wenger there were a couple articles about how much Pep rated him and he would make suggestions to Pep that changed matches (from the bad to good for the pedants :icon_mrgreen: ) and then recently how he is not upset about losing the job. Like many others, at the time, I wondered what he done to be considered for the manager's job other than he was a former captain and Pep chose him as an assistant.

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The Gazidis departure and announcements about the new structure. Totally uninspiring and that ridiculous photo of him with the replacements looked pathetic

If ever you needed a reminder the club is going nowhere under Kroenke.

Emery is basically a sacrificial bunny.

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Tickets for Brentford next week are a tenner each. Should be an entertaining match that.


To be fair, you would also need to spend $20 on a tourist visa for wherever the hell it is that Qarabaq play.


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Me too. A club of Arsenal's size is a big ask for anyone taking their first job as a head coach. But the state Wenger left us in would make it a challenge for anyone with significant experience too.

Also, does Arteta have the right character for the immediate post-Wenger period at Arsenal? Even as club captain he never struck me as that forceful. Arguably a little meek and mild, or passive. At this precise stage of Arsenal's history, I think that may not be the pesonality type the club requires in its head coach.

Look, Arteta may one day be a terrific head coach. But at this stage of his managerial career, I remain to be convinced that he was a good fit with what Arsenal currently need. If you like, he and the club struck me as two jigsaw puzzle pieces that don't go next to each other, so don't slot into place together.


Guardiola's first job was managing Barcelona. Seemed to do ok.

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Me too. A club of Arsenal's size is a big ask for anyone taking their first job as a head coach. But the state Wenger left us in would make it a challenge for anyone with significant experience too.

Also, does Arteta have the right character for the immediate post-Wenger period at Arsenal? Even as club captain he never struck me as that forceful. Arguably a little meek and mild, or passive. At this precise stage of Arsenal's history, I think that may not be the pesonality type the club requires in its head coach.

Look, Arteta may one day be a terrific head coach. But at this stage of his managerial career, I remain to be convinced that he was a good fit with what Arsenal currently need. If you like, he and the club struck me as two jigsaw puzzle pieces that don't go next to each other, so don't slot into place together.


Guardiola's first job was managing Barcelona. Seemed to do ok.

Barcelona already had Messi, Iniesta and Xavi on their books. Do you think taking over Barcelona is comparable to taking over the post-Wenger Arsenal? Moreover, do you seriously think Arteta is comparable to Guardiola?


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What has happened to Exiled? Bernard do you know? You used to meet up at bar 101, seen him lately?


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