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Post #497281  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:58 pm 
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I mean there’s players out there on a couple of hundred grand a week. You could sign more committed players on half that and get more out of them.

It’s just a sin blowing it this way


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5-4 to The Arsenal. You heard it here first. Call your bookies.

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Post #497283  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:58 pm 
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I mean there’s players out there on a couple of hundred grand a week. You could sign more committed players on half that and get more out of them.

It’s just a sin blowing it this way


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Post #497284  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:02 pm 
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I said I would watch but it’s on. It’s another clear penalty on Lacazette not given. It boils my blood when you see what salah gets pens for compared to what Lacazette doesn’t.

He was offside but that wasn’t given so the ref is just judging the pen. Awful just like the one at home to palace


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Post #497285  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:09 pm 
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Here’s my bottom half of the league 11 that would be more of a threat away from home
Heaton
Wan bissaka
Bertrand
Maguire
Lascelles
Milivojevic
Rice
Fraser
Zaha
Maddison
Wilson
I like that team


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Post #497286  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:14 pm 
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Rich wrote:
Here’s my bottom half of the league 11 that would be more of a threat away from home
Heaton
Wan bissaka
Bertrand
Maguire
Lascelles
Milivojevic
Rice
Fraser
Zaha
Maddison
Wilson
I like that team

.Nice one Rich...funnily enough I was going to try the same exercise..but only using one player from each of the bottom 11 teams...when I get a spare hour i’ll try it...


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Post #497287  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:14 pm 
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The problem is the manager ... we've got Wenger Mark 2 .

Told Granty Boy this after the Palace defeat .

We pass backwards and sideways so often , our every attack is faced with a nice organised wall of defenders by comparison the opposition attack at pace and that is why we look all over the joint .
Emery has shown no sign of curing this fault .

We take a corner and under the slightest of pressure the ball is back with our keeper :1cry:

72 % possession , 8 shots ... none on target ..... right out of the Wenger archives


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Post #497288  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:15 pm 
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At least City are winning


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Post #497289  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:17 pm 
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Andy Green wrote:
Rich wrote:
Here’s my bottom half of the league 11 that would be more of a threat away from home
Heaton
Wan bissaka
Bertrand
Maguire
Lascelles
Milivojevic
Rice
Fraser
Zaha
Maddison
Wilson
I like that team

.Nice one Rich...funnily enough I was going to try the same exercise..but only using one player from each of the bottom 11 teams...when I get a spare hour i’ll try it...

I realised I cheated by having Leicester players who are 10th. Will need to bring in a Brighton defender and maybe almiron from Newcastle to play in the hole.....or arnautovic


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Post #497290  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:18 pm 
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Nketiah has done more in 3 mins that Iwobi and Mkhitaryan combined.

I’d be all for playing him and Willock in remaining away games. At least if they sh*t the bed they are young and can learn from it


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Post #497291  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:23 pm 
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Easy 4 on 3 break for wolves. We attack and it’s 3 on 7.

I ask this question far too often, but how on earth can we be consistently outnumbered when defending and attacking within the same minute of play!?

Workrate is terrible.

I really hope Emery is silently making nite of all this and anyone who has shown they aren’t willing to pull their weight in every game just gets unceremoniously dumped in the summer


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Post #497292  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:24 pm 
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1 back Sokratis.

Wolves show they can be rubbish at defending a set piece as well


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Post #497293  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:24 pm 
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Holy cr@p. Been out. Just got back in to check the score. Worse than I could ever have imagined.

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Post #497294  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:28 pm 
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I mean with our away record the scoreline should not be a surprise. What’s really troubling is that despite a strong Arsenal team it sounds like we have been uncompetitive even with the chance of getting top 4.


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Post #497295  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:28 pm 
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If I calm down and look at the bigger picture of the game we’re once again talking about things that are hard to legislate for.

Leno has been fantastic most of the season but drops 2 absolute ricks to cost us two goals.

Indodual mistakes always costing us


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Post #497296  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:31 pm 
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Amazingly this terrible Man U team could get top 4.

If they can pull together 1 good performance and beat Chelsea, they then have Cardiff and Huddersfield in their last two. Win all 3 and they’ll almost certainly nick 4th!


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Other than for financial reasons there’s really not much point in us being in the Champions League next season.

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Post #497298  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:36 pm 
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long time gooner wrote:
Other than for financial reasons there’s really not much point in us being in the Champions League next season.


I agree


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Post #497299  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:38 pm 
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Why are we so awful at winning fouls and at the same time so dumb and easy to lure a cheap foul out of?


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Post #497300  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:38 pm 
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Time to throw the league, blood more youngsters and focus squarely on the Europa. Better from Guendouzi today, Nketiah has been bright. Lacazatte has worked really hard, and actually our centre-halves weren't too bad today. Xhaka was poor but his set pieces were excellent. No-one else gets any credit at all.

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Post #497301  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:39 pm 
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5-4 to The Arsenal. You heard it here first. Call your bookies.


Over 2 legs if we had a cup tie with them. :42laughter:

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Post #497302  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:43 pm 
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lomekian wrote:
Time to throw the league, blood more youngsters and focus squarely on the Europa. Better from Guendouzi today, Nketiah has been bright. Lacazatte has worked really hard, and actually our centre-halves weren't too bad today. Xhaka was poor but his set pieces were excellent. No-one else gets any credit at all.

You are assuming Europa is the easier competition. :42laughter:

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Post #497303  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:45 pm 
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4th is pretty much dead, but not because we’re reliant on others. More because we can’t win away- not even close.
Well probably get just 3 more point this season.
Need Man U to draw with Chelsea which puts Man U a point behind and Chelsea 2 points in front. Our game in hand would be Leicester away!


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Post #497304  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:46 pm 
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Despite Emery’s progress were miles away from where we need to be


New left back
New centre back
Better competition for Bellerin at right back
New midfielder (Ramsey)
2 new wide players


Massive summer ahead


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Post #497305  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:51 pm 
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All of the other sides left in the Europa cup are about 5th or so in their respective leagues. It's not going to be easy. I was surprised the Napoli tied went that easy. Even if we do win it, and if we win it collapsing in the league the rest of the way, it won't feel right. Maybe lifting a European trophy will change that feeling but right now, I feel we don't deserve it. That said, it would break my heart if we lost to Chelsea in the final, assuming both clubs go through.

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Post #497306  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:52 pm 
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TOP GUN wrote:
Despite Emery’s progress were miles away from where we need to be


New left back
New centre back
Better competition for Bellerin at right back
New midfielder (Ramsey)
2 new wide players


Massive summer ahead

Whole new defence really. Van Dijk turned Liverpool from awful to great. We need a signing like him who will organise on the pitch because no one else at the club on or off the field seems able to organise it


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AmericanGooner wrote:
lomekian wrote:
Time to throw the league, blood more youngsters and focus squarely on the Europa. Better from Guendouzi today, Nketiah has been bright. Lacazatte has worked really hard, and actually our centre-halves weren't too bad today. Xhaka was poor but his set pieces were excellent. No-one else gets any credit at all.

You are assuming Europa is the easier competition. :42laughter:


Not in the slightest. But it is still within our hands to determine. Obviously if results go our way this weekend and we beat Leicester and rivals lose, then priorities shift again.

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lomekian wrote:
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You are assuming Europa is the easier competition. :42laughter:


Not in the slightest. But it is still within our hands to determine. Obviously if results go our way this weekend and we beat Leicester and rivals lose, then priorities shift again.

Plus we would only have to play 1 ‘away’ game


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Post #497309  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:55 pm 
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If city win their last 3, and therefore win the title by a point having won their last 14 straight it will be phenomenal.

Teams have gone on long title winning runs but not under this sort of pressure.

The same goes for Liverpool if city drop points.


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Post #497310  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:58 pm 
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Rich wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Despite Emery’s progress were miles away from where we need to be


New left back
New centre back
Better competition for Bellerin at right back
New midfielder (Ramsey)
2 new wide players


Massive summer ahead

Whole new defence really. Van Dijk turned Liverpool from awful to great. We need a signing like him who will organise on the pitch because no one else at the club on or off the field seems able to organise it


In addition to who we actually need to sign who we sell is equally as important.

I’d flog Xhaka, Mustafi and mhikitaryan in a heartbeat. They would all provide funds to reinvest


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Post #497311  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:11 pm 
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The blueprint for any future signing should be pace and power.

I think every single one of our players was weaker and slower than their opposite number today. Similar v palace.

Without pace and power we are reliant on perfect technique, passing, one touch, and brilliant off the ball movement. How many teams can do that and not need any pace or power!?

Let’s go back to a team of quick giants.


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Rich wrote:
The blueprint for any future signing should be pace and power.

I think every single one of our players was weaker and slower than their opposite number today. Similar v palace.

Without pace and power we are reliant on perfect technique, passing, one touch, and brilliant off the ball movement. How many teams can do that and not need any pace or power!?

Let’s go back to a team of quick giants.


Few teams have mastered the Barca tippy tappy model, and even they had a genius and two of the best midfielders of all time in their side.

City are giving it a good go though.


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Post #497313  Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:16 pm 
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The other issue in this squad is who gets the goals when times are tough in games.
Where are our players who help us counter and dribble the ball 50 yards, beat a man and curl it in the corner. I get those players are very special but every team in the top 6 and teams below have someone like that. We don’t.
Pace and power in desperate need


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Rich wrote:
The blueprint for any future signing should be pace and power.

I think every single one of our players was weaker and slower than their opposite number today. Similar v palace.

Without pace and power we are reliant on perfect technique, passing, one touch, and brilliant off the ball movement. How many teams can do that and not need any pace or power!?

Let’s go back to a team of quick giants.


We definitely need to play with more pace and urgency, we are so slow and predictable.


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Rich wrote:
The other issue in this squad is who gets the goals when times are tough in games.
Where are our players who help us counter and dribble the ball 50 yards, beat a man and curl it in the corner. I get those players are very special but every team in the top 6 and teams below have someone like that. We don’t.
Pace and power in desperate need



Yep. We have no players who can conjure a worldclass individual goal out of nothing in the way a Hazard or Salah can.


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I think tonight was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Tonight was cowardly and we don't deserve top four.


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Wolves record v the top 6
W5 D4 L3
I’d take that v the other 5 and 7th

What has been our excuse all these years.

It used to be money. Now there are just well drilled, well run and well managed teams who prove year in and year out that whilst money helps you can certainly build a competitive team on a budget


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Rich wrote:
The blueprint for any future signing should be pace and power.

I think every single one of our players was weaker and slower than their opposite number today. Similar v palace.

Without pace and power we are reliant on perfect technique, passing, one touch, and brilliant off the ball movement. How many teams can do that and not need any pace or power!?

Let’s go back to a team of quick giants.


Few teams have mastered the Barca tippy tappy model, and even they had a genius and two of the best midfielders of all time in their side.

City are giving it a good go though.

Yep, and city are absolutely packed with pace
Walker, Mendy, Laporte, Sterling, Sane, aguero
Master dribblers
Sterling, Sane, Mahrez, Silva, b.silva, De Bruyne
And power
All 4 CB, Fernandinho, Walker, Mendy

Bernardo Silva has been quite brilliant this season, he’s been as good as De Bruyne was last and has replaced him perfectly.


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More of the same bs we saw under Wenger.

It's not the manager.

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Rich wrote:
lomekian wrote:

Not in the slightest. But it is still within our hands to determine. Obviously if results go our way this weekend and we beat Leicester and rivals lose, then priorities shift again.

Plus we would only have to play 1 ‘away’ game


We suck right now We suck like a Tijuana hooker. Trust me, I know.
We look like we couldn't beat eggs right now.

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