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Post #472561  Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:12 am 

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Negotiating ploy. AW will settle for £60m.

He is after all the hottest target in the current transfer market.

I still think he'll make them a worse team........

Asking £80m for a 28 year old with thus a rapidly decreasing resale value over the course of the contract he'll sign has to be a negotiating ploy. I'd be surprised if even City would pay that for a player they could get for nothing (in terms of a transfer fee) next summer.


  
 
 
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80 million is a nice number. I'd rather keep him but even if we managed to keep him, I'm a little cool on him. I do sympathize with one of the possible reasons being the squad lacks fight. But at least leave the league instead of going to a direct rival.

80 mil gives us enough time to afford almost anyone.

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I'm a huge Game of Thrones fan. The new season starts and on one of the American forums, we were discussing the accents. I was saying how the same family has different British accents .Of course others disagreed, but I'm sure of it. Anyway, one guy who claims to know accents and said he traveled to Britain (I have my doubts), we were tyring to guess this accent. Its Lady Mormont

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Post #472564  Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:42 am 
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bubblechris wrote:
Negotiating ploy. AW will settle for £60m.

He is after all the hottest target in the current transfer market.

I still think he'll make them a worse team........

I think your right, it's quite clear we are going to sell now. I can't imagine him and sterling in the same team, play similar roles.


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Negotiating ploy. AW will settle for £60m.

He is after all the hottest target in the current transfer market.

I still think he'll make them a worse team........

I think your right, it's quite clear we are going to sell now. I can't imagine him and sterling in the same team, play similar roles.

I think we should sell, having got into this situation with his contract we haven't really got much choice. But I disagree that he'll make them a worse team - he's a world class player on a different level to the likes of Sterling. He'll make them better.


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With regards to transfers Wengers comment about only bringing 2 in is clearly wrong. We've got lacazette and clearly want Lemar but if look at the following.

Ox and jack will need to sign new deals now or leave the club
Debuchy is in Leicester this weekend joining them on a free.
Jenkinson is being let go
Giroud looks to be off to Everton.
Chesney and ospina look likely to go?
What's going to happen with chambers?
Gibbs has been left off the tour to find a new club.

So as a bare minimum in addition to the 2 players in Lacazette and lemar I'd expect a new goalkeeper and a player who can cover right back coming in at the very least. I think the ox situation will resolve itself but if it doesn't we will need to also bring in a versatile midfielder.

Don't be surprised if there's another 3 new signings.


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along the lines of your first post will Lukaku make Rashford better or Martial?

Will anyone in the man city forwards appreciate the arrival of the child Sanchez?

Are you serious?


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The cricket is shaping up interestingly. 331 to win. 50/50?

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The cricket is shaping up interestingly.

First time for everything I suppose.


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Lemar also in!


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Manchester United star Wayne Rooney confirms transfer back to Everton

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/manchester-city-star-wayne-rooney-confirms-transfer-back-to-everton/news-story/85cd20662a639630fa821b9faf494ab2


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Lemar also in!

Latest news I've seen news saying we put in a 3rd bid and but the Sun says he will sign. Not sure what the exact news is but it seems we are serious and think we will get him. I like him a lot. A wee bit more than Mahrez as I've noted earlier. A bit more pace and power than Mahrez. But I'd love to have either.

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The question is has AW learnt his lesson and is now a new man. Will anything be any different on Friday 11th August?

Will we all be thinking wow what a team or will we all be wondering when we're going to lose our first game and what will then follow?

Interesting times ahead.......................


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...I do sympathize with one of the possible reasons being the squad lacks fight...
Really? Like City have been tigers over the last few seasons! Its nothing to do with fight, but all about money. Give him his reputed demand of 400k a week and see how he'll kiss that Arsenal badge.

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Post #472575  Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:56 pm 

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The cricket is shaping up interestingly. 331 to win. 50/50?

Paddy Power here, borrowing Bernard's computer. I've just made a note never to employ Decaf as one of my odds-setters.


  
 
 
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One things for sure we should be top of the league after we thrash Leicester on the opening day of the season.


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Post #472577  Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:00 pm 

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One things for sure we should be top of the league after we thrash Leicester on the opening day of the season.

I'm unsure how sure it is we'll thrash Leicester. I'd be happy with a one goal win.


  
 
 
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...I do sympathize with one of the possible reasons being the squad lacks fight...
Really? Like City have been tigers over the last few seasons! Its nothing to do with fight, but all about money. Give him his reputed demand of 400k a week and see how he'll kiss that Arsenal badge.

Indeed. His wage demands were too much for Bayern. If it was about anything apart from.money he would be with them now.

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One things for sure we should be top of the league after we thrash Leicester on the opening day of the season.

I'm unsure how sure it is we'll thrash Leicester. I'd be happy with a one goal win.
Me too. In the Premier League the idea that we should thrash anybody is fanciful.

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The cricket is shaping up interestingly. 331 to win. 50/50?
I thought England might need a 400 lead to be certain of the win, but it quite literally turned out easier than that. Although most of the good fortune went to Root's team, South Africa were well short. And they weren't even playing with ze handbrake on.

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Really? Like City have been tigers over the last few seasons! Its nothing to do with fight, but all about money. Give him his reputed demand of 400k a week and see how he'll kiss that Arsenal badge.

Indeed. His wage demands were too much for Bayern. If it was about anything apart from.money he would be with them now.
City probably need him more than we do, so maybe they will cough up the appalling salary and a juicy transfer fee. I hope so anyway.

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Alrighty then.... :7laughter:


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old man of hoy wrote:
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If Lukaku is worth £75m then surely Sanchez is worth more than that.

Should Wenger/Arsenal hold out for more?
£50m now or nothing next summer? Too risky to delay. There is only one way to go - and I say Geronimo.

Stick to the dominoes in the church hall , high stakes poker is never going to be your forte .

I reckon there is a bit of wriggle room , they haven't quite got us over the barrel .

Talks stall and we have Sanchez for another year not ideal ; but Citee with the biggest budget in the world are also going nowhere if they don't strengthen so their need to buy is on a par with our need to offload .

They offer 50 ...we say 80 ...and settle for 58 .... think of it with that extra 8 million we can search for a replacement for Sanogo .


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They offer 50 ...we say 80 ...and settle for 58 .... think of it with that extra 8 million we can search for a replacement for Sanogo .
Yes, for 8 mil we could even get the young French midfield maestro, Ouesta Monet.

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John wrote:
Decaf wrote:
The cricket is shaping up interestingly.

First time for everything I suppose.

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First time for everything I suppose.

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I'm not THAT bothered about Sanchez. He's been great for us but I don't love him and find him quite annoying sometimes - there is something about the downward turn of his mouth that I find unprepossessing as well as that habit of scrunching up his shorts at free-kicks. Hoy is right - choosing City over Bayern tells you everything about his ambition which is largely to put as many pesos in his account before returning to a comfortable retirement as an icon in Chile like Zamorano and Salas before him. They come. They go. Only players I would be sad to see leave now are Ramsey, Iwobi, and Giroud - and the latter only because it makes me and my son laugh when Mrs Daz says "oh look there's Olivier Giroud" when she sees him on TV during games.

Funny. how nobody is discussing Özil!


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Quinton de Kock should surely be flying Sopwith Camels over Flanders - he seems to have jumped eras.


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I'm not THAT bothered about Sanchez. He's been great for us but I don't love him and find him quite annoying sometimes - there is something about the downward turn of his mouth that I find unprepossessing as well as that habit of scrunching up his shorts at free-kicks. Hoy is right - choosing City over Bayern tells you everything about his ambition which is largely to put as many pesos in his account before returning to a comfortable retirement as an icon in Chile like Zamorano and Salas before him. They come. They go. Only players I would be sad to see leave now are Ramsey, Iwobi, and Giroud - and the latter only because it makes me and my son laugh when Mrs Daz says "oh look there's Olivier Giroud" when she sees him on TV during games.

Funny. how nobody is discussing Özil!


Thats an interesting observation. Mesut finished the season quite badly and it seems funny how everyone is talking about sanchez but not Özil leaving. He's a funny player Özil, i don't know wether he's overhyped or over rated or under appreciated. He will always have an element who does like him.

I think he will sign a new contract and if he doesn't i'm not really fussed if he went. If sanchez doesn't go this summer i think he could sign a new contract during the season. Hell be 30 not this December but one after and next summer he won't be getting 4 year 300k a week contract offers then if he's about to turn 30


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They offer 50 ...we say 80 ...and settle for 58 .... think of it with that extra 8 million we can search for a replacement for Sanogo .
Yes, for 8 mil we could even get the young French midfield maestro, Ouesta Monet.


Hearing really good things about the young Lithuanian Spünkit Awåe but I think Chelsea might be in for him.


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Post #472591  Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:26 am 

Chelsea's new German signing is an Arsenal fan. I was quite impressed with Rudiger when he played in the Confederations Cup.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... l-10741310


  
 
 
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you know Johnny Boy's views on cricket and with him in mind I watched half an hour of gaelic football this morning ...... quite good viewing can't help thinking it would be better if they had a few rules .


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...you know Johnny Boy's views on cricket...
Yes if somebody really wanted to spoil John's birthday a present of a book of cricket poems would probably do the trick.

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Daz wrote:
Quinton de Kock should surely be flying Sopwith Camels over Flanders - he seems to have jumped eras.
It is hard not to let the sillier side of my mind get the better of me over that name. Must have been a trial for him at school - almost as uncomfortable as playing Moeen on a bunsen.

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Daz wrote:
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Yes, for 8 mil we could even get the young French midfield maestro, Ouesta Monet.


Hearing really good things about the young Lithuanian Spünkit Awåe but I think Chelsea might be in for him.
Yes, once again Wenger has failed miserably in the transfer market. Even if he signs the Brazilian prodigy Sheeton Leggs, as is being widely rumoured, that will not compensate for letting Chelski get to Spunkit first.

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Chelsea's new German signing is an Arsenal fan. I was quite impressed with Rudiger when he played in the Confederations Cup.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... l-10741310
Is that the same Rudiger who collapsed in mortal agony in the penalty area after Hernandez tickled his belly?

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Bernard wrote:
Chelsea's new German signing is an Arsenal fan. I was quite impressed with Rudiger when he played in the Confederations Cup.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... l-10741310
Is that the same Rudiger who collapsed in mortal agony in the penalty area after Hernandez tickled his belly?

Not sure I understand what you're getting at. It can't be an insinuation that he was acting, as Germans don't do that. The conclusive proof for that being Michael Caine, the greatest actor in the history of the world, was born in Rotherhithe which isn't in Germany.


  
 
 
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you know Johnny Boy's views on cricket and with him in mind I watched half an hour of gaelic football this morning ...... quite good viewing can't help thinking it would be better if they had a few rules .


Yes I watched that as well - pleased to see the Wicks sneak past the Meaths by a slender 6.2 x 39 (x = sin y) against 9 (6.2 π)


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Sets up a grand auld final against The Burrens - I'm just after packing a rasher sandwich and my she-wee for the train.


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Daz wrote:
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you know Johnny Boy's views on cricket and with him in mind I watched half an hour of gaelic football this morning ...... quite good viewing can't help thinking it would be better if they had a few rules .


Yes I watched that as well - pleased to see the Wicks sneak past the Meaths by a slender 6.2 x 39 (x = sin y) against 9 (6.2 π)

Indeed. You should be on the Sky Sports coverage to explain it to your fellow Saxons, Daz.

More importantly, Cork won the Munster Hurling Championship yesterday.

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