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Post #416801  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 8:51 am 
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It's classless and embarrassing. Chelsea's tweet just shows what a tin pot classless club they are. Arteta and Arsenal have won and lost with dignity, some of those in the media have showed themselves up as nothing more than hateful trolls.

It’s strange how much stock teams and players place in their hatred of Arsenal. I’ve seen so many posts immediately after the game of teams and individual players putting pictures up with their own champions league. Or trolling Arsenal players. It’s mad.

Can you ever imagine Arsenal’s official channel doing the same? My long term prediction is if it continues in such a high profile way then someone is going to go too far and snap and it will spill over from just words over the internet.

Even that City fan fella who had the bottle, he’s been online complaining about his own mental health because Arsenal fans are giving him pelters. If you put yourself up there to be shot at…. Give it but can’t take it etc etc

I saw Stan Collymore (I know I know) on Twitter just outright type ‘cry more you c*nt’ to a random Arsenal fan. Collymore also posts himself an advocate for mental health on his profile. How and why is Collymore so angry against us to feel the need to do that?

The whole season has just been bizarre in this regard


If you spend the day after a CL final scanning social media to see nasty things others might say about your club you definitely you need help with your mental health. Certain of our fans are an embarrassment, whining about how the refs are against us and we are refed differently. I have seen many articles asking why are fans are so unpopular and I don't think I've ever seen articles about any other club. That said I don't give a ****. The club itself and Mikel have always conducted themselves well and that's what matters.

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https://x.com/BwoyFinex/status/2060830454756827257?s=20

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Post #416803  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 9:04 am 
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Reading Times today - coverage is very positive and congratulatory to Arsenal overall

I think Arteta got it spot on - if we'd have played openly and offensively we would have been picked off like Bayern and Areta would have been slaughtered

As it was we restricted PSG to a handful of clear cut chances and could easily have nicked the win on another day


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Post #416804  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 9:32 am 
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PSG were quite lucky to be in the final. They should have been down to 10 men for a deliberate handball by Mendes when already on a yellow v Bayern in the semi. Could/would have had a massive effect on that tie.

Refs decisions decide games. It’s not to say they are wrong decisions, just that a huge majority of controversial or big decisions can be 50/50 subjective calls. You need them to go your way


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Post #416805  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 9:35 am 
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Reading Times today - coverage is very positive and congratulatory to Arsenal overall

I think Arteta got it spot on - if we'd have played openly and offensively we would have been picked off like Bayern and Areta would have been slaughtered

As it was we restricted PSG to a handful of clear cut chances and could easily have nicked the win on another day

Nice to hear some rational analysis. Bayern went toe to toe in a basketball match and got beaten. Liverpool sat off and defended and got beaten. For anyone criticising they should be asked how they would try to beat PSG.

Arsenal gave PSG their toughest game in 2 years in terms of restricting anything they could do.

The only time PSG actually looked dangerous was when pushed forward and had tired legs late in when they countered us 3 times.


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Post #416806  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 9:50 am 
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The media coverage of the two ?penalties is somewhat revealing

For me, they are both penalties in context of modern game and what has been given this year in CL

kvaratskhelia engineers it, Mosquera gets ball through kvaratskhelia, so by letter of law it's a foul and penalty, however in many media quarters it's not been subject to much objective scrutiny like the Madueke one, as kvaratskhelia does clearly jump into Mosquera and does not really have much intention of getting onto the ball, he wants the penalty

Madueke was kicked from behind and then bundled down, the analysis claiming it was one sided and Madueke committed the foul by pulling Mendes down it biased and one eyed - Mendes clearly is wrong side and kicks back of Madueke before they tussle each other -the fact that Mendes is wrong side mean he should not have any right to make a challenge and should have let Madueke through, as much of a clear penalty as PSG's for me

Hackett called this right - however much of mainstream media seem to have lazily sucked up UEFA's narrative on this, which is poor imho


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Post #416807  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 9:54 am 
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1979gooner wrote:
The media coverage of the two ?penalties is somewhat revealing

For me, they are both penalties in context of modern game and what has been given this year in CL

kvaratskhelia engineers it, Mosquera gets ball through kvaratskhelia, so by letter of law it's a foul and penalty, however in many media quarters it's not been subject to much objective scrutiny like the Madueke one, as kvaratskhelia does clearly jump into Mosquera and does not really have much intention of getting onto the ball, he wants the penalty

Madueke was kicked from behind and then bundled down, the analysis claiming it was one sided and Madueke committed the foul by pulling Mendes down it biased and one eyed - Mendes clearly is wrong side and kicks back of Madueke before they tussle each other -the fact that Mendes is wrong side mean he should not have any right to make a challenge and should have let Madueke through, as much of a clear penalty as PSG's for me

Hackett called this right - however much of mainstream media seem to have lazily sucked up UEFA's narrative on this, which is poor imho


Mosquera was a lucky boy. He was on a yellow and many refs would have shown a second for that foul.

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Post #416808  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 9:55 am 
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Gunfire wrote:
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The media coverage of the two ?penalties is somewhat revealing

For me, they are both penalties in context of modern game and what has been given this year in CL

kvaratskhelia engineers it, Mosquera gets ball through kvaratskhelia, so by letter of law it's a foul and penalty, however in many media quarters it's not been subject to much objective scrutiny like the Madueke one, as kvaratskhelia does clearly jump into Mosquera and does not really have much intention of getting onto the ball, he wants the penalty

Madueke was kicked from behind and then bundled down, the analysis claiming it was one sided and Madueke committed the foul by pulling Mendes down it biased and one eyed - Mendes clearly is wrong side and kicks back of Madueke before they tussle each other -the fact that Mendes is wrong side mean he should not have any right to make a challenge and should have let Madueke through, as much of a clear penalty as PSG's for me

Hackett called this right - however much of mainstream media seem to have lazily sucked up UEFA's narrative on this, which is poor imho


Mosquera was a lucky boy. He was on a yellow and many refs would have shown a second for that foul.


that's one view, I think it's nonsense, total nonsense to be honest - it was a very mild foul and not every foul is a yellow card, despite the PSG morons pressuring the ref


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Post #416809  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 11:26 am 
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Gunfire wrote:
1979gooner wrote:
The media coverage of the two ?penalties is somewhat revealing

For me, they are both penalties in context of modern game and what has been given this year in CL

kvaratskhelia engineers it, Mosquera gets ball through kvaratskhelia, so by letter of law it's a foul and penalty, however in many media quarters it's not been subject to much objective scrutiny like the Madueke one, as kvaratskhelia does clearly jump into Mosquera and does not really have much intention of getting onto the ball, he wants the penalty

Madueke was kicked from behind and then bundled down, the analysis claiming it was one sided and Madueke committed the foul by pulling Mendes down it biased and one eyed - Mendes clearly is wrong side and kicks back of Madueke before they tussle each other -the fact that Mendes is wrong side mean he should not have any right to make a challenge and should have let Madueke through, as much of a clear penalty as PSG's for me

Hackett called this right - however much of mainstream media seem to have lazily sucked up UEFA's narrative on this, which is poor imho


Mosquera was a lucky boy. He was on a yellow and many refs would have shown a second for that foul.

It’s very clear in the rules that what he did isn’t a yellow. There is a very specific rule for this exact situation.
https://x.com/dalejohnsonbbc/status/206 ... -j6VVZXEoA
If ‘many refs’ would have given him a second yellow then all those refs would not have been following the rules.


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Post #416810  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 11:29 am 
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If Mosquera was deemed to deny a clear goalscoring opportunity then it could have been a yellow. You can’t get a red for DOGSO when it’s a penalty if you’ve made a genuine attempt for the ball.
However the covering defender means it isn’t DOGSO, so it can only be ‘stopping a promising attack’ and that carries a yellow card EXCEPT when a penalty is awarded then it isn’t a yellow.
Law 12 is very clear on this.

End any debate about Mosquera being lucky to not get a second yellow.


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Post #416811  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 11:34 am 
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That City fan with the bottle has come back out again and had a go at Arsenal and Eze and Gabriel. He is the epitome of the worst type of football fan that social media has spawned.

Takes more delight in trolling rivals than supporting his own team, whined about his mental health when people have it back to him then jumped straight back on his narrative as soon as the chance came.

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ffs champions league final, Put your foot through it Ebs




aregggh.

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Post #416813  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 11:40 am 
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Time to look forward to an England exit from the World Cup and the key players to blame universally will be Rice and Saka. I’ll come back and revisit this when it happens


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Post #416814  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 11:45 am 
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We’ve had some heartbreak in finals. Penalty shoot outs, 10 men.

There are some teams that get to finals and seem to win them regularly and consistently being the worst team.

This is our time now. We need to use this to fire us. We’ve got the consistency - all our rivals are with new managers and some of them may be finally punished for their rampant cheating.

Go and win it again next year Arsenal


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Rich wrote:
Time to look forward to an England exit from the World Cup and the key players to blame universally will be Rice and Saka. I’ll come back and revisit this when it happens

Or, you could save yourself some agitation and not get irritated about something that hasn't happened yet - and maybe won't. Life as an Arsenal fan is stressful enough, without imagining disasters ahead. I think you need a week's holiday, Rich. I know I do...

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Post #416816  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 1:24 pm 
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1979gooner wrote:
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Mosquera was a lucky boy. He was on a yellow and many refs would have shown a second for that foul.


that's one view, I think it's nonsense, total nonsense to be honest - it was a very mild foul and not every foul is a yellow card, despite the PSG morons pressuring the ref


A yellow would imo have been harsh but referees frequently give yellows for fouls in the penalty box that result in penalties.

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Getting so emotional, as parade went pased first my old school then the house whdre i was brought up, happy days.coyg.


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Rich wrote:
That City fan with the bottle has come back out again and had a go at Arsenal and Eze and Gabriel. He is the epitome of the worst type of football fan that social media has spawned.

Takes more delight in trolling rivals than supporting his own team, whined about his mental health when people have it back to him then jumped straight back on his narrative as soon as the chance came.

I despise so much of what football fans have become now.


indeed - hence why deleting social media is a very good thing for one's wellbeing


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Getting so emotional, as parade went pased first my old school then the house whdre i was brought up, happy days.coyg.


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Rich wrote:
If we want to tackle the most difficult problem then I think it’s Ødegaard. He has lost nearly all his goal threat and lacks physicality and athleticism. His injuries haven’t helped but if we’re being honest there is a clear upgrade that can happen at the tip of our attacking midfield.
Do you give the keys to Eze - who feels up and down or trust Nwaneri (needs a lot of off the ball work) or go and get Rogers and play him there??!

I agree. Ødegaard has become our biggest problem. It isn't nice to say but he was a passenger yesterday. He was sort of leading a press but never even tried to impose himself on the game. You can't have your captain and supposed creative hub dissappear in a CL final. Mikel should have subbed him off a lot earlier.

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If we want to tackle the most difficult problem then I think it’s Ødegaard. He has lost nearly all his goal threat and lacks physicality and athleticism. His injuries haven’t helped but if we’re being honest there is a clear upgrade that can happen at the tip of our attacking midfield.
Do you give the keys to Eze - who feels up and down or trust Nwaneri (needs a lot of off the ball work) or go and get Rogers and play him there??!

I agree. Ødegaard has become our biggest problem. It isn't nice to say but he was a passenger yesterday. He was sort of leading a press but never even tried to impose himself on the game. You can't have your captain and supposed creative hub dissappear in a CL final. Mikel should have subbed him off a lot earlier.


This is concerning - it fits with his general decline in output over last 2 seasons - his best season being 2023/24

I wonder how much comes down to being overplayed and injuries

The issue is particularly worrying when players start to get a bit older, as you always suspect this may be part of a terminal decline - I think we are seeing players get past their peak way earlier now, than 2 decades ago, as the game is way faster and generally a higher intensity (better teams and more intense within matches)

I really worry about Saka, as his form has been really average for him, and he is carrying injury and he really badly needs a proper rest, and to be rotated more

The players are being properly flogged in the modern game - you see that in players like Havertz/White/Jesus having grumbling knee issues (arthritis relating to previous meniscal and joint injuries) which are harder to get through when the intensity of games and fixtures is so high


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Rich wrote:
We’ve had some heartbreak in finals. Penalty shoot outs, 10 men.

There are some teams that get to finals and seem to win them regularly and consistently being the worst team.

This is our time now. We need to use this to fire us. We’ve got the consistency - all our rivals are with new managers and some of them may be finally punished for their rampant cheating.

Go and win it again next year Arsenal

Feeling really gutted today. We contained them so well, and almost performed the perfect mugging. Losing on a penalty shootout is hard to swallow.

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1979gooner wrote:
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I agree. Ødegaard has become our biggest problem. It isn't nice to say but he was a passenger yesterday. He was sort of leading a press but never even tried to impose himself on the game. You can't have your captain and supposed creative hub dissappear in a CL final. Mikel should have subbed him off a lot earlier.


This is concerning - it fits with his general decline in output over last 2 seasons - his best season being 2023/24

I wonder how much comes down to being overplayed and injuries

The issue is particularly worrying when players start to get a bit older, as you always suspect this may be part of a terminal decline - I think we are seeing players get past their peak way earlier now, than 2 decades ago, as the game is way faster and generally a higher intensity (better teams and more intense within matches)

I really worry about Saka, as his form has been really average for him, and he is carrying injury and he really badly needs a proper rest, and to be rotated more

The players are being properly flogged in the modern game - you see that in players like Havertz/White/Jesus having grumbling knee issues (arthritis relating to previous meniscal and joint injuries) which are harder to get through when the intensity of games and fixtures is so high

Very concerning. Look at Jesus. Over the hill by the time he was 28. I was really expecting Saka and Odegaardto step up yesterday and although they did their bit they are so far off their best that you worry if they will ever get back there..

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Decaf wrote:
Rich wrote:
We’ve had some heartbreak in finals. Penalty shoot outs, 10 men.

There are some teams that get to finals and seem to win them regularly and consistently being the worst team.

This is our time now. We need to use this to fire us. We’ve got the consistency - all our rivals are with new managers and some of them may be finally punished for their rampant cheating.

Go and win it again next year Arsenal

Feeling really gutted today. We contained them so well, and almost performed the perfect mugging. Losing on a penalty shootout is hard to swallow.


the anger and frustration has been replaced by a rather empty feeling, glum


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Decaf wrote:
1979gooner wrote:

This is concerning - it fits with his general decline in output over last 2 seasons - his best season being 2023/24

I wonder how much comes down to being overplayed and injuries

The issue is particularly worrying when players start to get a bit older, as you always suspect this may be part of a terminal decline - I think we are seeing players get past their peak way earlier now, than 2 decades ago, as the game is way faster and generally a higher intensity (better teams and more intense within matches)

I really worry about Saka, as his form has been really average for him, and he is carrying injury and he really badly needs a proper rest, and to be rotated more

The players are being properly flogged in the modern game - you see that in players like Havertz/White/Jesus having grumbling knee issues (arthritis relating to previous meniscal and joint injuries) which are harder to get through when the intensity of games and fixtures is so high

Very concerning. Look at Jesus. Over the hill by the time he was 28. I was really expecting Saka and Odegaardto step up yesterday and although they did their bit they are so far off their best that you worry if they will ever get back there..


it's be interesting to look at the data on this - I bet we're seeing players retire a bit younger and drop off down the leagues a bit younger - plus I bet the performance data shows declining stats from the mid 20s too

You can get away with it and actually experience can make up for it in certain positions, goalkeeping and centre back for example, sometimes CF who drops into the no10 role too (Kane) - however in areas where you need the legs, very few players are staying elite into their 30s these days


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It’s strange how much stock teams and players place in their hatred of Arsenal. I’ve seen so many posts immediately after the game of teams and individual players putting pictures up with their own champions league. Or trolling Arsenal players. It’s mad.

Can you ever imagine Arsenal’s official channel doing the same? My long term prediction is if it continues in such a high profile way then someone is going to go too far and snap and it will spill over from just words over the internet.

Even that City fan fella who had the bottle, he’s been online complaining about his own mental health because Arsenal fans are giving him pelters. If you put yourself up there to be shot at…. Give it but can’t take it etc etc

I saw Stan Collymore (I know I know) on Twitter just outright type ‘cry more you c*nt’ to a random Arsenal fan. Collymore also posts himself an advocate for mental health on his profile. How and why is Collymore so angry against us to feel the need to do that?

The whole season has just been bizarre in this regard


If you spend the day after a CL final scanning social media to see nasty things others might say about your club you definitely you need help with your mental health. Certain of our fans are an embarrassment, whining about how the refs are against us and we are refed differently. I have seen many articles asking why are fans are so unpopular and I don't think I've ever seen articles about any other club. That said I don't give a ****. The club itself and Mikel have always conducted themselves well and that's what matters.

I’m reading social media to see what Arsenal fans and journalists are saying about us and the final - these people point out things other people are saying.
If we’re looking for people who are embarrassment to the Arsenal fan base I’d start a bit closer to home…..


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1979gooner wrote:
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That City fan with the bottle has come back out again and had a go at Arsenal and Eze and Gabriel. He is the epitome of the worst type of football fan that social media has spawned.

Takes more delight in trolling rivals than supporting his own team, whined about his mental health when people have it back to him then jumped straight back on his narrative as soon as the chance came.

I despise so much of what football fans have become now.


indeed - hence why deleting social media is a very good thing for one's wellbeing

Yes but then you’d be reliant on Sky and bbc sport for football update and opinion - which might be worse. At least there are some people worth listening to if you drown out the sea of nonsense of social media


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Time to look forward to an England exit from the World Cup and the key players to blame universally will be Rice and Saka. I’ll come back and revisit this when it happens

Or, you could save yourself some agitation and not get irritated about something that hasn't happened yet - and maybe won't. Life as an Arsenal fan is stressful enough, without imagining disasters ahead. I think you need a week's holiday, Rich. I know I do...

The problem with messages on a forum rather than having the conversation in person is people will read your tone how they want rather than how you mean it. I’m far from agitated, just being a cynic and pointing out something I think might happen and laughing at the ridiculousness of it all if it does.


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It’s laughable that some people are trying to make out that it’s actually Madueke who is the offender here. I’d challenge anyone to look at this still and guess who is most likely to foul who next, or who is already fouling….look at Mendes knee in to the back of Madueke’s knee. It’s a staggeringly bad decision…..and make no doubt if we’d done that and conceded a penalty there would be absolute zero sympathy for any of our defenders doing that from pundits, commentators, and even our own fans.


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Rich wrote:
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Or, you could save yourself some agitation and not get irritated about something that hasn't happened yet - and maybe won't. Life as an Arsenal fan is stressful enough, without imagining disasters ahead. I think you need a week's holiday, Rich. I know I do...

The problem with messages on a forum rather than having the conversation in person is people will read your tone how they want rather than how you mean it. I’m far from agitated, just being a cynic and pointing out something I think might happen and laughing at the ridiculousness of it all if it does.


Rich - ignore it - people just use this as a lame duck tactic to try to shut down opinions they don't like as they have no rational argument - the fake concern for someone else's wellbeing is a classic way in which trolls try to wind people up and it's hardly subtle

totally agree re the nonsense arguments that Madueke fouled Mendes - the tussle was after Madueke had been clobbered from behind on the back of his leg.....from a player who was in no position to challenge for the ball and who knew any contact should be a penalty


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It’s laughable that some people are trying to make out that it’s actually Madueke who is the offender here. I’d challenge anyone to look at this still and guess who is most likely to foul who next, or who is already fouling….look at Mendes knee in to the back of Madueke’s knee. It’s a staggeringly bad decision…..and make no doubt if we’d done that and conceded a penalty there would be absolute zero sympathy for any of our defenders doing that from pundits, commentators, and even our own fans.

Yup. That really rankles. Madueke is past him and he flatten him. The rest is detail.

Wasn't Dec captain when he was booked for protesting? Isn't a captain allowed to ask?

The ref was absolutly terrible in the second half.

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It’s laughable that some people are trying to make out that it’s actually Madueke who is the offender here. I’d challenge anyone to look at this still and guess who is most likely to foul who next, or who is already fouling….look at Mendes knee in to the back of Madueke’s knee. It’s a staggeringly bad decision…..and make no doubt if we’d done that and conceded a penalty there would be absolute zero sympathy for any of our defenders doing that from pundits, commentators, and even our own fans.

Yup. That really rankles. Madueke is past him and he flatten him. The rest is detail.

Wasn't Dec captain when he was booked for protesting? Isn't a captain allowed to ask?

The ref was absolutly terrible in the second half.


totally

if you bother to watch it in detail like an obsessed weirdo (like many of us) - the BBC pundit explanation is exposed as totally wrong

Madueke is hit hard on back of his leg on the line of the penalty box - the only debatable thing is whether it's in our out of box - the tussle and 'Madueke tugging Mendes' (wrong imho as they both do a bit of tussling) comes way way later and after the initial foul from behind


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Post #416833  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 5:47 pm 
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Any idea why the ref blew in that incident when Timber was about to shoot? I was struggling to keep up by that stage and my feed had switched to what sounded like Russian.

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Post #416834  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 6:00 pm 
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Decaf wrote:
Any idea why the ref blew in that incident when Timber was about to shoot? I was struggling to keep up by that stage and my feed had switched to what sounded like Russian.


Hand to the face of Joao Neves, who went down like a tonne of bricks. Ref let loads go then immediately stopped a really promising attack. He was a prick right from the second half.

HOWEVER, I wish we never started this taking our time bollocks :8angers: especially at throw ins, it’s backfired on us so many times, and actually rather than controlling the game and giving us a breather, I feel like it signals to the whole team to become super passive in our play and calls-on the other team. One evolution for Arteta, as well as the attacking side, is to actually enact the strategic 10,000 passes mode he spoke about doing earlier in his tenure and “manage” games that way.


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Post #416835  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 6:04 pm 
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Ash wrote:
Decaf wrote:
Any idea why the ref blew in that incident when Timber was about to shoot? I was struggling to keep up by that stage and my feed had switched to what sounded like Russian.


Hand to the face of Joao Neves, who went down like a tonne of bricks. Ref let loads go then immediately stopped a really promising attack. He was a prick right from the second half.

HOWEVER, I wish we never started this taking our time bollocks :8angers: especially at throw ins, it’s backfired on us so many times, and actually rather than controlling the game and giving us a breather, I feel like it signals to the whole team to become super passive in our play and calls-on the other team. One evolution for Arteta, as well as the attacking side, is to actually enact the strategic 10,000 passes mode he spoke about doing earlier in his tenure and “manage” games that way.

100% agree. When we start that we tend to lose control not to mention irritating the officials.

Mosquera's yellow for doing that was the height of stupidity (collective stupidity given that it was clearly a plan) given who he was up against.

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Post #416836  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 6:04 pm 
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Well played Arsenal - not much to split the two best teams in Europe. When it gets to a shootout it's really not about football anymore - Lady Luck has her say. So many good things about our club right now, not least the re-bonding with the fans. Ødegaard is a beautiful footballer - surely his days are not done?

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Post #416837  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 6:33 pm 
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https://x.com/aukolar/status/2061010265 ... -j6VVZXEoA

By the way no one had a single problem with this time Mendes barged through the back of an Arsenal player, a free kick was given to Arsenal. I hate that when routine fouls happen in the penalty area there is a way they can’t analyse it like any other foul on the pitch. There is a higher threshold bar that doesn’t appear in the rules.


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Post #416838  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 6:36 pm 
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Rich wrote:
https://x.com/aukolar/status/2061010265257189589?s=46&t=fkwaCrtFB5yR-j6VVZXEoA

By the way no one had a single problem with this time Mendes barged through the back of an Arsenal player, a free kick was given to Arsenal. I hate that when routine fouls happen in the penalty area there is a way they can’t analyse it like any other foul on the pitch. There is a higher threshold bar that doesn’t appear in the rules.


Oh do shut up you whinger. We lost and deserved it unfortunately. We did not do nearly enough and nit picking every decision is nonsense.

For an antidote to Rich and 1979gooners mewling ...............................................
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... pions-bus/

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Such was the scale of it all, the authorities were soon requesting that fans spread out across the bus route, amid fears that too many bodies were congregating in certain areas.

Arsenal, of course, have always been a big club. They are England’s third most successful team and the most successful side in London. But the scenes following their title victory have provided a startling reminder of the emotional hold they have over so many different people in the capital and beyond.

Fans of Arsenal come from all sorts of economic and cultural backgrounds. The supporter base includes the Prime Minister, the Mayor of New York, City financiers and too many celebrities to list, but also huge swathes of working class communities in north London and beyond. The Emirates Stadium crowd is perhaps more middle-class than most Premier League grounds, but that is not the case for the wider fanbase in London.

For the black community, especially, Arsenal has long been the club of choice for many. Arsenal’s connection with black identity is perhaps stronger than any other British club, in large part because of the many black players who have been stars at Highbury and the Emirates Stadium.


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For much of this season, for various reasons including their style of play, Arsenal have been loudly disliked by dissenting neutrals. Some clubs would find such a scenario worrying. Thankfully for Arsenal, they have no need for the affections of these neutrals. They are receiving more than enough of it from their reawakened and recharged fanbase.


Precisely.

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Post #416839  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 6:36 pm 
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Decaf wrote:
Ash wrote:

Hand to the face of Joao Neves, who went down like a tonne of bricks. Ref let loads go then immediately stopped a really promising attack. He was a prick right from the second half.

HOWEVER, I wish we never started this taking our time bollocks :8angers: especially at throw ins, it’s backfired on us so many times, and actually rather than controlling the game and giving us a breather, I feel like it signals to the whole team to become super passive in our play and calls-on the other team. One evolution for Arteta, as well as the attacking side, is to actually enact the strategic 10,000 passes mode he spoke about doing earlier in his tenure and “manage” games that way.

100% agree. When we start that we tend to lose control not to mention irritating the officials.

Mosquera's yellow for doing that was the height of stupidity (collective stupidity given that it was clearly a plan) given who he was up against.

This is why media narrative is important. We’ve been highlighted as the chief protagonist for time wasting, and it being an irritation on the game - officials are going to really clamp down on this so we need to be smart next year and ahead of the game. Of course small team taking an age over free kicks away to big teams won’t receive punishment as the too many like the playing field to be levelled


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Post #416840  Posted: Sun May 31, 2026 7:11 pm 
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funny how those who troll use it as a way of shoehorning their narrow minded views and avoiding open debate

to those with open minds, Rich is quite astute to remark upon the role of the media bias driving false narratives which turn so called neutral fans

we see the same in political coverage, in that the biased use of language and biased coverage can influence overall opinion

the reasons underlying these biases are clearly complex and multifaceted- however trying to shut down an interesting strand of discussion in this domain is nothing but trolling


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