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Post #480241  Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:22 am 
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TOP GUN wrote:
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I don't think Özil is staying.


Then your saying we can compete for the title with Aaron playing the number ten role?

On the basis he's scored 32 goals in his career now aged 27 if keeps up this strike rate he could finish his Arsenal career on around 50/60 goals depending on his time of retirement or being sold off. This is about a third of what Frank Lampard scored at Chelsea and their games were similar as based on making runs into the box and movement rather than passing attributes.

Therefore Ramsey is a third of the player Lampard was. You don't win titles with players of this type being your focal midfielder


We have very good players but are underperforming. Likes of Ramsey, Lacazette, and Xhaka can shine in a proper set up. So too Wilshere, Welbeck, Bellerin and the rest.

With Özil and Sanchez, the current squad should really be finishing higher than 6th and competing for the title. Without them, a top four finish should not be beyond the current players. Problem is Wenger has not been able to motivate the players and organize them as a cohesive unit.


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Post #480242  Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:36 am 
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Matt Law just tweeted ...

Sums up Wenger’s strange management that Iwobi gets caught partying but is set to play for Arsenal against Chelsea tonight - some punishment, that.



Microcosm of the last decade under Wenger


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Post #480243  Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:38 am 
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Instructions from buying club to rest him?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/arsenal-injury ... ks-1654526


Looks that way I mean he misses very difficult matchs up north and didn't play at the weekend. He's clearly micro managing what games he's playing in.

Chelsea put out a decent side tonight and we are liable to get hammered


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Some info on mooted target, Pavon. It's probably bollocks but some good goals in there regardless.

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In 2017, he was selected to the Argentina national team for friendlies against Russia and Nigeria. He had an impressive debut against Russia, assisting Sergio Aguero on the only goal of the game. He made another assist for Aguero to score against Nigeria that ultimately ended in a 4-2 loss.

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Post #480245  Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:07 am 
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I’m encouraged by talk of a clear out, coq out for £10-12m, a few prem clubs wanting Walcott....both good sales. Elneny, Chambers, debuchy all need to go. Simply replace those 5 who are first team

Indeed. Selling dross and replacing them with quality players. What a novel idea. Arsene?

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I’m encouraged by talk of a clear out, coq out for £10-12m, a few prem clubs wanting Walcott....both good sales. Elneny, Chambers, debuchy all need to go. Simply replace those 5 who are first team

Indeed. Selling dross and replacing them with quality players. What a novel idea. Arsene?


Hopefully it's a sign of the power drain away from him. Either that, or someone's whacked him over the head.

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Post #480247  Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:23 pm 
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Surge of Ancelloti rumours...


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Post #480248  Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:18 pm 
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There'll be no forgiving the mad professor if he plays a weak team tonight.

This is a semi final of a cup he has never won, anything short of a strong first team will be unforgivable.


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Post #480249  Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:25 pm 

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Indeed. Selling dross and replacing them with quality players. What a novel idea. Arsene?

Hopefully it's a sign of the power drain away from him. Either that, or someone's whacked him over the head.

I'll believe it when I see it.


  
 
 
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Timing of this Ancellotti stuff is interesting.

The standard seem to have ran the "exclusive" and it's the day of a semi final where we are probably going to take a complete hammering with Wenger likely to get both barrels if it goes wrong. Timing just seems very weird.

Wether he would be the right choice is another question.


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Not sure I can even remember any rumours about new managers for Arsenal. I think the only ones I've seen are rumours about who might replace Wenger when he decides to step aside.


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Not sure I can even remember any rumours about new managers for Arsenal. I think the only ones I've seen are rumours about who might replace Wenger when he decides to step aside.


We're in the end game it's obvious. Too many big media outlets reporting this. A hammering tonight and we might see the pace pick up even more...

In any case the tanks are moving. This is the last season I am sure of it.


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Not really sure about Carlos Ancelotti, though at this point I would obviously not be against it. He’s been at a lot of big clubs and won a lot of trophies, but most of those teams were pretty much set when he arrived. His best period for me was with Milan when they reached the Champions League final three times in five seasons (and should’ve won all three). That team was largely built by Ancelotti as well.


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Post #480254  Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:54 pm 

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Not really sure about Carlos Ancelotti, though at this point I would obviously not be against it.

Judging by the job he did at Bayern Munich, I wouldn't be thrilled if Ancelotti came to Arsenal. The only reason I wouldn't be against it is he isn't Wenger, which is the same reason I wouldn't be against anyone.


  
 
 
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Bernard wrote:
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Not really sure about Carlos Ancelotti, though at this point I would obviously not be against it.

Judging by the job he did at Bayern Munich, I wouldn't be thrilled if Ancelotti came to Arsenal. The only reason I wouldn't be against it is he isn't Wenger, which is the same reason I wouldn't be against anyone.


Owen Coyle?

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Post #480256  Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:19 pm 

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Judging by the job he did at Bayern Munich, I wouldn't be thrilled if Ancelotti came to Arsenal. The only reason I wouldn't be against it is he isn't Wenger, which is the same reason I wouldn't be against anyone.
Owen Coyle?

Anyone, even my wife's auntie who knows next to nothing about football.


  
 
 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
AW: 'Irena will be conducting internal searches for drugs for the next 2 months. ' All Iwoba hears before fainting is the sound of an extra large pair of gloves being stretched over Irenas chubby fingers.

Reminds me of my last doctors visit. After the prostate exam the doctor left the room.
Then the nurse walked in and says "Who was that ? "


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Wenger moves upstairs and Mourinho becomes manager. That would be the greatest comedy show on earth and would top trumps presidency in terms of hysterical turmoil


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But actually my first choice wouldn't be Ancellotti. I would go for a younger hungrier type Allegri, Vieira or Simeone would be a dream and absolutely what's required. Somebody who kicks every ball


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Daz wrote:
Surge of Ancelloti rumours...


Told you yesterday, he's back at Chelsea in the summer, lump on.

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Parkerknoll Gooner wrote:
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Surge of Ancelloti rumours...


Told you yesterday, he's back at Chelsea in the summer, lump on.

What makes you so sure of that Parkerknoll?


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Lump on?


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TOP GUN wrote:
But actually my first choice wouldn't be Ancellotti. I would go for a younger hungrier type Allegri, Vieira or Simeone would be a dream and absolutely what's required. Somebody who kicks every ball

Although a great player, I'd prefer someone more experienced than Vieira to take over. He'd be a bit of a punt - although if it's him or Wenger, I'd take him.


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john1 wrote:
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Judging by the job he did at Bayern Munich, I wouldn't be thrilled if Ancelotti came to Arsenal. The only reason I wouldn't be against it is he isn't Wenger, which is the same reason I wouldn't be against anyone.


Owen Coyle?

Tim Sherwood...Andre Villas-Boas? :1laughter:

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Daz wrote:
Lump on?


In slang it means bet big mate.

There's no sexual connotation which is probably what your focussed on


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Parkerknoll Gooner wrote:

Told you yesterday, he's back at Chelsea in the summer, lump on.

What makes you so sure of that Parkerknoll?


Same person that told me last august that Van Dyke would be moving to Liverpool in January.

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TOP GUN wrote:
But actually my first choice wouldn't be Ancellotti. I would go for a younger hungrier type Allegri, Vieira or Simeone would be a dream and absolutely what's required. Somebody who kicks every ball

Allegri and Jardim if we want young managers who play attacking football. Simeone if we want a cross between Conte and mourinho - would sort our defence and play on the counter.
Vieira and Arteta may have great careers ahead of them but not ready for us and the job after wenger.


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There'll be no forgiving the mad professor if he plays a weak team tonight.

This is a semi final of a cup he has never won, anything short of a strong first team will be unforgivable.

Will wenger do his usual tactics, ignore the defence and off the ball and go for a basketball style game like the emirates.....which considering the chances we have Chelsea was amazing we got out with a 2-2 in the end. Or will wenger do what he’s only done a handful of times in his arsenal career and realise this is a 2 leg knock out completion, we’re ravaged with injuries and bad form and decide to make sure we stay in the tie at half time?

We’ve been out of the tie at half time in all our recent 2 legged matches


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Rich wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
But actually my first choice wouldn't be Ancellotti. I would go for a younger hungrier type Allegri, Vieira or Simeone would be a dream and absolutely what's required. Somebody who kicks every ball

Allegri and Jardim if we want young managers who play attacking football. Simeone if we want a cross between Conte and mourinho - would sort our defence and play on the counter.
Vieira and Arteta may have great careers ahead of them but not ready for us and the job after wenger.

Arteta non, Patrick wee

I wouldn't mind Conte, he runs around his technical area like a little ferret. It's great to watch if you have seen Chelsea

I think we need mass change and revolution. I'd prefer not an Ancellotti type who has been there done and won it


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Sanogo has scored for Toulouse
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Parkerknoll Gooner wrote:
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What makes you so sure of that Parkerknoll?


Same person that told me last august that Van Dyke would be moving to Liverpool in January.

I'll have a little dabble then ☺


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Sanogo has scored for Toulouse
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Somewhere a bear is saying "I'm not sh1%%&ng in these woods"


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Sanchez on the bench tonight. He's off.


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Sanchez on Bench according to BBC


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Two stongest line-ups tonight bar Sanchez.

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Sanchez on the bench tonight. He's off.

Tenner says we don't bring him on even if we're losing Brom


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Jack is our captain because we are a mess.


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Iwobi, Mustafi and Chambers at the back

Soz should read Holding but team's out now anyway


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Ospina; Chambers, Mustafi, Holding; Bellerin, Wilshere, Xhaka, Maitland-Niles; Iwobi, Welbeck; Lacazette


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Iwobi, Mustafi and Chambers at the back

So Iwobi's punishment for his late night partying is another start. No repercussions, wenger is terrified of conflict. Nelson should have started if he wanted to bench sanchez.

If wenger plays his normal way leaving that fragile back 3 exposed we're in for a hammering. wing backs need to hold back. Wilshere to play alongside Xhaka when out of possession. Stay solid and hope the front 3 might do something special or wait for set pieces.

Not optimistic at all.


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