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Post #517841  Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:01 pm 
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Absolute bloody rubbish.


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Post #517842  Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:01 pm 
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Was actually thinking at 0-0 if we get a late winner from a corner or something it would be great for our league position, but it would also be papering over the cracks a bit. Arteta surely must see our attack isn't anywhere near where it needs to be?


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Post #517843  Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:02 pm 
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I am not feeling hopeful watching our recent matches. Harder to beat but very little attacking threat.

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Post #517844  Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:03 pm 
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Unbelievable the amount of space that we left Vardy in our penalty area. Just tactically rubbish.

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Post #517845  Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:04 pm 
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Dear oh dear.


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Post #517846  Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:04 pm 
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A lot to think about for Arteta tonight.
The 3 in midfield seemed right considering Leicester would pick the midfield. But with Leicester so deep one of them had to be properly released.
The Lacazette and Aubameyang problem needs to be fixed. The first half was much better in attack but we’re wasting chances.


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Post #517847  Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:05 pm 
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When we’re frustrated we can’t ever seem to get a call from the ref. Tillman’s throwing himself around is a free kick every time, he’s buying them off the ref so easily


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Rich wrote:
A lot to think about for Arteta tonight.
The 3 in midfield seemed right considering Leicester would pick the midfield. But with Leicester so deep one of them had to be properly released.
The Lacazette and Aubameyang problem needs to be fixed. The first half was much better in attack but we’re wasting chances.


Bloody embarassing tonight Rich.

Few players come away with any credit at all


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Rich wrote:
A lot to think about for Arteta tonight.
The 3 in midfield seemed right considering Leicester would pick the midfield. But with Leicester so deep one of them had to be properly released.
The Lacazette and Aubameyang problem needs to be fixed. The first half was much better in attack but we’re wasting chances.

Additional problem is that we aren’t creating many either. Neat, tidy and ineffective.

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Post #517850  Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:08 pm 
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Feels like such a missed opportunity. The whole prem is in a bit of disarray this season. You can not afford to be so weak in these sorts of games. It’s a massive blow to what we’ve been doing.

It’s no good being much better defensively if we can’t score.

Once again awful set pieces


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Post #517851  Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:08 pm 
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Simply not good enough in the last 3rd.

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Another one of Xhaka’s stupid rugby tackle pull backs


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Problem is in midfield imo. Xhaka, Partey & Ceballos. One too many imo.


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Another one of Xhaka’s stupid rugby tackle pull backs

With 5 seconds left. Still rather dodgy in game management.

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We really stank the place out in the second half. Dreadful.


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Problem is in midfield imo. Xhaka, Partey & Ceballos. One too many imo.


Yes your right.

You have 3 midfield players who just want to sit.

Even when we are chasing the game they aren’t getting up to support the attack. unless David Luiz finds a miracle pass or Tierney crosses a beut we won’t score.


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So what is the consensus on the disallowed goal. I haven’t seen the slow motion replays. Are we allowed to feel unjustly treated by the officials AND bemoan the awful performance of the arsenal players?


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Emery out!


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Rich wrote:
So what is the consensus on the disallowed goal. I haven’t seen the slow motion replays. Are we allowed to feel unjustly treated by the officials AND bemoan the awful performance of the arsenal players?

I saw the replays and it was a goal all day long.


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I am really pissed off with that.

Arteta still cannot find a formation that gets us going offensively.

Lacazette stunk the place out and was left on far too long.

Ceballos was nowhere to be seen, Xhaka was running in treacle as always, Partey was anonymous.

I was hoping for Pépé to come on but when he did he reminded me of just what a headless chicken he is.

Gabriel did ok defensively but his passing became more and more wayward as the game progressed.

Playing Xhaka as a left back is just mindless when the opposition have pacy forwards who enable them to transition incredibly quickly.


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Is there anything more frustrating than having a 95th minute corner, a last chance to salvage a point and the corner taker hits the first man. Pépé! Just awful.
Didn’t we hire a set piece specialist this summer. How can professional footballers not consistently hit a simple corner in to what is really a very large target zone which is the just wider than the width of the goal and between 6 and 15 yards out? Pépé hitting the first man and others firing one 20 yards too far to drift out for goal kicks. Soul destroying


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Rich wrote:
So what is the consensus on the disallowed goal. I haven’t seen the slow motion replays. Are we allowed to feel unjustly treated by the officials AND bemoan the awful performance of the arsenal players?

I saw the replays and it was a goal all day long.

They said Xhaka was impeding the keeper so he was active and offside but they were 2 yards apart when the ball came off Lacazette's head.


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Post #517863  Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:18 pm 
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£72 million paid for Pépé???? I give up.


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Was that pretty much our best 11 out there? For all the problems we can see in that game what changes can be made?
Pépé, willian can come in on the attacking side but neither has set the world alight.
Who else comes in to midfield? What else is better in defence?

Some serious questions for Arteta.


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I am really pissed off with that.

Arteta still cannot find a formation that gets us going offensively.

Lacazette stunk the place out and was left on far too long.

Ceballos was nowhere to be seen, Xhaka was running in treacle as always, Partey was anonymous.

I was hoping for Pépé to come on but when he did he reminded me of just what a headless chicken he is.

Gabriel did ok defensively but his pasing became more and more wayward as the game progressed.

Playing Xhaka as a left back is just mindless when the opposition have pacy forwards who enable them to transition incredibly quickly.


I saw a growler.


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Started well then just faded badly.
Where is the intensity and creativity.
I cant stand Vardy with a passion.
So *%^@*** inevitable he would come on and punish us if we didnt score.
Does it every *%^@*** time
Rat faced *%^@.


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Post #517867  Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:21 pm 
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thofman wrote:
£72 million paid for Pépé???? I give up.

I’m sorry mate that ones not on him


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A lot of our players are just genuinely not good enough for anything else but top 6 with an outside chance of top 4.

The midfield lacks creativity, pace and has no goal threat.

Lacazette is finished as a top level CF.

Mustafi came on and showed exactly why we need an upgrade.

Aubameyang cannot be expected to get us out of trouble in almost every game.

Oh for the days the thing we moaned about was creating a million chances and not finishing them and us needing a fox-in-the box :laughing7:


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One shot in the whole second half. You can scream endless abuse at Our front 3 but they are isolated and working off scraps. I’m sorry it’s not working.

Arteta is being too cautious, he needs to do something progressive with his midfield like play partey and AMN as a fluid base and Saka as a spare 10.


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Only saw the first 20 & last 25 minutes. Leno played ok. Otherwise you could see why Leicester were beaten by Westham & Aston V. I don’t understand what style Arteta is trying to play. Will watch the other part of the game later because I want to see Partey & our midfield.

I think we would be more effective with 4-5-1 with Partey and Eleneny Saka Willian and one other in the midfield. Our current structure is lacking.

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One shot in the whole second half. You can scream endless abuse at Our front 3 but they are isolated and working off scraps. I’m sorry it’s not working.

Arteta is being too cautious, he needs to do something progressive with his midfield like play partey and AMN as a fluid base and Saka as a spare 10.


I am genuinely wondering if there is actually any combination of the players we have that would work. Some are just too *%^@ for what we would like see the team do.

I can't believe I am saying this but could Özil actually be any worse, at least he passes the ball crisply and accurately.


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Just seen the Lacazette disallowed goal. The telling thing for me is not one Leicester player is appealing for offside. Xhaka is not between the Gk and the ball, it doesn’t touch him it is a good goal.
I really don’t think we’ve had the rub of the green with VAR since it was introduced. I’d say that goes down alongside the palace goal from Sokratis last year where a good goal is scored and it’s taken off us.

It has a massive effect on the game.

We were awful second half and deserved what we got but that is also a terrible decision by var to rob us of a lead in that game. Which considering Leicester were happy sitting in would have forced them to chase the game more.


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Lacazette is finished as a top level CF.

I was really disappointed with Lacazette’s half-hearted attempt to get on the end of Tierney’s cross in the first 45 minutes. He seemed too concerned about the defender near him. John Radford would have got his nut on it to score twenty times out of twenty. I don’t think Lacazette has one-tenth of Radford’s courage.


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socrates wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
One shot in the whole second half. You can scream endless abuse at Our front 3 but they are isolated and working off scraps. I’m sorry it’s not working.

Arteta is being too cautious, he needs to do something progressive with his midfield like play partey and AMN as a fluid base and Saka as a spare 10.


I am genuinely wondering if there is actually any combination of the players we have that would work. Some are just too *%^@ for what we would like see the team do.

I can't believe I am saying this but could Özil actually be any worse, at least he passes the ball crisply and accurately.


Arteta is going to need to do something. Play Willian, Saka or AMN as a attacking midfielder. Those 3 midfielders today had zero interest in supporting the attackers.

Againest city ceballos had a 91% pass completion rate in a game where we were chasing the lead that shows two things. One his passing wasnt adventurous enough and two he plays within himself


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The stats show so much of the game going to Xhaka rather than Partey. Xhaka received nearly double the passes Partey did.

Arteta simply has to be braver now. He’s got away with it in a few games but now there has to be more risk going forward. Especially when we’re well on top in games.

Lacazette’s mids was awful, as bad as var ruling out our goal. He’s 2 yards out he has to just let it hit him and it’s in, it skins his head and deflects wide. He’s in a rut. Aubameyang needs to be played centrally. Bring in Nelson on one of the wings. We need
To try something different now.

We’ll surely beat Dundalk at home but I can see us having less than 10 shots at goal all game.


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Things that confuse me:

Fofana and Saliba were the CB pairing for St Etienne last season. Both looked equally as good.

Fofana joins Leicester and looks good, Saliba joins us and can't even get on the bench. What's that all about.


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Partey was disappointing.

Early days but comparisons with Vieira seem a long way off the mark based on that performance. It's not that he wasn't decent in possession, he just didn't really get on the ball anywhere enough to influence the game.


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Football is so crazy these days. Plenty of fans already questioning Arteta despite him having the highest win rate of any Arsenal manager.

Must admit I'm not totally convinced. I think he sets us up better defensively against the best teams but against the lesser sides we look bang average.


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Rich wrote:
The stats show so much of the game going to Xhaka rather than Partey. Xhaka received nearly double the passes Partey did.

That could of course have something to do with Xhaka being better at making himself available to receive the ball from the player previously in possession. I think we’ve both said that Xhaka can play with some intelligence.


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The most impressive ball of the night was the Leicester player who crossed to Vardy and it was pin point perfect. Saka and Aubameyang seem the only players we have that could replicate that IMO. There are others who can cross the ball into dangerous areas but they are inconsistent and don’t give balls that are on the spot.

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