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Post #508081  Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:43 am 
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They have bought and sold incredibly well, have a well defined system of play and whilst they have been fortunate with the timing of some of their sales and purchases they have developed and integrated their purchases spectacularly well into their system.

Morning Soc,
This website is great for the instant review of all transfers a club has made
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-live ... /verein/31
Everyone knows about the huge amount Countinho sale bought in and what it allowed Liverpool to do but even more impressive for me (as it is more sustainable rather than the 1 off one in a generation sale) has been their ability to move on squad players for fantastic sums
£20m for Ings, £19m for Solanke, £12m for Danny Ward, £16m Ibe, £13m Joe Allen, £25m Benteke, £25m Sahko, £10m Borini even getting a £5m loan fee for Origi. All that is more than the £140m they got for Coutinho


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Milivojevic is suspended for our trip to Palace - he's scored a few pens against us recently. Palace have a raft of injuries as well. Couldn't ask for a better time to play them next saturday


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Rumor is Man Utd are after Zaha. Weren't they after him a few years ago?

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Rumor is Man Utd are after Zaha. Weren't they after him a few years ago?

They weren’t just after him. Manchester United actually had Zaha a few years ago. He didn’t do enough there for them to keep him.


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That Clarkson is a real laugh isn’t he. It’s sad when people totally lose their way in life.

Thankfully there are genuine people like OMOH who posted the other day about the fires.

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We've had some nasty ones in the Eastern Cape but the ones in Australia and California have been truly horrific. I hope you get a proper change of weather soon.

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Post #508086  Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:58 am 
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When someone you haven’t blocked replies to and quotes the post of another member you have blocked, would you see the copies in yellow of the original post by the person you have blocked as well as the one by the individual you haven’t blocked?

Yes indeed.

I've blocked him as well, but gooner7 replied to his post, so you can see it in yellow

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So Gooner 7, OHOM, Socrates and Gunfire can be regarded as our resident spirit mediums, allowing a shadowy connection to the plane of being where American Gooner exists, and vice-versa?

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They were forced to sell Coutinho and Suarez. The genius (with a bit of luck) is how they replaced those players and stayed competitive, even better.

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:laughing7: that's better I've put the American tossbag on foe .... brilliant ... I don't have to look at avalanche of copy and paste .

Warrior any chance I could take over the admin when you go on holiday ..... just run me through the routine for banning people . :icon_mrgreen:

I object ... I think all that power would go to Kiwi's head and he'd end up invading Iran or something equally silly.

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Post #508089  Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:11 am 
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If this Mirror article is true, Arteta could well be losing any support that Top Gun currently has for him.

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Post #508090  Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:15 am 
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Walcott doesn’t look as quick as he once was either. No big shock I guess as he is approaching his 31st birthday. Without pace, even at his peak Theo would arguably have been a Brighton and Hove Albion level player. So it’s probably not too surprising if he hasn’t done that well at Everton.


That's completely unfair. As you know I've always rated Walcott and...nah...can't keep that up even for a gag.

He had everything needed to be a great footballer except for any understanding of how to play football so he just did everything by numbers. I felt you could always see it in his crossing - so often he'd cross with lovely contact and perfect body shape but to a completely different point to where it was needed. But he looked good and his supporters complained no one was there.

I did used to think there was something deliberate and almost snidey in him and his playing up to the fans but I think it more likely he's just been doing absolutely everything by numbers.


I said before that Walcott was/is an instinct player. His problem is that when he has to think about what he's doing, he invariably messes up.

He was capable of some fantastic moments, but these were usually instinctual.

A vastly overrated and overpaid player.

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Rumor is Man Utd are after Zaha. Weren't they after him a few years ago?


Jesus.

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Bernard wrote:
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Rumor is Man Utd are after Zaha. Weren't they after him a few years ago?

They weren’t just after him. Manchester United actually had Zaha a few years ago. He didn’t do enough there for them to keep him.


You beat me to it.

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Trump's tenure was always bound to result in something like this. He's quite mad. God knows how bad this will be.

He has the latest escapade spot on. The head of the Al Quds mob should always have a target on his back.

Regardless of how bad a guy he was, I can't see how the cost-benefit analysis pans out here. I would be very surprised if Trump does either. I'm travelling through Doha next week and feeling a tiny bit nervous about it!

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The Arsenal today in 1922 having a day off with an Aussie boxer.


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Post #508095  Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:43 pm 
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Greeny wrote:
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He was capable of some fantastic moments, but these were usually instinctual.

A vastly overrated and overpaid player.

His fantastic moments were pure luck.
The most overrated player we have ever had.
An utter moron. AmericanGooner level.

But slightly above your level.

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Post #508096  Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:45 pm 
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Selling Walcott for £20m was one of the better decisions we’ve made in the transfer market recently. I’ve not seen him have a good game since he left us.

Walcott doesn’t look as quick as he once was either. No big shock I guess as he is approaching his 31st birthday. Without pace, even at his peak Theo would arguably have been a Brighton and Hove Albion level player. So it’s probably not too surprising if he hasn’t done that well at Everton.

He played more times for us than Henri did. Pretty damning.

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Going to manage my expectations for this match. Arteta can't play a full strength squad but has to try to win the game in earnest. I'm assuming it will be a low scoring match. Hopefully not a draw if replays are going to happen. I don't know that for a fact, the cup rules have changed over the years.

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If this Mirror article is true, Arteta could well be losing any support that Top Gun currently has for him.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... newsletter


To be honest Bernard he wouldn't lose my support as I know he's just buying time until he can bring in more quality replacements.

Mikel has just come from City whose midfielders display energy and work rate than puts Xhaka in the shade. I trust Arteta on this one, he will know he's not the way forward. Also he hasn't been hurt by many of the players yet in his few games in charge if you know what I mean. Wait till mustafi jumps in with both feet in the box or Xhaka fails to track back or Özil starts putting in lethargic performances again and Arteta will feel the same frustrations we all have in recent seasons.


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With the exception of Chelsea, the next few league games should yield some decent points for us assuming we maintain a similar level we have seen under Mikel. Not expecting to win them all but at least start getting more points than we have been getting. I'm also not expecting any losses other than the Chelsea match possibly until we see City.

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Post #508100  Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:28 pm 
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Greeny wrote:
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He was capable of some fantastic moments, but these were usually instinctual.

A vastly overrated and overpaid player.

His fantastic moments were pure luck.
The most overrated player we have ever had.
An utter moron. AmericanGooner level.


Harsh Greeny but probably fair. For me, this was his by far his finest moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhcsjXyStmk

One of the all-too-few few occasions when he actually looked like a player.


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Post #508101  Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:44 pm 
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Live on the beeb tonight, so for those of us in the UK at least, no scraping around for streams. Tonight is going to be a challenge for, presumably, an under strength side. Mind you, expect Leeds to rest a few as well given that their big priority is promotion.


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Decaf wrote:
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:laughing7: that's better I've put the American tossbag on foe .... brilliant ... I don't have to look at avalanche of copy and paste .

Warrior any chance I could take over the admin when you go on holiday ..... just run me through the routine for banning people . :icon_mrgreen:

I object ... I think all that power would go to Kiwi's head and he'd end up invading Iran or something equally silly.

:icon_mrgreen: Whatever for..? I've got no argument with the Iranians

Moving an extra ten million Mexicans , Nicaraguans , Guatamalans into Los Angelos has a lot of appeal though ...you want to be a sanctuary city .... be my guest .

This should be a damn good game this morning neither my Spark Sport or Fan Pass seem to be showing it ....anyone posting a link would be appreciated.


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Post #508103  Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:51 pm 
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Why do they have to have the bleeding draw before all the games have been played

As nice as it is to see the lovely Alex Scott (I should never have dumped her btw but she was too clingy )can’t they wait another couple of hours

Oh well Bournmouth it is


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Some sloppy play early on from Holding and Xhaka. Leeds looking decent, don't want to give them too much encouragement.


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Haven’t struck 2 passes together yet.

Better sort themselves out quickly


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More terrible passing from Guendouzi and Luiz. We're getting dominated. And another stupid foul from Xhaka.


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When Torreira doesn’t play we always struggle. The structure goes


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Our 2 central midfielders are absolute doughnuts. 2 new midfielders required


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I feel great sympathy for Mikel ..... inherited some of the dumbest players in the league .

We are getting murdered

There is no cohesion from us ...we can't hold to the bloody ball long enough to create anything .


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If we make it to half time level we can count ourselves very lucky. But the way we've faded in the second half of recent matches doesn't bode well.


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Very sloppy half. Leeds have been good, quicker, hungrier.

Sokratis at full back throws out all the shape Mikel has worked on by tucking the RB inside to midfield to get more numbers

The balls out of defence have been too slow and nowhere near accurate enough.

Don’t think the ref is doing us any favours by letting lots go. Always favours the higher tempo high press team.

Also a gripe on offside and var. linesman keep their flags down so often, knowing that var will correct it if there is a goal - but if there isn’t a goal which is most of the time the attacking team keep the ball and pressure on when the defending team should have a free kick


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Leeds : neat, tidy and effective on the ball.

Us : careless, clueless

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Some sloppy play early on from Holding and Xhaka. Leeds looking decent, don't want to give them too much encouragement.

Set the tone badly. Holding has looked really undercooked. Nowhere near match ready. Far too slow.

One thing Mikel worked on was not trying to pass the ball when you don’t have a man on you. Arsenal are doing that when they could carry it forward more yards and commit their defence before the pass goes


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We look like a tired team. No surprise after the efforts of Chelsea and Man U.
We’re a team that are inferior to so many teams in terms of fitness, pressing, energy, mobility. We need time to change all of that

What Arteta is asking from this team is completely foreign to so many it won’t change overnight. The next 6 months are working out who can cut it and who can’t


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Don’t think the ref is doing us any favours by letting lots go.


That's reassuring .... the ref is to blame


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Don’t think the ref is doing us any favours by letting lots go. Always favours the higher tempo high press team.

Xhaka would have had a yellow after 10 mins with another ref, and would have been sent off before half time

I agree he could have had a yellow, but players on yellows don’t make the same tackles, do disagree that he could have been sent off. Xhaka May be dumb but he rarely gets sent off for 2 yellows.
The ref has let stuff go for both teams, I’m not saying he’s been biased, just that that style of reffing is not suiting us in this game. That style of reffing WOULD have suited us in the Man U game as we were the aggressive and high press, high energy team


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Well, that was fun.....outplayed by a side who look technically better, faster, stronger, fitter and more tactically astute.

It just showed how poor some of our players are under pressure.

Could be 3 down.

Guendouzi looks a shadow of the player he was a few months ago and Xhaka is back to his $@$*#y best.


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Don’t think the ref is doing us any favours by letting lots go.


That's reassuring .... the ref is to blame

Conveniently cutting out my full quote.
Didn’t say the ref is to blame. Said his style is letting lots go which favours the higher tempo, higher press and often better team. When you’re playing badly and struggling to deal with the tight marking and aggression a fussy ref is what you want.
We haven’t got close enough to Leeds to complain about fouls given against us as we’ve barely made a tackle


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We look like a tired team. No surprise after the efforts of Chelsea and Man U.

Jesus George ....they've had four days rest , some of the players are different so that's not a credible excuse .

We will win this , they haven't converted their superiority .

We seem to get nose bleeds anywhere near their penalty area . Our players seem to dither not knowing quite what to do BUT ... there will be one moment of magic a Nelson jink in to Lacazette ..WALLOP . 1 - 0


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Bit of luck for me. No tv coverage. Haven’t seen any of it but it sounds like a number of players are not putting in a shift. Have to go to work early so will not hear much after the 70 minute.

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