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Post #486481  Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 8:09 am 
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Summaries of what the papers said about our exit from Europe. Hard to disagree with a few of the comments
https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... d-14614182

I looked again at the match. In relation to the goal conceded - 5 Arsenal/2-3 Atletico players all like moths to a light in about 20yds x 20yds on one side of the field. And way over the other side Hector and 2 Atletico players. Of course Hector hadn't noticed Costa at all and so attracts warranted criticism. But it was like an under 8's game - no structure, chasing the ball. This is just so amateurish. We should never have left 2 on one in that area.

The whole game was full of sideways passes instead of fast direct defence splitting passes. Now this opposition are great defensively and we would lose the ball in at least 90% of the passes but if you are going to break them down only this will open them up. But frankly the only players at the club capable of this are Özil, Elneny(just occasionally), Ramsay - who they closed down, Joel Campbell (who knows where is is but he put a few of these thru in his few games) and maybe Mkhitaryan . Fabergas, Vierra, Bergkamph, Henry they are not. Instead we have players who get to 20 metres out and pass sideways, backwards but do not try the killer pass because they have no vision and lack the ability.

The reason Monreal and Bellerin could not get crosses in was because they create a great defensive line.

Offensively - 1 shot on target and tons missed in the first game when we should have put the tie beyond them.

Can a new manager sort this out. I think it depends on the manager but some of our players are beyond redemption. It takes 3-5 years to change culture in any organisation. A football club is probably no different - strap yourself in for a long ride. I think we will use up 1-2 managers in that time. The suggestion that a new manager has 50mil to spend is a joke. Last season Leicester, Watford, Everton, Spurs, Liverpool, Chelsea and the 2 Manchester clubs all spent more than 50mil.

I won't be tuning in to see players, critics and fans fawn over Wenger in his last game at the Emirates. I would be a hypocrite if I did. Will watch highlights or the match on demand the day after. Just glad to see the end of the season.

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Post #486482  Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 8:22 am 
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Well written piece. This bit hits nail on the head


Not winning the title? Don’t worry about it better luck next time. No longer even competing for the title now? Don’t’ worry about it better luck next time, here’s to another wage rise! Struggling to make the top four? Don’t worry about it the bank balance still looks rosy. Out of the top four and well below Spurs? No biggie we all have bad luck some times. 15 Points off the top four and struggling to finish in sixth place above the might of Burnley? No real issue there.

It really has only come to a head because 20,000 fans have started to not turn up to games on a regular basis which in turn opens the whole worlds eyes to the fact that our club has become a total joke. Panic stations everybody. The club has taken an age to make change happen not because they want on-field success but purely because the bottom line has started to take a hit with the lack of Champions League revenue and in stadium match day revenue. It looks bad on TV to the commercial partners and that is why they have let Arsene go.

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Post #486483  Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 8:23 am 
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Burnley has less losses than us.

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Post #486484  Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 8:33 am 
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Yes yes yes. Seriously *%^@*** delicious.

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Post #486485  Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 8:35 am 
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Watched a video of a Canadian hippie getting lynched in Peru - was there for the ayahuasca experience.

People saying he killed a shamen and this was, like, an ancient indigenous vengeance and therefore OK.

Only it isn't an ancient custom to film somebody being throttled with a seatbelt and upload it to the internet.

My point?

I love Britain. I love our flawed democracy and our idiot customs.

Morning Daz.
I'm sure you're feeling 1 year older this morning, but...

The incident you talk about has another angle.

The Canadian snowflake was indeed looking to learn about medicinal plants to "help" people with addictions.

He went to Peru, found a Shaman, and then went back to Canada to raise money through some crowd-funding scheme on the internet.
He then returned to Peru with $15,000, probably Canadian Dollars, and gave it to the Shaman's son.
The Shaman's son was never seen again.
The Canadian got triggered by this and threatened the family, before buying a gun "legally" and then shooting the 81 year-old woman in the chest twice.

Then "horrifically" 2 men saw/heard this and dragged him around by his neck in the mud and then hung him.
The "Law" there says that if you kill someone ( especially an 81 year old woman ) the punishment is death

https://elcomercio.pe/peru/ucayali/ases ... cia-515851
https://elcomercio.pe/peru/ucayali/fisc ... cia-516060

Now there are wanted pictures of the alleged killers, and a reward for their capture, which seems like the right thing to do.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4187717/seba ... rosecutor/

I agree that the whole "film it and upload it to the internet" is forked up, but I think that trend probably started in the USA, and there have been plenty of videos before that from the UK showing... well... all sorts!


Don't bother, Babu.
Daz thinks foreigners are savages (except where they have accepted western civilising influences) and the British are and always have been decent chaps at heart even if it doesn't always show because of course they are human and have their foibles.

He hasn't watched "The wicker man".

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Post #486486  Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 9:01 am 
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Morning Daz.
I'm sure you're feeling 1 year older this morning, but...

The incident you talk about has another angle.

The Canadian snowflake was indeed looking to learn about medicinal plants to "help" people with addictions.

He went to Peru, found a Shaman, and then went back to Canada to raise money through some crowd-funding scheme on the internet.
He then returned to Peru with $15,000, probably Canadian Dollars, and gave it to the Shaman's son.
The Shaman's son was never seen again.
The Canadian got triggered by this and threatened the family, before buying a gun "legally" and then shooting the 81 year-old woman in the chest twice.

Then "horrifically" 2 men saw/heard this and dragged him around by his neck in the mud and then hung him.
The "Law" there says that if you kill someone ( especially an 81 year old woman ) the punishment is death

https://elcomercio.pe/peru/ucayali/ases ... cia-515851
https://elcomercio.pe/peru/ucayali/fisc ... cia-516060

Now there are wanted pictures of the alleged killers, and a reward for their capture, which seems like the right thing to do.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4187717/seba ... rosecutor/

I agree that the whole "film it and upload it to the internet" is forked up, but I think that trend probably started in the USA, and there have been plenty of videos before that from the UK showing... well... all sorts!


Don't bother, Babu.
Daz thinks foreigners are savages (except where they have accepted western civilising influences) and the British are and always have been decent chaps at heart even if it doesn't always show because of course they are human and have their foibles.

He hasn't watched "The wicker man".


All well and good except don't do your usual crying trick when I kick you back starting with the observation that like your hard left counterparts over here you will excuse mass-murder if done by "revolutionaries" of which you approve.

I do think that people who beat and strangle defenceless people are backward scum wherever they are from, won't excuse it as being part of an ancient tradition or "indigenous law" (if they can master a mobile and the internet, if they are more than capable of monetising their shamanic culture, then they can master abstract principles of justice) and don't need to indulge in worship of the noble savage with the kind of orientalist "anti-Zionist" gaze that I suspect plays well on decaf's lofty balcony of abstract privileged anti-colonialism.

Equally I think Western hippies should stop whinging about their lack of spiritual fulfilment, stay away from hallucinogenic ethno-tourism in places like Ayaculi, and be happy with the many advantages they enjoy not least the rule of law which they will badly miss when it goes. The fact that he then went and shot that old woman (allegedly, we will never here his version thanks to the lynch mob) is a sign of how *%^@** up his values are - NOBODY comes well out of this horrible story and the only person I feel truly sorry is the kid back in Canada who clearly loved his dad dearly.


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And watch out with your pathetic sniffy relativism about stuff like justice, human rights, and the rule of law because you know what they say about water and wells.


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Decaf wrote:

He hasn't watched "The wicker man".


But I have seen The Straw Man.


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Post #486489  Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 9:24 am 

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He hasn't watched "The wicker man".

I have, many times in different versions. My second favourite film. Didn't enjoy the remake though.


  
 
 
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He hasn't watched "The wicker man".

I have, many times in different versions. My second favourite film. Didn't enjoy the remake though.


What's your favourite film?


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Post #486491  Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 9:48 am 
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Daz wrote:

I love Britain. I love our flawed democracy and our idiot customs. I love the fact we don't tend to lynch people. I love the fact that when injustices take place like Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence we actually have enquiries into them and sometimes things change as a result. I am not a big nationalist, I could easily live in Chile, but I think we have magnificent traditions like motorway service stations, dogs outside polling stations, and going a bit mad when it's sunny. We used to have Saturday football too but that's another story.

I've seen countries where the rule of law breaks down and people get murdered by their neighbours it really isn't pretty.


Good for you , but I'm gloriously happy I brought the kids back to the poxy little country .

My next door neighbour is a Pom , he arrived back a month ago after spending six months in England refurbishing his ailing parents' house ... he reckons England is heading downhill at a rapid rate of knots .


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I love Britain. I love our flawed democracy and our idiot customs. I love the fact we don't tend to lynch people. I love the fact that when injustices take place like Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence we actually have enquiries into them and sometimes things change as a result. I am not a big nationalist, I could easily live in Chile, but I think we have magnificent traditions like motorway service stations, dogs outside polling stations, and going a bit mad when it's sunny. We used to have Saturday football too but that's another story.

I've seen countries where the rule of law breaks down and people get murdered by their neighbours it really isn't pretty.


Good for you , but I'm gloriously happy I brought the kids back to the poxy little country .

My next door neighbour is a Pom , he arrived back a month ago after spending six months in England refurbishing his ailing parents' house ... he reckons England is heading downhill at a rapid rate of knots .


I hear this a lot to be honest but disagree. Through my job I travel all over the place and despite Silicon Valley there's some really duff parts of California that are practically like slough. Nowhere is perfect. I think Brexit is scaring many and I can't see a genuine Benefit coming from the whole thing but I think people could be getting a little carried away.

Go into London on any weekday and after 4pm find a boozer that isn't packed to the rafters.


I think reports of our demise are a little premature and whilst the tories are a nightmare, Corbyn is a dinosaur and the country is a political mess things aren't as bad as folks make out.

It's a shitehole but it's our shitehole if you know what I mean and I think people are being overly negative. (I can understand why though)


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kiwipete wrote:
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I love Britain. I love our flawed democracy and our idiot customs. I love the fact we don't tend to lynch people. I love the fact that when injustices take place like Hillsborough and Stephen Lawrence we actually have enquiries into them and sometimes things change as a result. I am not a big nationalist, I could easily live in Chile, but I think we have magnificent traditions like motorway service stations, dogs outside polling stations, and going a bit mad when it's sunny. We used to have Saturday football too but that's another story.

I've seen countries where the rule of law breaks down and people get murdered by their neighbours it really isn't pretty.


Good for you , but I'm gloriously happy I brought the kids back to the poxy little country .

My next door neighbour is a Pom , he arrived back a month ago after spending six months in England refurbishing his ailing parents' house ... he reckons England is heading downhill at a rapid rate of knots .


Yeah it's not perfect but when its everybody's whipping boy I get a bit bored of the hypocrisy and double-standards. Was in neo-liberal Chile recently, it's full of migrants from socialist Venezuela that Corbyn and his buddies still hold rallies for. Or you know going on Iranian TV to slag off Israel - that kind of thing.


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Parts of Britain and aspects of our culture and society are still fantastic - couldn't give a *%^@ if that upsets any prissy little Guevara wannabes.


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Yeah it's not perfect but when its everybody's whipping boy I get a bit bored of the hypocrisy and double-standards. Was in neo-liberal Chile recently, it's full of migrants from socialist Venezuela that Corbyn and his buddies still hold rallies for. Or you know going on Iranian TV to slag off Israel - that kind of thing.


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Having said that, if you really want British savages then you couldn't do better than Army v Navy at Twickenham.

It is an offence to my refined sensibilities - foul-mouthed drunken arseholes.


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Used to have an office in Twickenham. Take a walk down the high st there after most rugby games and you'll never let anyone tell you again it's a gentlemans sport followed by intellectuals.


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Used to have an office in Twickenham. Take a walk down the high st there after most rugby games and you'll never let anyone tell you again it's a gentlemans sport followed by intellectuals.


Oh yes. Army v Navy is a real low though. I can only take my mind off it by imagining Niall's reaction to it all


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TOP GUN wrote:
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Good for you , but I'm gloriously happy I brought the kids back to the poxy little country .

My next door neighbour is a Pom , he arrived back a month ago after spending six months in England refurbishing his ailing parents' house ... he reckons England is heading downhill at a rapid rate of knots .


I hear this a lot to be honest but disagree. Through my job I travel all over the place and despite Silicon Valley there's some really duff parts of California that are practically like slough. Nowhere is perfect. I think Brexit is scaring many and I can't see a genuine Benefit coming from the whole thing but I think people could be getting a little carried away.

Go into London on any weekday and after 4pm find a boozer that isn't packed to the rafters.


I think reports of our demise are a little premature and whilst the tories are a nightmare, Corbyn is a dinosaur and the country is a political mess things aren't as bad as folks make out.

It's a shitehole but it's our shitehole if you know what I mean and I think people are being overly negative. (I can understand why though)

I'm praying hard for the backstop solution.

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Where did this £50 million transfer bucket rumour come from. You'd think there would be a shedload more cash than that in the kitty. Especially of the expectation is that the new manager is to do better than Wenger.


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Post #486501  Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 10:39 am 

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I have, many times in different versions. My second favourite film. Didn't enjoy the remake though.

What's your favourite film?

The Ipcress File. Perhaps I've never mentioned it here before.


  
 
 
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What's your favourite film?

The Ipcress File. Perhaps I've never mentioned it here before.


Did you see they were going to remake it with Orlando Bloom playing the Michael Caine role?


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Michael Caine films shouldn't be re made, there's nobody quite like him. Did you see the remakes of Alfie, Italian job and get carter. Shocking scenes


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Casting Katy Perry as Jean is a big mistake in my book.


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Stoke gone so that's an end of season bonus.


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Bernard wrote:
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What's your favourite film?

The Ipcress File. Perhaps I've never mentioned it here before.


I think you have and I'll mention it again that it is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
Along with other turd like classics such as Blair witch project, Sixth Sense and Armageddon.


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And Im enjoying the old blighty trurrumpah. Maybe post a few Union Jacks and God save the queen for good measure.


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The Ipcress File. Perhaps I've never mentioned it here before.

I think you have and I'll mention it again that it is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Then you're a very poor judge.


  
 
 
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Rich wrote:
Wenger’s send off against Burnley is going to be awful. I think there will be a lot of the crowd who may leave before the ‘lap of appreciation’ and everything that goes with wenger’s last home game.



I certainly hope so :1laughter:


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Wenger’s send off against Burnley is going to be awful. I think there will be a lot of the crowd who may leave before the ‘lap of appreciation’ and everything that goes with wenger’s last home game.



I certainly hope so :1laughter:


It's going to all be a bit Alan Partridge isn't it ? He leaves us in a terrible state, are they expecting everyone to be wearing those "I was there when Wenger left t shirts"


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Delighted to see scummy stoke go down.
Disgusting club.
Does anyone know why they are relegated if mathematically they can still catch swansea??


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It's going to all be a bit Alan Partridge isn't it ? He leaves us in a terrible state, are they expecting everyone to be wearing those "I was there when Wenger left t shirts"

I’be still got my DB10 commemorative shirt from his big send off ( in our lovely new stadium). :icon_smile11:

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Post #486514  Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 5:08 pm 

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Delighted to see scummy stoke go down.
Disgusting club.
Does anyone know why they are relegated if mathematically they can still catch swansea??

I assume it's because they're goal difference is 8 worse than Swansea that people are saying they're down, even if it's not yet official. Goal difference has relevance throughout the season. Every single goal scored and conceded on the first day of the season counts the same as every single goal scored and conceded on the last day.


  
 
 
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Bernard wrote:
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Delighted to see scummy stoke go down.
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Does anyone know why they are relegated if mathematically they can still catch swansea??

I assume it's because they're goal difference is 8 worse than Swansea that people are saying they're down, even if it's not yet official. Goal difference has relevance throughout the season. Every single goal scored and conceded on the first day of the season counts the same as every single goal scored and conceded on the last day.

It is official. Bottom three go down, and Swansea play Southampton so one/both will get point(s)

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Delighted to see scummy stoke go down.
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Does anyone know why they are relegated if mathematically they can still catch swansea??


Possibly because Swansea play Southampton in one of their two games left so even if they lose that game and Southampton take their place S'tons goal difference is vastly superior.


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Does anyone know why they are relegated if mathematically they can still catch swansea??


Possibly because Swansea play Southampton in one of their two games left so even if they lose that game and Southampton take their place S'tons goal difference is vastly superior.

Nothing to do with goal difference. They simply can’t catch both of Swansea and Southampton

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Tbh mate, it probably does.

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Possibly because Swansea play Southampton in one of their two games left so even if they lose that game and Southampton take their place S'tons goal difference is vastly superior.

Nothing to do with goal difference. They simply can’t catch both of Swansea and Southampton

Tnanks for clarifying LTG
Thanks to Bernard and bubblechris too.


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Post #486520  Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 5:56 pm 

Thanks LTG. I didn't realise Swansea still had to play Southampton.


  
 
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