Think it’s more tactical , to control possession more

I really don’t think so as much as Arteta would want you to believe it. You are changing everything.

So it’s kiwior at left back, partey at right back and Ben white plays his first game of the season at centre back. You have unseated 3 of your back 4. Very hard to believe that’s tactical. Why not just keep kiwior and white in their same positions as the last game. Just not logical

Terrible ball by Ødegaard

Trossard should have scored there

No idea what he is thinking. The one change you would expect, Saka getting a break, hasn't happened.

We have been conceding far too many goals in the second half of the season. I still think we will win this but every game we play seems to be hard fought at the moment.

I completely agree with TG re the line-up. Our left flank is non-existent in an attacking sense.

Has anyone told the Arsenal players, particularly Gabriel, that you are actually allowed to use the left side of the pitch.

Is Reiss Nelson injured or just not in the squad because he's leaving?

Our passing is slow, predictable and lacking incisiveness.

I’d like to see Eddie on

Apparently, he is ill.

Maybe bring Tierney on at LB, move Jesus wide and put Eddie up top.

Thanks Dec.

He might have been useful today.

Another strange one. He's shown a fair amount of promise this season.

That should be checked by VAR

Take Kiwior out, he is not useful to the team

Or do something. Anything really.

Now we have Tierney, Nketiah and Vieira on for Kiwior, Xhaka and Trossard. Forest 11 men behind the ball and time wasting like there was no tomorrow. Painful viewing.

Mikel has plenty of credit in the bank , but these last two performances have been alarmingly shocking

What happened to this Arsenal team?
Too slow in their build up in attack. Used to be running past opposition easily.

A poor, soft few weeks to give up the league title.

Hopefully management and players will learn from this and be even better next year.

Overall though, a massive, massive improvement.

It is like he is aiding the opposition in both games.
Let BHA have the points to get past Spurs and into Europe.
Let Forest stay up.

Have we had a shot on goal, has their keeper made a save?

Priorities for next year are a centre mid and a striker who can score goals.

Neither Jesus nor Nketiah are good enough.

The way we are playing, even 45 mins won't get us a goal

Ending the season with a bang would have been nice, but this hasn’t even been a pop.

A whimper is a hugely disappointing final act.

The players have let themselves down this past few games.

What a waste of time watching Arsenal these last 2 games
Nothing to get excited about for 180 minutes

Well, that was a shitshow wasn't it.

We must have broken the world record for the most number of sideways and non-progressive passes in a single PL game.

Forest are shite but we barely laid a glove on them and our supposed title-run in has turned into an absolute embarassment.

Arteta must be scratching his head, not that his line-up, tactics and in-game management helped matters today.

Why the *%^@ was Emile Smith Rowe not given some minutes today?

9 points from 24 is just pathetic.

I wouldn’t be so sure , there were plenty in the later Wenger years just like this

The thing that frustrates me is that there are probably a few players who may be considering joining Arsenal who might just be having a second look at other offers after the nature of this run-in collapse.

Slightly better than relegation form. There's a pattern under Arteta - get CL qualification in sight, then it's brown trousers time. Get a title shot in sight... yep, poop the togs. A lot of additions needed. Selling Tierney will be a backward step.

Emile Smith Rowe treatment is baffling and frustrating.
To bring on Viera ahead of him is a *%^@*** joke

Quite happy to see Forest earn the right to stay up, they gave us shirts you know. We haven’t pooped our pants, we ran out of gas, we tried to do with 14 players what city did with 18. Hope they can lift themselves for the last game to give the faithful something to cheer. Great season to build on.

Doubt it ! Not with the clear upward curve over the past couple of years

Yes, we were better than last year and played some good football at times.

But for people to deny that we have not bottled it, tanked, collapsed or mentally collapsed shows the level of denial at this club is at a defensive level not seen since the end of the Wenger era.

This has been the biggest mental collapse that I can remember, and that’s at a club where it has happened a number of times. At 29 games we were on 72 points, City had played 28 games for 64 points. The title was in our hands but we continued to freeze. We had games against Southampton, Westham, Brighton, Notts Forest to come. Soon as we could see the way forward each individual player failed to accept their responsibility. If you really were a champion team you could expect to maybe get a draw at City given all the other fixtures they had, but even a loss would not be fatal. Two up at Liverpool and a mental collapse.

Yes we played some good football this season but there were still a lot of games where we gave up big chances and were not punished. People seem to conveniently forget that. Reminds me a bit of Emery's first season run.

Arteta failed to manage the players both physically and mentally across the season. And when I say players I mean the whole squad. He surrendered all cups to get the EPL. Well if it works, great, but when it doesn't fingers must be pointed.

At the beginning of the season we would never have expected to be in our position at game 29. But it was in our hands at game 29 and it didn't matter how much money City had spent. Leicester did it despite how far down the spending list they were. Maybe their manager was more experienced.

James from Gunnerblog made an interesting point last night. He said we played good football at times this season. A bit like Brendan Rogers at Liverpool but you needed the next manager (Klopp) to get the title.

For me Arteta has one more season for him to produce and stop the late season rot. He has had support and money from the top that no other Arsenal manager has ever enjoyed. We must at least make the QF of CL and easily make the top 4 for me to consider him capable of remaining with the club. We collapsed mentally this season and last season as well : we need to ensure it does not continue.

I am sure that the forum will continue to be inundated with the people who celebrate mediocrity and will defend Arteta. Good luck to them but things won't change if you accept what happened this season. I am concerned this team peaked this season.

Other than Kiwi, I am sure most of you have never driven at night outside cities in Australia, particularly in the outback. But we had a whole mob of kangaroos standing on the road just watching the headlights of the truck approach after game 29. The truck did not stop and they stood frozen. By the way no one comes out to remove the carcasses, you just dodge them.

My word the state of this nonsense. It’s like a clown turning up sozzled for a children’s party with his flies undone unable to entertain and only embarrass