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Post #476921  Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:52 am 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
One thing I forgot to mention - if you get the best goal of the year in an award he may not be too bad.


Oh come off it that was a total fluke, expression of shock on his face.

He's not a bad player but he's not a top player. I take smudger over him every day of the week


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Post #476922  Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:55 am 
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bubblechris wrote:
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I'm not criticising. Let's give bubblechris an award or something for being as stupid as Wenger.


again with the insults you little schoolboy. There is only one stupid child I know on this forum tht wants us to play without Giroud, and that is the dumbest *%^@ up of all. Need I remind you how many goals Giroud has scored for us. Goals that were in many cases invaluable.

Does anybody else think that Giroud is a waste of space?


I didn't say that.

Out of 100,000 sperm, were you really the fastest? Please confirm


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Post #476923  Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:25 am 
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Funny how others seem to agree with me that you are dissing Giroud and his value to the team.

At least I don't have to pick my father out of a lineup of possible or do I mean probable miscreants soft lad.


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Post #476924  Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:40 am 

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Out of 100,000 sperm, were you really the fastest? Please confirm

Isn't it usually between 100m and 200m, not 100k?

On your Giroud discussion, I'm close to bromley's viewpoint. He's quite good and there are a lot around who are below his level. But I'd normally expect the title winner's first choice striker to be better than him.


  
 
 
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Bernard wrote:
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Out of 100,000 sperm, were you really the fastest? Please confirm

Isn't it usually between 100m and 200m, not 100k?



I’m not sure Bernard. I was way out in front and didn’t look behind me to see who was catching up


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Since we’re on the subject, did you know that the woman’s body views sperm as unwanted invaders, rather like a virus, and mobilises their immune response to kill most of them? Any sperm that gets anywhere near an egg is a very lucky little blighter.


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bromley gooner wrote:
Since we’re on the subject, did you know that the woman’s body views sperm as unwanted invaders, rather like a virus, and mobilises their immune response to kill most of them? Any sperm that gets anywhere near an egg is a very lucky little blighter.


A spawny git??

So no-one disagrees with me that Čech is well past it? Or that Mert is still worthy of a place in the team?
Or do I have to insult someone to get a conversation going?

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Post #476928  Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:10 pm 
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I definitely agree with you that Čech is not the best of the keepers out there and that we should be looking for his successor. But he's the least of our problems imo.


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I definitely agree with you that Čech is not the best of the keepers out there and that we should be looking for his successor. But he's the least of our problems imo.


I think the position is the second most important to resolve, after a proper hard defensive midfielder who can shield the back four.

Have you got the time to list your concerns, in their priority order? I'd be interested in others' views on that too.

Reason being I'm having a good old argument with my dad (age 93 and a supporter since just after WW2) and his best mate (age 84 and another Arsenal supporter since the late 40s) about what we are lacking to enable us to properly compete again. Once you get past their assertion that we don't kick the ball far enough and quickly enough up the field (Charles Hughes POMO anyone?), or we don't shoot enough, they do show a remarkable tactical nous which I've enjoyed listening to.

They both argue a new keeper is our top priority - apparently Čech would not be fit to lace Kelsey's boots.

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Since we’re on the subject, did you know that the woman’s body views sperm as unwanted invaders, rather like a virus, and mobilises their immune response to kill most of them? Any sperm that gets anywhere near an egg is a very lucky little blighter.


A spawny git??

So no-one disagrees with me that Čech is well past it? Or that Mert is still worthy of a place in the team?
Or do I have to insult someone to get a conversation going?

I would say Čech is still pretty decent. Mert still has quality and if fully fit he’d be in my team given the current options.
Our biggest problem imo is not having a coach who can find a better balance between attack and defence.


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bromley gooner wrote:
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A spawny git??

So no-one disagrees with me that Čech is well past it? Or that Mert is still worthy of a place in the team?
Or do I have to insult someone to get a conversation going?

I would say Čech is still pretty decent. Mert still has quality and if fully fit he’d be in my team given the current options.
Our biggest problem imo is not having a coach who can find a better balance between attack and defence.


Cheers Brom - I'm almost immune to thinking about the manager these days. Which is a shame, as I used to think so much of him.

As others have said, the root cause is the ownership. Wasn't that Moshiri bloke at Everton linked with us at one time?

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
One thing I forgot to mention - if you get the best goal of the year in an award he may not be too bad.


Oh come off it that was a total fluke, expression of shock on his face.


That's ridiculous.

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Decaf wrote:
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Oh come off it that was a total fluke, expression of shock on his face.


That's ridiculous.


Ok so you feel that goal was absolutely an embodiment of Giroud time at Arsenal ! :1laughter:


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john1 wrote:
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I would say Čech is still pretty decent. Mert still has quality and if fully fit he’d be in my team given the current options.
Our biggest problem imo is not having a coach who can find a better balance between attack and defence.


Cheers Brom - I'm almost immune to thinking about the manager these days. Which is a shame, as I used to think so much of him.

As others have said, the root cause is the ownership. Wasn't that Moshiri bloke at Everton linked with us at one time?

Afternoon John. Moshiri is I believe mates with Uzmanov, so lets hope he doesn't persuade the Uzbek to take his money to Everton and leave Stan as ultimate dictator. :20hospitals:


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bromley gooner wrote:
john1 wrote:

Cheers Brom - I'm almost immune to thinking about the manager these days. Which is a shame, as I used to think so much of him.

As others have said, the root cause is the ownership. Wasn't that Moshiri bloke at Everton linked with us at one time?

Afternoon John. Moshiri is I believe mates with Uzmanov, so lets hope he doesn't persuade the Uzbek to take his money to Everton and leave Stan as ultimate dictator. :20hospitals:


He looked well chuffed sitting next to Kenwright at the match - a strange grin on his face almost as if he was looking forward to sacking Koeman.

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Post #476936  Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:31 pm 
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I still think the priority is to sort out the midfield two.

We must replace Cazorla and next to whoever takes this position must be a defensive minded midfielder.

Jack i'd love to make it but if the attacking midfielder becomes his remit means there's no room for Ramsey.

Thankfully I'm not the manager...........


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Macey, Holding, Elneny, Debuchy, Maitland-Niles, Wilshire, Coquelin, Nelson, Iwobi, Walcott, Giroud.

It's the midweek team. Should be enough to win.


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Not sure about the back line. Let's hope Debouchy gives us the benefit of his experience and controls their play.


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Post #476939  Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:01 pm 
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Mainland-Nile’s with a classic case of arsenalitus, played through on the left of the box and can see the gk, it is a narrow ish angle but refuses to pull the trigger, instead squares it for no one.
So frustrating when players do that. We’ve played 15 minutes and it’s the only time we’ve properly opened them up and we refuse to shoot.


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Great save from their gk, point blank header from holding from a corner


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Post #476941  Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:20 pm 
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Norwich lead 1-0. First effort on goal. Arsenal have totally dominated.

Where have we heard this before


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Post #476942  Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:28 pm 
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Our attacking set plays are such an advantage for the opposition to counter simply because we don’t position players for any clearance. Just then we put a ball in the box and had 6 or 7 players attack it, that is 6 or 7 players going for the ball or so far ahead of the game they’ve basically taken themselves out of the game. It gets cleared to the edge of the box with a weakish header and there’s two Norwich players who can stride 35-40 yards. That shouldn’t be a counter attack, at worst it should be arsenal recycling the ball, at best it is a first time shot at goal from the edge of the box. This happens every game why is no one fixing this on the training pitch?


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Post #476943  Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:36 pm 
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Ht 0-1. Nothing we haven’t seen before under typical wenger style.
Arsenal dominate, give up an easy chance, trail 1-0. Refuse to shoot, lots of sideways passing. Epitomised by the last 30 seconds of the half, arsenal passing it side to side around their box, refs rarely blow for HT when a team is on an attack but I think the ref just got bored and knew we wouldn’t put in a cross or shot so just blew up. If you know it’s the last kick of the half just take a shot.

Walcott is completely lost in this formation, adds nothing.
I’m struggling to work out who is playing what position in central midfield, coquelin seems to be making Ramsey type runs forward, iwobi and Wilshere are sometimes deep sometimes No.10s, even elneny is basically playing holding mid.

Pretty boring football from arsenal


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The biggest head scratcher from that half is coquelin (not that he’s still at the club) but that wenger insists on trying to play him in this high defensive be press role.
1) I assume this is wengers plan because if he’s either just letting players do what they want and not changing it or they aren’t doing what he says and he’s not changing it then we’re in even bigger trouble
2) coq, A’s a limited footballer has proven effective in a holding mid role where he can put out fires and his tenacity can win it back and distribute it simply to more talented players


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Rich wrote:
The biggest head scratcher from that half is coquelin (not that he’s still at the club) but that wenger insists on trying to play him in this high defensive be press role.
1) I assume this is wengers plan because if he’s either just letting players do what they want and not changing it or they aren’t doing what he says and he’s not changing it then we’re in even bigger trouble
2) coq, A’s a limited footballer has proven effective in a holding mid role where he can put out fires and his tenacity can win it back and distribute it simply to more talented players


Biggest disappointment for me is that our back line just doesn't play as a unit as do some of the better sides. Mind you nor do the rest of the team. As Rich said nobody seems to know what they should be doing nor where they should be playing. This was a must game for Mert.


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Norwich the better team now, without the ball we are a mess, too many players trying to do too much, sloppy passing in possession and no one with any idea of the position in central midfield.

I’d bring Willock on for coquelin


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You have to laugh at the consistent shear bloody mindedness of arsenal players trying to play delicate 1-2’s through the heart of an 8 men central defence. Farcical


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20 minutes left and arsenal are doing their standard pile everyone forward for the equaliser, so open on the counter. More urgency is good but 20 mins to go is not the time to throw the kitchen sink at it


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This is a stark reminder of why so many want wenger out. This is just a blindfolded pick of 11 random players put out on a football pitch. As simple as that


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What a sub! Nketiah, that has to be the quickest goal by a sub ever. Subbed just before a corner, corner comes in, flicked on and Eddie stabs in with his first touch

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That's ridiculous.


Ok so you feel that goal was absolutely an embodiment of Giroud time at Arsenal ! :1laughter:
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No. Why do you ask?

The point is thst it's hardly the only ridiculously good goal he's scored in his time here. That is as characteristic of him as his tendency to resemble one of the more lumbering sorts of draught animal at times. So it inaccurate and simply ungracious to describe it as a fluke.

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That sums up walcotts contribution. Last kick of the game, no pressure on the cross, box is loaded, Walcott has to basically just kick it someone between 20-35 yards and with at least 10 feet of elevation. He balloons it 50 yards long, 25 yards high and behind.


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Nketiah again! 2-1


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What an arrival on the scene for Nketiah :53big-emoticons:


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Rich wrote:
That sums up walcotts contribution. Last kick of the game, no pressure on the cross, box is loaded, Walcott has to basically just kick it someone between 20-35 yards and with at least 10 feet of elevation. He balloons it 50 yards long, 25 yards high and behind.


Trying not to dig him out as it’s all been a bit abject but he’s really done the square root of *%^@ all


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That looked like a penalty for Norwich. Debuchy with definite clumsy contact. Walcott have the ball away.

Norwich have been angry all game claiming arsenal have had the rub of the green for decisions. That is the only contentious one. I think it was a pen on first viewing


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Eddie.....Eddie.......Eddie :laughing7:


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Full time 2-1. Plenty of senior players who I expected much more from today, real lack of shape from the team, generally a very poor and disjointed performance.....BUT, let the headlines be all about a young 18 year old youth academy player who comes off the bench at 1-0 down with 5 mins left, scores with his first touch, then bags the winner in extra time and who's every touch was greeted with cheers and chants of "Eddie, eddie" from the Arsenal fans. When you see something like that happen for a young player you can't help but smile.

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Lucky Arsenal tonight. Elneny couldn't have complained if sent off, even if it was a bit of an orange one, and while the Norwich guy was desperately looking for it, that was the kind of call that 50% of the time refs give - the contact was high, even if not much force.

Have to say, though we got lucky with the ref tonight, between him and linesmen, the officials had a bad night tonight.

Walcott stunk the place out, but 3 of the several times he was given offside were wrong, once, clean through. Very pleased for Nketiah. A kid let go by Chelsea, he's certainly been a premier poacher at lower levels. The kid just has a nose for goal. Not sure about his all round game, but he always gets a chance because his anticipation is fantastic.

Elneny was awful tonight. Holding and Debuchy (until the late pen shout) were pretty good. Le Coq's use of the ball was shocking, but his energy was important. Jack suffered somewhat from being identified clearly by both line-ups as the only creative outlet, so Norwich just man marked him. AMN did ok out of position. Nelson isn't physically ready for this level really, but technically is. Not remotely a wing back though. Thought DaSilva did well when he came on. Iwobi tried hard but nothing really came off.

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I'm not one for overhyping players but Nketiah is already better than Henry.


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