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Post #515881  Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:34 pm 
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Martinez gone. £20m and 4 year deal. Villa have a good keeper and we have some money towards our midfield.

And towards a replacement number 2 keeper?

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Martinez gone. £20m and 4 year deal. Villa have a good keeper and we have some money towards our midfield.

And towards a replacement number 2 keeper?

Seen us linked with an Icelandic GK from Dijon for a very low fee £2m or so.

Raja is rumoured to cost £10m+. Depends how much of a risk we want to take in order to secure our first choice midfield target(s)


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Everton should be 1-0 up v spurs. Richarlison goes round the GK, tight angle and a defender covering the line and he shoots wild and high - but standing completely free in the 6 yard box is Calvert-Lewin, a simple square pass from Richarlison and he taps it in an empty net - get your head up!


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Spuds 0 Everton 1

Final score. Expecting Everton to have a good season, and hopefully the exact opposite for Maureen's boys.


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Post #515886  Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:25 pm 
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:42laughter: Spurs lose :1laughter:
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Sometimes, just sometimes, we are in total agreement.

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Anyone seen the new Christopher Nolan movie ?

Thought he over cooked it personally but a good watch never the less.

The trailers look good. I quite fancy it.

But, sadly, it will be a long time before I would attend a cinema.


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Pinched from BBC, I thought it was funny anyway.

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Recently I learned I'm not indestructible

Me too.

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Ok I’m reminding you of this one dude when it happens :laughing7:

Even the BT pundits today said it was going to happen. Also when Leno needs to get rested “why the F did we let Martinez go!” Etc etc

Maybe Ash himself will now feel obliged to keep quiet about the next Leno boo boo. But he’s not the only possible candidate.


I will feel obliged to do nothing cheeky sod, if an Arsenal footballer makes a mistake for Arsenal he may get criticised on the Gleiber forum, and I might even criticise him myself, feels par for the course. If Leno makes the odd mistake what I will not be doing, and neither I’d wager will anyone else be, is pining for Martinez. Although I might if only to wind you up. Fair warning.


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TOP GUN wrote:
Anyone seen the new Christopher Nolan movie ?

Thought he over cooked it personally but a good watch never the less.


Saw it Friday, bizarre to be so spaced out with compulsory mask wearing after being in the pub, which was a zoo.

Found the film slightly frustrating viewing, apart from the “mind blowingness”, which I’m not sure about at all, it seemed beset with what I call grim acting, everyone fairly emotionless and being all gruff. Although that’s a bit Nolan. Had me talking about the film and thinking about it afterwards so perhaps thought provoking at least.


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Ladies and Gents.... Jose Mourinho


Pinched from BBC, I thought it was funny anyway.

Bet Mourhino misses those summer club tours he took to LA. :1laughter:

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Ash wrote:
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Anyone seen the new Christopher Nolan movie ?

Thought he over cooked it personally but a good watch never the less.


Saw it Friday, bizarre to be so spaced out with compulsory mask wearing after being in the pub, which was a zoo.

Found the film slightly frustrating viewing, apart from the “mind blowingness”, which I’m not sure about at all, it seemed beset with what I call grim acting, everyone fairly emotionless and being all gruff. Although that’s a bit Nolan. Had me talking about the film and thinking about it afterwards so perhaps thought provoking at least.


Haha yeah this is similar to my experience, the pre film pint went slightly adrift as I didn’t feel encouraged to walk into a weatherspoons packed with people not distancing and went round the corner instead

You’ve nailed the film too, its overcooked this time with too much moody dialogue. I think Nolan is brilliant and Dunkirk very good but this was more Emery than Arteta I felt


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Speaking of LA, tonight is Kroenke's LA Rams v Dallas Cowboys game at his new $5B Sofi stadium showpiece. Stan just did a ribbon cutting to open the stadium this past Tuesday. Game to be played behind closed doors, no fans. Only media and certain NFL personnel, as well as Stan's ally, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to attend.

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Most, if not all of us hated Leeds when they were in the top flight and probably took pleasure seeing them implode. But I gotta admit I was hoping they made it back to the PL. Chastened, phoenix from the ashes.

Many of us will have hated them since well before then. The brand of anti-football of Don Revie introduced us sticks long in the mind.
A team of two faces back then? Mostly teamwork and skill of the highest order, but sometimes the most cynical outfit ever seen in top level English football.

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Martinez gone. £20m and 4 year deal. Villa have a good keeper and we have some money towards our midfield.


All the best to him, except when they play Arsenal

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Good to see Spurs lose


They are missing Eriksen I guess. James to Everton may be a masterstroke by Ancelotti. Allan and Doucoure are good additions as well.


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Ash wrote:
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Maybe Ash himself will now feel obliged to keep quiet about the next Leno boo boo. But he’s not the only possible candidate.


I will feel obliged to do nothing cheeky sod, if an Arsenal footballer makes a mistake for Arsenal he may get criticised on the Gleiber forum, and I might even criticise him myself, feels par for the course. If Leno makes the odd mistake what I will not be doing, and neither I’d wager will anyone else be, is pining for Martinez. Although I might if only to wind you up. Fair warning.

Good on you Ash. I will not give the same undertaking. It will depend on the mistake and how crucial it is. Down the track Leno gets injured it might get very interesting at our club.

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Ash wrote:
If Leno makes the odd mistake what I will not be doing, and neither I’d wager will anyone else.

Having just read the last post by Gaz from Oz, are you sure about the ‘neither I’d wager will anyone else’ comment?


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Arsenal.com are saying that It’s hoped Martinelli can return to full training by the end of the calendar year. So I guess he won’t be playing until January at the earliest, more likely February. That’s a long injury.


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Bernard wrote:
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If Leno makes the odd mistake what I will not be doing, and neither I’d wager will anyone else.

Having just read the last post by Gaz from Oz, are you sure about the ‘neither I’d wager will anyone else’ comment?


Well obviously Gaz was always going to be an anomaly... :laughing7:


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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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I will feel obliged to do nothing cheeky sod, if an Arsenal footballer makes a mistake for Arsenal he may get criticised on the Gleiber forum, and I might even criticise him myself, feels par for the course. If Leno makes the odd mistake what I will not be doing, and neither I’d wager will anyone else be, is pining for Martinez. Although I might if only to wind you up. Fair warning.

Good on you Ash. I will not give the same undertaking. It will depend on the mistake and how crucial it is. Down the track Leno gets injured it might get very interesting at our club.

Not sure what else the club was supposed to do in this situation. If Martinez wanted an assurance that he was going to be No.1 and Arteta wasn't prepared to give him that assurance, he was always going to leave. In an ideal world it would be great if he'd stayed and we had two top drawer goalkeepers in the event of one of them getting injured, but that was never going to happen. All Arteta can do now is use some of the Martinez money to sign a competent goalie who is prepared to be No.2 to Leno.


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Arsenal.com are saying that It’s hoped Martinelli can return to full training by the end of the calendar year. So I guess he won’t be playing until January at the earliest, more likely February. That’s a long injury.


Always worrying when a youngster gets an injury that keeps him out for so long.

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Arsenal.com are saying that It’s hoped Martinelli can return to full training by the end of the calendar year. So I guess he won’t be playing until January at the earliest, more likely February. That’s a long injury.


Always worrying when a youngster gets an injury that keeps him out for so long.


Absolutely, bit worrying. What will that be 6 months? A fair few what-could-have-been Wilshere stories out there, but Serge Gnabry gives me a bit of hope.


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Not sure what else the club was supposed to do in this situation. If Martinez wanted an assurance that he was going to be No.1 and Arteta wasn't prepared to give him that assurance, he was always going to leave. In an ideal world it would be great if he'd stayed and we had two top drawer goalkeepers in the event of one of them getting injured, but that was never going to happen. All Arteta can do now is use some of the Martinez money to sign a competent goalie who is prepared to be No.2 to Leno.

Yes, I agree. At his age Martinez wanting to be first choice is completely understandable, so if that guarantee can't be met then best for all concerned that he takes the next step in his career at a good club, which Villa is. If we are honest, until he came in for the injured Leno and did well, there were very few fans or pundits suggesting Martinez was vital to our future. Anyway, if he improves even more in his next move, there is still a chance for him to return to us one day. His connection with Arsenal is a strong one.

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Many of us will have hated them since well before then. The brand of anti-football of Don Revie introduced us sticks long in the mind.
A team of two faces back then? Mostly teamwork and skill of the highest order, but sometimes the most cynical outfit ever seen in top level English football.


During the lock down I looked at a lot of clubs playing late 60s into the '70s. I specifically looked at the Leeds side in the early to mid 70s and some matches they were class, powerful but skillful. Then a few matches, and it seemed to be against sides that could match them in skill (Liverpool, and others) they got stuck in early and often. The referee seemed to expect it and some things that would have been a sending off or a yellow now were a free kick. Nasty game at times in some of those old clips.

Maybe I have them pegged wrong but the games I saw it seemed like if they could outclass you they could and if they couldn't they'd kick you and with their skill get a goal and get stuck in so you don't equalize. Maybe I'm being too simplistic. The Revie/Clough interview was surreal.

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So, Rams playing in the house The Arsenal built, eh? :42laughter:
Joking obviously, but I saw it while it was being erected. Looked awe inspiring to be honest. Massive project.

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During the lock down I looked at a lot of clubs playing late 60s into the '70s. I specifically looked at the Leeds side in the early to mid 70s and some matches they were class, powerful but skillful. Then a few matches, and it seemed to be against sides that could match them in skill (Liverpool, and others) they got stuck in early and often. The referee seemed to expect it and some things that would have been a sending off or a yellow now were a free kick. Nasty game at times in some of those old clips.

Maybe I have them pegged wrong but the games I saw it seemed like if they could outclass you they could and if they couldn't they'd kick you and with their skill get a goal and get stuck in so you don't equalize. Maybe I'm being too simplistic. The Revie/Clough interview was surreal.
They could play any team off the park, and often did, but as you say were not afraid to put the boot in. The clashes with us, Everton, United and Chelsea in the Revie years were just that - volcanic. They had a "no one likes us but we don't care" attitude. A key factor was the desire to make it amongst the big boys - for most of their history they had been a second division club. Revie's achievement was astonishing, something that is easily overlooked due to his methods. Ironically he was a stylish rather than aggressive player himself!

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Ash wrote:
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Always worrying when a youngster gets an injury that keeps him out for so long.


Absolutely, bit worrying. What will that be 6 months? A fair few what-could-have-been Wilshere stories out there, but Serge Gnabry gives me a bit of hope.

After all, Martinelli did have surgery. Can't expect him back that soon.

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So, Rams playing in the house The Arsenal built, eh? :42laughter:
Joking obviously, but I saw it while it was being erected. Looked awe inspiring to be honest. Massive project.

Rams won
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I am new here, but a long time reader.

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Thank you. It really is a good forum.


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Currently making my famous Top Gun chicken, leek and mushroom pie for the kids. Listening to music whilst making it and I’ve put on Led Zeppelin IV album on.

I’m not the biggest rock n roll fan in the world and I’m not actually a massive zeppelin fan either but it’s surely a contender for the greatest music album of all time.

It seems a showcase for musical talent and people determined to show the breadth of their own musical talent. No track sounds similar, complete comfort in changing musical variety, percussions and product. Possibly the greatest of all time

What a trip. Which led me to this ... possibly my favourite disc from that or any era. The percussion fills when Carlos is doing his thing are just delicious, especially in Oye Como Va.
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Ha! No investment...no surprise at all.

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Rúnar Alex Rúnarsson looks like the GK to replace Martinez, very low fee £1.5m. He's worked with our GK coach before so you'd think that he had a big say in this.


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Interesting to see where Saka fits in the team at the moment. AMN ahead of him at LWB, and Tierney you would assume is also ahead of him in that position. Aubameyang has left wing sealed, and he has Pépé and Willian on the right wing.
Is Saka a victim of his versatility? Similar to AMN. Potentially our strongest 11 doesn't have either of them in it. Real competition for places in defence and attack.

If we can get one of Partey or Aouar that makes us pretty competitive and have decent squad depth all over the pitch. I'd love to get both but I can't see where the money will come from. Sokratis and Torreira sales should add £30m to the pot, add in the £20m from Martinez and that will get you one of those star midfielders with some wages left in the bank by removing 3 and getting in 1. If only we could also sell Guendouzi for £30m and shift Özil's £18m wages off the book and move on Kolasinac for £5-10m you could start to see how we might be able to get the other central mid.

We do have a huge squad, and even as it stands I struggle to see how players like Chambers, Willock, Nelson, Smith-Rowe get many minutes


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