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Post #403201  Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:33 pm 
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I love this desire players are showing to join us.
Really nice to see.
If you haven't see the Nørgaard first day at the club really worth a look.
He's posing in our kit then his young son runs in wearing full Arsenal kit.
He hugs his dad and Nørgaard overcome with emotion wipes away a tear.
Really brought a lump to my throat seeing this.
This move means a lot to him and he comes across us a really humble lovely guy.
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Post #403202  Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:43 pm 
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Gyökeres has to take the 10. Can’t kick Jesus off the 9 shirt, but Gyökeres seems like the kids of guy who would back himself to wear such a number.

I think Gyökeres might get 14 associated with our main striker. Madueke maybe 18


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Post #403203  Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:31 pm 
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Gyökeres agent waived his fee! It has allowed Arsenal and Sporting to agree a fee. £55m with £8.6m add ons

For a guy with his goal record that’s a good fee. Darwin Nunez went for close to £80m


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So Chelsea bring in a big load of cash with their win.

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Looking forward to Tuesday, apparently Gyökeres will be officially announced :26encouragement:

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Post #403206  Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:08 am 
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I think its fairly obvious that the £52m spent on Madueke will not have helped our negotiating position as we try to agree fees for players.

However, what can you do? We need to get players in asap.

My Chelsea supporting friend says they only paid 28.5 for Madueke 2.5 years ago. If that is correct, so much for all the Chelsea desperate to raise cash stories. When was the last time we sold a player for a mark up of 80% plus after 2 years. Plus Chelsea are up about 100million from the tournament they just won.

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Post #403207  Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:41 am 
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I wonder if Gyökeres will take over penalties? He’s a bit of an expert at them


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Post #403208  Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:46 am 
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Really surprised Chelsea beat PSG 3-0 in the club World Cup. Chelsea have managed to win 2 club world cups from a single champions league win.

Chelsea are such a strange team, they’re going about it in a way no one has before. Trading players so frequently. They’ll make another 12-15 transfers in and out this summer as well I reckon.


Interesting that they’ve started playing Palmer more from the right side, I’ve seen him there a few times and it works, it gives him more space and he’s not playing as much with his back to play.

I still think Chelsea are 4th though. The defence and gk are not title winning quality


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Post #403209  Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:59 am 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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I think its fairly obvious that the £52m spent on Madueke will not have helped our negotiating position as we try to agree fees for players.

However, what can you do? We need to get players in asap.

My Chelsea supporting friend says they only paid 28.5 for Madueke 2.5 years ago. If that is correct, so much for all the Chelsea desperate to raise cash stories. When was the last time we sold a player for a mark up of 80% plus after 2 years. Plus Chelsea are up about 100million from the tournament they just won.

I agree that that the idea that Chelea are desperate to raise cash doesn't wash (although they have spent a lot). Maresca seems to know what he is doing. They are a bit of a worry, to be honest.

However, the fact that Chelsea were willing to sell Madueke does not mean they don't rate him. Chelsea have a lot of quality wingers and left-footed players now and we offered them a good price. As specialised RWs they have Estêvão (who they payed 60 million for) and Neto. If we were offered 50-60 million for Martinelli and had two other highly rated LWs would we take it?

The fact that we were willing to pay a good price and did the deal early suggests that we got Madueke because Arteta likes him and he was available. It's a very similar situation to Havertz and Raya.

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Rich wrote:
I wonder if Gyökeres will take over penalties? He’s a bit of an expert at them

It seems an obvious one. It's a highly underrated attribute.

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Post #403211  Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:52 am 
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
socrates wrote:
I think its fairly obvious that the £52m spent on Madueke will not have helped our negotiating position as we try to agree fees for players.

However, what can you do? We need to get players in asap.

My Chelsea supporting friend says they only paid 28.5 for Madueke 2.5 years ago. If that is correct, so much for all the Chelsea desperate to raise cash stories. When was the last time we sold a player for a mark up of 80% plus after 2 years. Plus Chelsea are up about 100million from the tournament they just won.

Their model is working to an extent, spending a lot, but recouping a lot, but you have to keep being able to do it. 9 year contracts so they can spread the cost of the transfer in to smaller accounting chunks each year means they are constantly on the buy/sell to balance the books, giving themselves so many more decisions to make….and get right. For every Madueke doubling in price there is a Joao Felix who was £60m barely a year ago and now must be worth a 1/3 of that, or still paying Sterling £300k for 2 more years….or having to pay Man U £5m to have their own player (Sancho) back.


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New fad in football I dislike, when teams win a trophy and turn their shirts back to front so their name and number is in the front of their shirt for the photos….incredibly narcissistic. The alternative is changing shirts to a pre printed ‘champions XX’ with the year. The way shirts fit and the collar make it look terrible before we even start on anything else.


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Frankly the WCC is a total waste of space and I refuse to waste my energy even thinking about it

I think the results in it are similar in meaning to pre seasons friendlies, ie meaningless

I like Chelsea, as it gives me a club I can truly despise, truly a moral cesspit


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Post #403214  Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:29 am 
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I am excited to see Gyökeres play and whether or not he can transmit his obvious qualities to the PL.

Bullying players in the PL is a lot different to bullying players in the Portuguese league I would imagine and he won't get bucket loads of easy chances.

However, what gives me hope is that we saw glimpses of his pace and power against Saliba and Kiwior.

Let's hope he proves to be the real deal.


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Post #403215  Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:32 am 
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1979gooner wrote:
Frankly the WCC is a total waste of space and I refuse to waste my energy even thinking about it

I think the results in it are similar in meaning to pre seasons friendlies, ie meaningless

I like Chelsea, as it gives me a club I can truly despise, truly a moral cesspit


Hi 1979,

Pretty annoying that Chelsea have got £100m on the back of it, though.

That's helps them out nicely financially.


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Post #403216  Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:11 am 
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socrates wrote:
1979gooner wrote:
Frankly the WCC is a total waste of space and I refuse to waste my energy even thinking about it

I think the results in it are similar in meaning to pre seasons friendlies, ie meaningless

I like Chelsea, as it gives me a club I can truly despise, truly a moral cesspit


Hi 1979,

Pretty annoying that Chelsea have got £100m on the back of it, though.

That's helps them out nicely financially.

I started off thinking the whole thing was a joke but as it progressed I actually thought it was a lot more than a pre-season hit out. There were quality teams in it and they played to win, probably because of the money. To be able to test tactics against good teams and players has some value. Whether those teams fall over with exhaustion in February is the unknown. In the final what impressed me was Chelsea’s quick transition of play. It is something we do struggle with and it’s surprising how it can open up even quality teams. For them it will have built confidence in the squad but do you now give the players 2 weeks off and lose some of that. Plus 100 million is not to be sneezed at.

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With this club World Cup thing it would be interesting to see if Arsenal had participated how we would have treated it. Chelsea basically had 2 tough games but it’s netted them 90 million or something. However August is round the corner and their players are not rested having played in insane heat. If we had participated it would have required Arteta to show a level of pragmatism probably not seen yet as asking saka and co to play every minute would have been impossible. We struggle with 4 competitions as it is.

The level of money will make the tournament relevant now but it’s one football tournament too far as far as I can tell and it will be interesting to see what happens with Chelsea this season.


Oh and Trump on stage making it about himself, that’s bloody funny you have to admit.


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1979gooner wrote:
Frankly the WCC is a total waste of space and I refuse to waste my energy even thinking about it

I think the results in it are similar in meaning to pre seasons friendlies, ie meaningless

I like Chelsea, as it gives me a club I can truly despise, truly a moral cesspit

The vilest football club going. Like I’ve always said at least you know where you are with the totts. Chelsea combat 18 nazi wannabes and their ground is national front headquarters. That’s before you even get into the clubs behaviour


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Post #403219  Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:29 am 
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socrates wrote:
1979gooner wrote:
Frankly the WCC is a total waste of space and I refuse to waste my energy even thinking about it

I think the results in it are similar in meaning to pre seasons friendlies, ie meaningless

I like Chelsea, as it gives me a club I can truly despise, truly a moral cesspit


Hi 1979,

Pretty annoying that Chelsea have got £100m on the back of it, though.

That's helps them out nicely financially.

Lot of effort to get £100m though, when you can just sell yourself your women's team for the same amount in 5 minutes


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Madueke to be revealed this week.
Gyökeres to be wrapped up this week
Mosquera new bid going in and likely to get done soon for what seems like a very tidy 20m euros

All on top of the 3 signings we've made. I'm liking the fast pace we're moving at. This time last year we had only Raya confirmed from his loan with obligation. Calafiori was late July, Merino late August and Neto/Sterling on deadline day


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summer business looks like this so far (fixed fees, add-ons not included):

Martin Zubimendi – £51m
Kepa Arrizabalaga – £5m
Christian Nørgaard – £10m
Noni Madueke – £48.5m
Viktor Gyökeres – £55m
That’s a total spend of £169.5m

Add in the Spanish defender at around 20 and it’s 190M ish.

Thats big money. I’d be surprised if Arsenal can move for Eze without a sale. However what options do you have to generate cash ?

Zinchenko probably 12 ish late in the window I bet
Vieira ? Bet he ends up on loan somewhere again
Nelson apparently has most interest from London clubs like palace and Fulham apparently ? 10?
Lokonga ? I mean whatever you could get ? 7-10?

It’s not much right ?

I wouldn’t be shocked if Arsenal did some unusual deal where we got Eze and loaned Nwaneri to Steve parish for a season for a reduced fee. Ethan gets regular football ahead of an England tournament Eze gets his move.


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Post #403222  Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:36 am 
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Fabrizio Romano has given the famous 'Here we go' to the Mosquera deal. 15m euros with add ons up to 20m euros. Which is £13m rising to £17.3m

Kepa, Nørgaard, Mosquera as a trio of back ups for £28m - not too bad


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TOP GUN wrote:
summer business looks like this so far (fixed fees, add-ons not included):

Martin Zubimendi – £51m
Kepa Arrizabalaga – £5m
Christian Nørgaard – £10m
Noni Madueke – £48.5m
Viktor Gyökeres – £55m
That’s a total spend of £169.5m

Add in the Spanish defender at around 20 and it’s 190M ish.

Thats big money. I’d be surprised if Arsenal can move for Eze without a sale. However what options do you have to generate cash ?

Zinchenko probably 12 ish late in the window I bet
Vieira ? Bet he ends up on loan somewhere again
Nelson apparently has most interest from London clubs like palace and Fulham apparently ? 10?
Lokonga ? I mean whatever you could get ? 7-10?

It’s not much right ?

I wouldn’t be shocked if Arsenal did some unusual deal where we got Eze and loaned Nwaneri to Steve parish for a season for a reduced fee. Ethan gets regular football ahead of an England tournament Eze gets his move.

It is big money - but we were very low spenders last summer with a net spend of just £25m, so averaging that and this season together would give a net spend of £105m per season which suddenly doesn't sound like that much for a team regularly (now) in the Champions League
We spent more (net) in 23/24, 22/23 and 21/22

Trossard is being talked up for a move to Bayern as well as those listed, talks seem to have stalled on a new deal for him. Great player but it feels like we need to improve on him to win the very big prizes


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Really refreshing to see us be able to run multiple deals at the same time, for ages it felt like Arsenal only could ever work on the negotiations for one deal. Over the weekend we've seen Berta get Madueke, Gyökeres and Mosquera all (virtually) over the line


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If all goes to plan over the next few days, Arsenal will have six new first-team signings before their pre-season tour. That has never happened before at Arsenal in the 23 years since the current transfer window system was introduced


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Berta is doing a great job.


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Madueke doesn't count as 'home grown' despite being English. He didn't train for 3 years at an English academy between 18-21 (are the broad rules) as he went of to PSV early.

Young english player willing to go abroad at such a young age to prove himself and willing to push hard for a transfer to us when we have a better winger in his position compared to his situation at Chelsea shows the boy has some character and mental maturity (I hope)


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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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Hi 1979,

Pretty annoying that Chelsea have got £100m on the back of it, though.

That's helps them out nicely financially.

I started off thinking the whole thing was a joke but as it progressed I actually thought it was a lot more than a pre-season hit out. There were quality teams in it and they played to win, probably because of the money. To be able to test tactics against good teams and players has some value. Whether those teams fall over with exhaustion in February is the unknown. In the final what impressed me was Chelsea’s quick transition of play. It is something we do struggle with and it’s surprising how it can open up even quality teams. For them it will have built confidence in the squad but do you now give the players 2 weeks off and lose some of that. Plus 100 million is not to be sneezed at.


Their squad hasn't got much of a break though. That might come back to haunt them later in the season.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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Hi 1979,

Pretty annoying that Chelsea have got £100m on the back of it, though.

That's helps them out nicely financially.

I started off thinking the whole thing was a joke but as it progressed I actually thought it was a lot more than a pre-season hit out. There were quality teams in it and they played to win, probably because of the money. To be able to test tactics against good teams and players has some value. Whether those teams fall over with exhaustion in February is the unknown. In the final what impressed me was Chelsea’s quick transition of play. It is something we do struggle with and it’s surprising how it can open up even quality teams. For them it will have built confidence in the squad but do you now give the players 2 weeks off and lose some of that. Plus 100 million is not to be sneezed at.

Spot on for those transitions. Don't like it was Chelsea who did it, but glad PSG were shown to be vulnerable, all seemingly unstoppable teams need to be shown their weakness. 2 best full backs in the world, play the ball in behind them early and get them running back towards their own goal. I really hope Gyökeres can help us in these transitions - the team need to get in tune with him quickly because he looks like the sort of guy who will make the run as soon as we win the ball back, our players need to be hitting him quickly, whether its in behind or in to the channels, he'll chase it and likely win it, then you have the opposition back peddling - no time to get set in a defensive shape, we have willing runners or Gyökeres has shown he's capable on his own from those positions.

Eze would top off a seriously good summer. When you're only gripe is the lack of a world class left winger but you have bought players like Eze and Madueke who can play there it is a solid 9/10 window. If you're being super greedy you sell Trossard and bring in Rodrygo and you get to an 11/10 window but I just can't see us having the finances to do Eze and Rodrygo


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Surprised there hasn't been more noise generally around Xavi Simons leaving Leipzig. I think he's a fantastic player and will be jealous whoever gets him. We need that kind of attacking midfielder in our team, drive, acceleration, dribbling, creativity and goals. Eze looks like the player we've targeted and I'm 100% on baord with that


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Mosquera looks like a real cut price sneaky deal. £13m rising to £17m for a 20 year old CB who is a regular in a top U21 nation and has had 2 full seasons as an ever present in a big name team in Spain, he's 6ft 2, versatile, quick, powerful......sure he's going to be raw and make mistakes but I can't see many other players at such a low price with his level of experience, quality and potential. Very similar to the price Bournemouth paid for Huijsen last year before he moved to Real Madrid this year for £50m


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socrates wrote:
1979gooner wrote:
Frankly the WCC is a total waste of space and I refuse to waste my energy even thinking about it

I think the results in it are similar in meaning to pre seasons friendlies, ie meaningless

I like Chelsea, as it gives me a club I can truly despise, truly a moral cesspit


Hi 1979,

Pretty annoying that Chelsea have got £100m on the back of it, though.

That's helps them out nicely financially.

Apparently the crowd turnout at Metlife Stadium at yesterday's WCC final was at about 82,000 capacity.
All in all that so-called slap on Pedro by Lius Enrique was worked into the final celebrations win. :angel4:

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Newcastle are supposed to be getting close to signing Etitike according to Ornstein. If that happens surely that won’t quell speculation Isak goes Liverpool


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This is all a bit too good to be true.

To redress the balance, it wouldn’t surprise me if they accept a fukoff Saudi offer for big Gab.

Theyflirted last year.


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DHD wrote:
This is all a bit too good to be true.

To redress the balance, it wouldn’t surprise me if they accept a fukoff Saudi offer for big Gab.

Theyflirted last year.

Gabby only signed a bumper new deal in June. Bukayo is the one, 2 years on his deal and his agent doesn’t rush it. He’s currently our best paid player and will want even more. Thats the one to keep your eye on.

I think if they could move out a few fringe players to bring in Eze we would start this season in incredibly good shape


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The one to keep an eye on is when Madueke is announced what shirt number he has. If he hasn’t been allocated 10 or 14 it’s a strong indicator attacker no3 will arrive before the window shuts.

Arsenal don’t issue the numbers on a first come first serve basis.


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I started off thinking the whole thing was a joke but as it progressed I actually thought it was a lot more than a pre-season hit out. There were quality teams in it and they played to win, probably because of the money. To be able to test tactics against good teams and players has some value. Whether those teams fall over with exhaustion in February is the unknown. In the final what impressed me was Chelsea’s quick transition of play. It is something we do struggle with and it’s surprising how it can open up even quality teams. For them it will have built confidence in the squad but do you now give the players 2 weeks off and lose some of that. Plus 100 million is not to be sneezed at.


Their squad hasn't got much of a break though. That might come back to haunt them later in the season.

Fingers crossed, but in reality they should be in rebuild phase and not be a direct threat to us. Let’s hope so.

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Rich wrote:
Madueke doesn't count as 'home grown' despite being English. He didn't train for 3 years at an English academy between 18-21 (are the broad rules) as he went of to PSV early.

Young english player willing to go abroad at such a young age to prove himself and willing to push hard for a transfer to us when we have a better winger in his position compared to his situation at Chelsea shows the boy has some character and mental maturity (I hope)

Then he should have been a lot cheaper if he doesn’t count as ‘home grown’ and is an extra in our foreign squad.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
Then he should have been a lot cheaper if he doesn’t count as ‘home grown’ and is an extra in our foreign squad.

Have you always been such a positive person or did something happen to reshape your outlook on life?

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Vince Ordinaire wrote:
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Then he should have been a lot cheaper if he doesn’t count as ‘home grown’ and is an extra in our foreign squad.

Have you always been such a positive person or did something happen to reshape your outlook on life?

Probably supporting Arsenal and a lot of disappointments has got me here.

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