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I won't hate him if he plays well.
I.just think it's a signing where we could be putting the money to other areas that need immediate attention. I just don't think it's a signing we need to make where Nwaneri is comfortably the back up.
I think a lot of Arsenal fans including myself are getting very jittery that we could be in serious threat of losing an absolute jewel in Nwaneri.

Look at what I’ve said above. Would you consider that a successful summer ?

Yes TG
I'd consider that a successful Sumner.
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Crossy says 200k a week. Ooooh that’s a bit much

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Gyökeres v Sesko looks like it will be Gyökeres then.

Berta has been playing both, the key differences being. Leipzig have stood firm on a huge 90m euro fee whereas Gyökeres is available for about £30m euro less. Also Gyökeres has been clear in pushing for a move to us, Sesko and his camp have been quite quiet - and there was talk of Sesko wanting a release clause in his contract. Sesko is only 22 so maybe he’s still one we keep an eye on in the future, but if it’s Gyökeres then I’m happy, he scores goals!
How many players in our team have their main skill is simply sticking the ball in the net? Maybe only Trossard. We need a killer.


If Sesko really wanted to come he'd have pushed for a move. Gyökeres according to the media was determined to come and we should plumb for a guy who really wants to join us. Madueke/Eze/Winger and possibly 1 more and that is a good transfer window.

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Berta seems to be playing it wise, by keeping many irons in the fire, we're extracting far more value than we did under Edu- if a club knows you only have one target then you get held to ransom

Sesko fee of 90mill is a joke given he's only managed 1 in 3 in a fairly average league

Gyökeres does have some attributes and is far better value - hard worker too


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Gyökeres according to the media was determined to come and we should plumb for a guy who really wants to join us.

Exactly. I like his intensity and he seems the sort of character that will fit into Arteta way of thinking. Holding thumbs!

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Crossy says 200k a week. Ooooh that’s a bit much

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I dunno. Less than Kai :dontknow:


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Madueke is no reject

One of their best players last season

Chelsea have to sell, as their squad is so huge, plus the players are not idiots, they can see Chelsea's model is utterly lacking in stability and security for them

I can see why someone like Madueke would want out

If he was one of their best players they wouldn’t sell him. They would offload someone else.

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Had a look at the Gyökeres goals for last year. He won’t find as many gifts as he received last year in the EPL. Some terrible misses from keepers plus his pens. He will be a player who may adapt. He has no time to find his feet. Fingers crossed.

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I think there is still a good chance we will make a once only offer on Sesko knowing they need to sell him.

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I think it’s going to become evident Madueke is actually a replacement for Sterling, Nelson and Trossard who’s about to leave.

Trossard now linked with Fenerbahçe for 13 million. He has a year on his contract left plus Arsenal apparently have a 12 month option so it’s not really a massive negotiation for Arsenal as he has 2 years left when at that point he’s 32. They don’t need to act really. However for Trossard it’s probably his last chance to get a decent pay rise plus extend his deal beyond 24 months. Just strikes me as a scenario similar to Partey where what’s on offer elsewhere is better than what Arsenal would be willing to do.


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Ash wrote:
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Crossy says 200k a week. Ooooh that’s a bit much

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... r-35510016


I dunno. Less than Kai :dontknow:

And to be fair to Gyökeres, no player in all of Europe scored more goals than him last year - that’s a decent card to play when negotiating your wage for a team who is desperate for a striker to be a reliable goalscorer


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Gaz from Oz wrote:
1979gooner wrote:
Madueke is no reject

One of their best players last season

Chelsea have to sell, as their squad is so huge, plus the players are not idiots, they can see Chelsea's model is utterly lacking in stability and security for them

I can see why someone like Madueke would want out

If he was one of their best players they wouldn’t sell him. They would offload someone else.

Chelsea have been fined by UEFA and with that fine comes certain restrictions and rules on their future deals and balance sheet in order to be able to register any new signings for UEFA competitions.


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If he was one of their best players they wouldn’t sell him. They would offload someone else.

Chelsea have been fined by UEFA and with that fine comes certain restrictions and rules on their future deals and balance sheet in oirder to be able to register any new signings for UEFA competitions.

Absolutely. They’ve thrown themselves in the toilet again.

They are an utter basket case. They signed felix last summer for 47 million and his current contract expires in 2030 but he now wants to move to benfica so Chelsea would have to lower their valuation of £20m. A 27 million loss plus the lost wages where he’s been on loan in 12 months !

If we want Madueke I’d suggest we are in the driving seat and shouldn’t go over 40 million and should start very low. Don’t rush the negotiation. He played in 45 games last year he can’t be that bad.


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If he was one of their best players they wouldn’t sell him. They would offload someone else.


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If he was one of their best players they wouldn’t sell him. They would offload someone else.


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Why must you complicate things >:(

Salah left Chelsea at… 23
De Bruyne… 22

Madueke currently… 23.

I still think 40m is far too much let alone what he’ll actually go for.


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So the latest suggestion is the deal could get done this week and Madueke will cost 43 million quid rather than the 50 Chelsea wanted. So a compromise may have been made slightly. It’s slightly more than I would have paid but still. On the basis Elanga is valued at 55 I don’t think you can argue it’s out of kilter with the market.

43 still won’t beat off the same folks always moaning about Havertz though and he until he starts some games and impresses there’s going to be a lot of needless moaning from people who find last of the summer wine funny.


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So the latest suggestion is the deal could get done this week and Madueke will cost 43 million quid rather than the 50 Chelsea wanted. So a compromise may have been made slightly. It’s slightly more than I would have paid but still. On the basis Elanga is valued at 55 I don’t think you can argue it’s out of kilter with the market.

43 still won’t beat off the same folks always moaning about Havertz though and he until he starts some games and impresses there’s going to be a lot of needless moaning from people who find last of the summer wine funny.


Well how *%^@*** dare you.

I grew up watching last of the summer wine, and I found that old lady with wrinkly stockings fighting off a sex pest with a newspaper HILARIOUS as a 6 year old.

This leads me DIRECTLY onto Noni Madueke who is clearly one of those complete degenerates who found the drama in Monarch of the Glen compelling.


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Hadn’t realised Madueke is a Barnet boy. Might have a bit of a smear of the Totts, but that’ll wash off.


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Down to spending like on Felix, apparently Chelsea have to sell a lot of players to balance the books


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Chelsea have been fined by UEFA and with that fine comes certain restrictions and rules on their future deals and balance sheet in oirder to be able to register any new signings for UEFA competitions.

Absolutely. They’ve thrown themselves in the toilet again.

They are an utter basket case. They signed felix last summer for 47 million and his current contract expires in 2030 but he now wants to move to benfica so Chelsea would have to lower their valuation of £20m. A 27 million loss plus the lost wages where he’s been on loan in 12 months !

If we want Madueke I’d suggest we are in the driving seat and shouldn’t go over 40 million and should start very low. Don’t rush the negotiation. He played in 45 games last year he can’t be that bad.

So you are saying having got themselves in this difficult position with large numbers of excess players they have picked out one of their better players from last year to sell at a low price. Not any of their underperforming players.

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Absolutely. They’ve thrown themselves in the toilet again.

They are an utter basket case. They signed felix last summer for 47 million and his current contract expires in 2030 but he now wants to move to benfica so Chelsea would have to lower their valuation of £20m. A 27 million loss plus the lost wages where he’s been on loan in 12 months !

If we want Madueke I’d suggest we are in the driving seat and shouldn’t go over 40 million and should start very low. Don’t rush the negotiation. He played in 45 games last year he can’t be that bad.

So you are saying having got themselves in this difficult position with large numbers of excess players they have picked out one of their better players from last year to sell at a low price. Not any of their underperforming players.

They can only sell who they get offers for. It’s that simple. Obviously selling Cole-palmer is off limits with their fans but apart from that they are looking to offload players.

He was called up to the England squad recently for the first time and looked decent. He’s started regularly last year. It’s not like selling a guy who’s been sat on their bench.


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You had me for a moment there!

I wish we'd get this deal over the line so we can start worrying about whether he is good enough/ we paid too much for him/ etc.

"Gyökeres is a stampede of a centre-forward, full-throttle his only gear. He would give Arsenal something different, and if they are to finally end a 20-year wait for a title, a little variety can’t hurt."

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So you are saying having got themselves in this difficult position with large numbers of excess players they have picked out one of their better players from last year to sell at a low price. Not any of their underperforming players.

They can only sell who they get offers for. It’s that simple. Obviously selling Cole-palmer is off limits with their fans but apart from that they are looking to offload players.

He was called up to the England squad recently for the first time and looked decent. He’s started regularly last year. It’s not like selling a guy who’s been sat on their bench.

Others on here are suggesting he is a good buy, so I will wait and see. If he comes on board Arteta will have got most of his desired players. I can’t recall any other manager at Arsenal having an offseason spree of this quality.

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Gaz from Oz wrote:
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They can only sell who they get offers for. It’s that simple. Obviously selling Cole-palmer is off limits with their fans but apart from that they are looking to offload players.

He was called up to the England squad recently for the first time and looked decent. He’s started regularly last year. It’s not like selling a guy who’s been sat on their bench.

Others on here are suggesting he is a good buy, so I will wait and see. If he comes on board Arteta will have got most of his desired players. I can’t recall any other manager at Arsenal having an offseason spree of this quality.

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I wonder what is going to happen to Jesus? Presumably he is not sellable in his current state.

Havertz Gyökeres Jesus (if he can get back to anywhere near his best) as striking options would be quite decent.

Or do we need to be seriously considering bringing someone else?

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I wonder what is going to happen to Jesus? Presumably he is not sellable in his current state.

Havertz Gyökeres Jesus (if he can get back to anywhere near his best) as striking options would be quite decent.

Or do we need to be seriously considering bringing someone else?

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I wonder what is going to happen to Jesus? Presumably he is not sellable in his current state.

Havertz Gyökeres Jesus (if he can get back to anywhere near his best) as striking options would be quite decent.

Or do we need to be seriously considering bringing someone else?

He will rise again?

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:laughing7: :20hospitals:

Sorry, Decaf. Couldn't resist that one.

Seriously, I think he will be part of the squad when he recovers from the injury. Even if we sign Gyökeres, we are still light on strikers. He could be useful off the bench in some games.

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Ornstein says we are not even talking to Chelsea about this deal.

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I can’t recall any other manager at Arsenal having an offseason spree of this quality.


So far only Kepa and Zubimendi are in. We’re currently down in terms of squad players. I still maintain one of the best signings we could make is Nwaneri on a new contract. The impact he had in that middle third of the season was incredible, I know he needs to work on connection with the squad and defensive work, but now he’s 18 and he’ll have a full pre-season as a bonafide first team squad player and be fighting for a place. I’m as excited about his development as anything else we’re doing tbh.

I know we’re in a “win now” window, but that surely leaves some room for talents like his.


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Ornstein says we are not even talking to Chelsea about this deal.

I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Did you see their managers comments yesterday. Seemed to suggest there’s goings on.

Chelsea have practically outsourced their recruitment to one super agent and it seems that’s where the dialogue is.

Apparently Bayern are hoping to get nkunku. Dismisses the notion they are just selling bad players to bad clubs


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Say Gyökeres and Nørgaard come in and we could make only one more signing what would you want it to be?

Having said that about Nwaneri you can’t have one player as the back up to both Ødegaard and Saka. You could say Havertz could back up Ødegaard but then the same becomes true of striker.

If Nwaneri sees his future centrally then for me a winger who can play both side rounds out the squad nicely. Rodrygo can and apparently Madueke can. Martinelli has done it passably.

My vote would be to wait for Rodrygo - mirroring the Ødegaard signing after the season started. He certainly seems to be on the way out from the noises coming from him and Real Madrid via Marca. The full anti player hype train seems in motion. They’re demanding 70M+ for him but I can see that dropping down to say, 58 once the season has started like what happened with Ødegaard.

I’m also just loathe to give Chelsea money when they’re in the *%^@ again, but you could strongly argue they’ll just ‘acquire’ the money from somewhere anyway.


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Ornstein says we are not even talking to Chelsea about this deal.

I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Did you see their managers comments yesterday. Seemed to suggest there’s goings on.

Chelsea have practically outsourced their recruitment to one super agent and it seems that’s where the dialogue is.

Apparently Bayern are hoping to get nkunku. Dismisses the notion they are just selling bad players to bad clubs


Nkunku has been a complete bust though.


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I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Did you see their managers comments yesterday. Seemed to suggest there’s goings on.

Chelsea have practically outsourced their recruitment to one super agent and it seems that’s where the dialogue is.

Apparently Bayern are hoping to get nkunku. Dismisses the notion they are just selling bad players to bad clubs


Nkunku has been a complete bust though.

because of injury not because he’s a bad player. Point being apart from Palmer, James and Caicedo everyone is open to a sale


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Say Gyökeres and Nørgaard come in and we could make only one more signing what would you want it to be?

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It’s an interesting question this. Assuming we sign the young Spanish centre back as well as Gyökeres and Nørgaard our spending sits at around 150 million.

I think Madueke is being looked at in the event Trossard is sold (possibly vieira too) and to cover his slot. The trossard fee would be a decent contribution to his purchase so it pretty would mostly even out.

The other 2 players we are constantly linked with right now are Eze and Rodrygo. Feels to me it would be one or the other (despite Eze being an 8 IMO) otherwise our spend would be crazy. I’d say if we could only sign one of the 2 players I’d plump for Rodrygo JUST. He would bring a high level of penetration and creativity on our left flank and would be a real game changer. However I think it would be more likely the club would sign Eze due to the ease of it. We’ve done business with palace recently, Arsenal fan, lives in London already, proven in the league.

If we Signed both ? My gaff would run out of hand cream and all of a sudden my season ticket looks the biggest bargain of all time. It would be ON!


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The stuff about the Egyptian midfielder :laughing7:

Yeah I knew about that yonks ago. Might not be the end of that n all :58big-emoticons: :laughing7:

I had mates in his exec box

Busy few weeks for the clubs lawyers. Our wholesome image has taken a hit. Just need one of the women’s team to haves a drunken punch up and we are in Chelsea territory


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Say Gyökeres and Nørgaard come in and we could make only one more signing what would you want it to be?

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