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Post #481241  Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:29 pm 
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...certainly not someone I recognise as 'Arsenal'.
To be fair, nor did he ever claim to be. He is just the epitome of the modern Premiership player - here for the money and loyalty to a club is a far distant secondary consideration. And who would blame him for that? He has watched his own team manager given *%^@ by certain supporters. So much for loyalty. Sanchez did nothing wrong in declining a new contract. He gave a good account of himself while here and was an important reason for our FA Cup wins and European qualifications.

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El Nenny and Xhaka never get caught offside. Perfect footballers
And as for Čech and Ospina...

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Post #481243  Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:43 pm 
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...certainly not someone I recognise as 'Arsenal'.
To be fair, nor did he ever claim to be. He is just the epitome of the modern Premiership player - here for the money and loyalty to a club is a far distant secondary consideration. And who would blame him for that? He has watched his own team manager given *%^@ by certain supporters. So much for loyalty. Sanchez did nothing wrong in declining a new contract. He gave a good account of himself while here and was an important reason for our FA Cup wins and European qualifications.

:2laughter: I can just see Sanchez chatting to the dogs, 'I really want to stay at Arsenal guys, but these WOBs and the disrespect they show Senor Wenger, it's driving me away...'.


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To be fair, nor did he ever claim to be. He is just the epitome of the modern Premiership player - here for the money and loyalty to a club is a far distant secondary consideration. And who would blame him for that? He has watched his own team manager given *%^@ by certain supporters. So much for loyalty. Sanchez did nothing wrong in declining a new contract. He gave a good account of himself while here and was an important reason for our FA Cup wins and European qualifications.

:2laughter: I can just see Sanchez chatting to the dogs, 'I really want to stay at Arsenal guys, but these WOBs and the disrespect they show Senor Wenger, it's driving me away...'.

Sanchez is the last of the AKB, forcing a move to United as a protest.


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Post #481245  Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:20 pm 
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And who would blame him for that? He has watched his own team manager given *%^@ by certain supporters. So much for loyalty.


I see Hoy's done his post again.


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Sanchez is the last of the AKB, forcing a move to United as a protest.


Let's just hope the northern refs don't target him for his previous association with the hottest team in London.


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Sanchez did nothing wrong in declining a new contract.

Such a shame that Wenger didn't do the same.


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Henry Bolton and Arsene Wenger seem to be cut from the same stubborn cloth. Although Bolton will be gone long before Wenger.


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Henry Bolton and Arsene Wenger seem to be cut from the same stubborn cloth.


Only way to deal with a noisy minority.


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Post #481250  Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:12 pm 
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We also have to ask ourselves how Tottenham have been able to keep Kane and Ali, who have to come under the attention of major clubs. Its only been very recent Tottenham have finished above us and we are the bigger club globally. Why do we lose our best players and they keep theirs?
Dunno. Ask Berbatov, Van der Vaart, Modric, Bale and Walker!

lol..omoh, the recent incarnation of the scum. They were weak then. Walker could be the one exception...maybe since they become good.

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So Sanchez is a busted flush this season yet Welbeck who falls over his feet 90% of the time in the penalty area is a great “multi functional footballer”

I’ve never read such bollocks, even Sanchez at his very worst this season (when he knew he was leaving and was just auditioning for his next contract) was better than any of our other attacking players with maybe the exception of Özil.

I don't know why you have to keep having a go at Welbeck. When on form, he's a bloody good player and is the least of our problems.


I don't necessarily have a problem with Welbeck, he's a trier and deserves a place in the squad but he's awful just awful in front of goal and I'm not sure if you can compete at the highest level with someone like him up top if you wish to win a title.

My response was more based on Bubblechris comment which he then deleted that Sanchez was a busted flush. To describe Xhaka and Welbeck as "bloody good players" whilst saying Sanchez has been of permanently offside, overplaying and useless is utterly ridiculous


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Post #481252  Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:43 pm 
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Thought this was a pretty good read:

Why the departure of Alexis Sanchez might open a window for Arsenal to rediscover their identity

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 71326.html

Trigger warning for Daz, as it contains the sentence 'Arsene Wenger put it as eloquently as ever.'


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Post #481253  Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:04 pm 
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I think on the whole I won't miss him. Great player, but same reasons as you and also struck me as too selfish a player. Not someone I warmed to, and certainly not someone I recognise as 'Arsenal'.

and which players do you recognise as 'Arsenal " ............ Ramsay


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Mkhitaryan has officially signed.

I love how the club is casually trying to make it sound as if they're giving up Sanchez to get Mkhitaryan.


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Post #481255  Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:15 pm 
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News outlets now announcing the Sanchez - Mkhitaryan deal is done.


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Post #481256  Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:19 pm 
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I don't know why you have to keep having a go at Welbeck. When on form, he's a bloody good player and is the least of our problems.


I don't necessarily have a problem with Welbeck, he's a trier and deserves a place in the squad but he's awful just awful in front of goal and I'm not sure if you can compete at the highest level with someone like him up top if you wish to win a title.

My response was more based on Bubblechris comment which he then deleted that Sanchez was a busted flush. To describe Xhaka and Welbeck as "bloody good players" whilst saying Sanchez has been of permanently offside, overplaying and useless is utterly ridiculous


Really I deleted it? Try looking for it it's post 489402 fyi.


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Dunno. Ask Berbatov, Van der Vaart, Modric, Bale and Walker!

lol..omoh, the recent incarnation of the scum. They were weak then. Walker could be the one exception...maybe since they become good.
I prefer to wait and see how many of Tottenham's best players are still with them in a couple of years time before engaging in yet more Arsenal bashing. I know that, and wanting us to win matches makes me an awful supporter, but there you go. "Fly me to the moon...''

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I don't necessarily have a problem with Welbeck, he's a trier and deserves a place in the squad but he's awful just awful in front of goal and I'm not sure if you can compete at the highest level with someone like him up top if you wish to win a title.

My response was more based on Bubblechris comment which he then deleted that Sanchez was a busted flush. To describe Xhaka and Welbeck as "bloody good players" whilst saying Sanchez has been of permanently offside, overplaying and useless is utterly ridiculous


Really I deleted it? Try looking for it it's post 489402 fyi.


Oh sorry there it is indeed. Apologies you did in fact write a stupidly *%^@ post and left there undeleted


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Great to see an Armenian at Arsenal. Have we ever had one before? If Obamayang from Gabon is on, then that could be another first. Exciting times.

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Really I deleted it? Try looking for it it's post 489402 fyi.


Oh sorry there it is indeed. Apologies you did in fact write a stupidly *%^@ post and left there undeleted


Whatever :icon_silent:

Certainly makes for exciting games to come. Looking very interesting and feel certain we can make 4th now.

Man U will start racking early on imo. Lukaku will get a rest and Sanchez will play up front initially.

What will you all moan about now.............


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Post #481261  Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:41 pm 
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Arsène Wenger added:

“Henrikh is a very complete player. He creates chances, he defends well, he can absorb distances and he’s very committed as well. I must say he’s a player who has all the attributes.”



I'd put "absorbing distances" above scoring goals any day of the week :laughing7:


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What will you all moan about now.............
I think there is still plenty of mileage in you-know-who.

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Post #481263  Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:49 pm 
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Can Mkhitaryan play tomorrow?

Anyone know................


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Can Mkhitaryan play tomorrow?

Anyone know................

He came on as sub v Bristol City so is cup tied


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Can Mkhitaryan play tomorrow?

Anyone know................

He came on as sub v Bristol City so is cup tied


Bugga. Swansea (A) or Everton (H) for his debut then.


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I know that, and wanting us to win matches makes me an awful supporter, but there you go. "Fly me to the moon...''


The Hoy Variations.


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I think on the whole I won't miss him. Great player, but same reasons as you and also struck me as too selfish a player. Not someone I warmed to, and certainly not someone I recognise as 'Arsenal'.

and which players do you recognise as 'Arsenal " ............ Ramsay


Hmm, nice try.

Nope, not him neither. (Grammar alert - is it neither? Or should it be either?)

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Hmm, nice try.

Nope, not him neither.

Don't give in so easily, it only reinforces kiwis belief that he's a hard man.

Ramsey certainly feels like 'Arsenal' to me. As does Wilshere, Monreal and a couple of others.


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Don't give in so easily, it only reinforces kiwis belief that he's a hard man.

Still smarting from the CNN jibes ...?

As a mere junior sheep shagger John 1 knows his place ...speaking of hard men , you're little fiesty yourself today ; on the brannvin .


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Wenger on Mkhitaryan: "I’m very excited to get a player in who will be committed and focused."


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As a mere junior sheep shagger John 1 knows his place ...speaking of hard men , you're little fiesty yourself today ; on the brannvin .

It's Monday.


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Wenger on Mkhitaryan: "I’m very excited to get a player in who will be committed and focused."

Seen people interpret this as a jibe against Sanchez, but I genuinely don't think so. There's an article on arsenal.com where Wenger praises the attitude of Sanchez and thanks him for his contribution to the club. He's just very bad at sensing how his comments will be received, but we knew that.


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RIP Jimmy Armfield. A true gent, who's informative insights as a co-commentator will be sadly missed.
Yes, one of my favourites. He was a fabulous right back and we were linked with him in the 1963/64 season. What a capture he would have been. He chose to remain at Blackpool so we got Don Howe instead. That didn't work out too shabby.

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Wenger on Mkhitaryan: "I’m very excited to get a player in who will be committed and focused."

Seen people interpret this as a jibe against Sanchez, but I genuinely don't think so. There's an article on arsenal.com where Wenger praises the attitude of Sanchez and thanks him for his contribution to the club. He's just very bad at sensing how his comments will be received, but we knew that.
Whereas Mourinho is always careful to find the bon mot? Can somebody tell me why some Arsenal fans are so obsessed with deconstructing every word that comes out of our bloke's gob? Actually, please don't tell me. ZZZZ

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Whereas Mourinho is always careful to find the bon mot?

I didn't even mention Mourinho. Has Top Gun borrowed your computer?


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Can somebody tell me why some Arsenal fans are so obsessed with deconstructing every word that comes out of our bloke's gob? Actually, please don't tell me. ZZZZ


I see Hoy's done his other post.


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Saw this.
Mkhitaryan can play as a wide playmaker with Arsenal. In his final season with Dortmund, the Armenian played 43 matches on the wings, and just seven as an attacking midfielder. It’s the complete reverse right now, as he’s played 14 matches in midfield this season, and four as a winger.

So His best performances came as a winger, more than likely drifting centrally. Wenger’s ideal wide man.

Also worth noting he should be very fresh for the rest of the season and won’t be tired by a summer at the World Cup.

Let’s get Aubameyang done as well


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Whereas Mourinho is always careful to find the bon mot?

I didn't even mention Mourinho. Has Top Gun borrowed your computer?


He's on the sloe gin.

Savage indignation at the perfidious nature of supporters questioning the chap at the top. It will not do. It is not the Arsenal way.


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No game at the weekend for us as it’s fa Cup 4th round, which means we MUST go full strength vs Chelsea in the cup semi.


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sorry the word "supporters" should of course have the qualifier "some" or "certain" since the vast silent majority of real supporters are behind our man just as they should be.


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