Gonna white release clause triggered by spurs for £60m. Really strange from Forest to sign a guy for £40-45m and put a £60m release clause in his contract and a 10% sell on fee making it effectively a £54m release clause for Forest.

Spurs have signed Kudus and are apparently chasing Wissa.

Wissa is an upgrade on Solanke
Gibbs white is an upgrade on Maddison
Kudus is a better player than Johnson I think but Johnson was surprisingly effective for them.

Not bad from spurs but they have a tonne of players now, and haven’t got a gk, defence or central midfield to improve them from 17th

This should move things along then ...

Madueke close to being done

52 mill including add ons, hence it's likely around 30 actually guaranteed fee up front ish

Chelsea are pretty desperate for money due to their FFP margins

All the noise around Madueke is way over the top.

Some fans don't like it for a few key reasons:
1. he's from chelsea
2. the price at £50m they feel is too high
3. perhaps they don't rate him or his performances
4. (the worst reason) he's been signed before we sign a striker

Like signing any young player it is a gamble. But 23 years old, regular now in the England team, can play on both flanks, adds pace and ball carrying to our team, a genuine threat from the bench, proper cover for Saka. On the face of it those are all attributes the fans have been wanting - which is why the list above is why some fans don't like it.

It is a signing that will be properly judged a) at the end of the window and b) of course on his performances

All of the above also ignores that Arsenal under Arteta have regularly improved many of their signings with high quality coaching, better than Chelsea currently have, and hes coming in to a much more stable environment. As with all Arsenal signings I'll support him 100% and will be desperate for him to get off to a good start to buy himself some time.

despite paying best part of 1400 quid for my ST i was quite looking forward to the new season until some geezer in Botswana accused me of toxic positivity on the internet because I think Madueke could be a decent signing. Not anymore

That’s what we’ve all been saying.

“I’m so sick of Top Gun’s relentless positivity

Toxic is what it is!!”

Gyökeres is effectively on strike from sporting, he isn’t going to turn up for pre season training.

No one knows the full details of what has gone on but for a player to do this I think it is highly likely that there was a form of agreement between him and the club that he could leave for X amount and sporting have gone back on that.

Forest have reported Spurs to the premier league over their approach for Gibbs-White. It was reported GW had a buy out clause which if true should be a pretty clean one for spurs to execute if they didn't want to deal much with Forest. Forest talking about illegal approach to player. I'm sure every single transfer has an 'illegal approach' in that somehow the buying club will have found a way to speak to the player to gauge whether they want the move and what their demands might be

I note he has 7 caps for England. That has to count for something.

I think it does, its a very competitive area of the england squad - Saka, Gordon, Palmer, Foden, Bowen, Grealish, Rashford and guys like Rodgers and MGW coming through too.

He has the sttributes we need, we need to make him a more rounded player - but being able to start him in cup games, easier league games and bring him off the bench for 25 minutes All to give Saka more rest and have Saka at peak performance and injury free is what Arseanl fans have wanted for ages.

Eze would be a real game changer for us. Another player who can dribble, has creativity off both feet, can unlock a defence, is fast and strong and has goal+assist output.

Spent so far
Arsenal - 144m euro (inc Madueke)
Villa - 7m euro
Chelsea - £243m euro
Liverpool - 213m euro
Man City - 130m euro
Man U - 78m euro
Newcastle - 0m euro
Spurs - 140m euro (209m euro if they get gibbs-white)

Net spend so far
Arsenal - 136m euro
Villa - 3m euro
Chelsea - 164m euro
Liverpool - 150m euro
Man City - 110m euro
Man U - 78m euro
Newcastle - +17m euro
Spurs - 127m euro (198m euro if they get gibbs-white)

We're keeping pace - look at spurs spending a lot of money without much scrutiny

This Gyökeres dispute saga transfer is starting to get more than a little boring isn’t it. We need it wrapped before people start vandalising the mural outside the ground because of Madueke …. Oh

Make us look complete mugs

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... kel-arteta

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 3gzevz398o

No one can convince me this wasn’t spurs fans. I mean they could, but I would refuse to believe it. How can anyone with a straight face say Arteta out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... g5260zzp2o

“Palace demoted from Europa League over ownership rules”

Wow. Pretty seismic. How is it, how the *%^@ is it this isn’t the City group with 20 clubs or Chelsea, but relative minnows and newcomers Palace?? Absolutely stinks. So upset for their fans.

Obviously great for Forest but I couldn’t care less about them, they didn’t earn this, they gambled and lost, then handed a freebie.

No, there are actual Arsenal fans who are that stupid and entitled. They wind each other up on the internet.

True (welcome to the Steve Gleiber Arsenal fans forum ) but these aren’t just internet fans, this was local.

Thank goodness that never happens on here.

Unless he flew over from Botwsana or Queensland especially.

Well, I was examining the spelling for any tell tale clues as to which forumite was responsible!

Unfortunately the word *%^@ is always censored here so didn’t have that one to compare

Only 6 players have scored more champions league goals than Rodrygo. I can’t see us going for him now we’ve signed Madueke.
It would need a big sale of Martinelli who doesn’t appear to want to go anywhere.

The dream would be Rodrygo + Eze + Gyökeres/Sesko and we let Trossard go for £20-30m that would be a £200m net outlay on top of what we’ve done. No chance. But also shows what an unfair advantage clubs who flout financial rules have. We could sell our women’s team to ourselves for £200m (we can set a high figure based on them being European champions and the most prestigious women’s team in the country) then we sign whatever players we want and dominate - easy really

Maresca

“Noni is in contact with the his new club Arsenal and I guess he is going to be (announced) in the next hours as an Arsenal player”

That’s a good point actually. Given all the Premier League clubs recently voted to allow this practice, wouldn’t we be unnecessarily handicapping ourselves not to take advantage of this rule,?

couple of stats and comparisons

Madueke is pretty much Saka-Lite

Madueke up against some of europe and prem top wingers compares very favorably. I think it is a bit unfair putting Rodgers, Eze and Simons in as they play far more central so won't excel on these metrics as much.

In short, Madueke is a threat and he's incredibly aggressive in his dribbling and shooting

Mate, I won’t hide my feelings. I repeat he has this year to win either the EPL or CL. Write it down I will join the Arteta out mob if he doesn’t. No other manager in my time supporting Arsenal has had open slather like Arteta. Time to produce. No excuses. But I don’t condone defacing art. Plus I am happy for other people to have a contrary opinion, unlike many even on here.

His end product is absolutely awful and he nearly always falls over at the end. Whole YouTube videos of it.

given how hopeless we have been at teaching shooting (or going backwards) it’s the skill he’s least likely to develop with us.

A lot of absolute nonsense being chatted (mostly not on this forum) re Madueke and Rodrygo

Madueke is 23yo, on much lower wages, fee up front is around 30mill from what I've heard (add ons on top yes, but fee is nowhere near what Chelsea crony Romano is saying) - he's had a very good season, his goal scoring is around 1 in 4/5 in PL - very decent for a wide player - assists not great, but part of that is probably more related to Chelsea's awful strikers

I cannot see the logic for Rodrygo, on huge huge wages, attitude issues, not PL proven and there's a history of many of these flair players struggling in the physicality of game over here - barge pole for me, I don't think club seriously wanted him - plus he would demand starting - Madueke will be happy to rotate a bit and play 30 odd games I reckon

The key now is getting a CF - interesting to see how this will play out, is Sesko move totally dead??

I don't agree.

The ridiculous fee for Petrovic looks more than a tad dodgy given links between Boehly and Foley

https://www.sportico.com/business/finan ... 234610535/

The fact that he is very slightly reminiscent of Gervinho may be triggering some people's PSTD.

The madueke fee was broken down yesterday as 48.5 fixed with another 3.5 in add ons by football London and others. No doubt it’s an expensive deal but I think it’s a decent signing for the money when you take a step back and remove the emotion from the situation. Elanga, mbeumo and other wingers are going for drastically more.

I think the Gyökeres dispute will get resolved and then there will be one more.

Probably Eze but possibly Rodrygo. Rodrygo would be a massive fee 75+ probably and huge 200K+ wages but would likely bring the star fact excitement but is likely too expensive. I think the club may have looked at it and feel Eze and Madueke is more logical than signing Rodrygo in isolation. However if palace insist on the full 68 million for Eze it might bring Rodrygo back into play.

I think it will end up being Gyökeres, Eze and Madueke at a guess and we will go into the season with a far more powerful squad but possibly still missing the star factor Salah type match winner that wins games by themselves. Could be an interesting season.

I don't think fee will actually be that - they're just swallowing what one agent has fed them - you never know

In grand schemes of current market - it's very decent value - current England player, 23yo and PL proven - the Gervinho comparison is bollox

When he came on for saka for England I actually thought he looked the better performer int the game. He is more direct and want to go at his fullback all the time.

Wenger was talking about PSG and how their success has been built on dribbling and we have missed a bit of that. Defending low blocks he will be very useful and if we get Eze too you’ve got an awful lot of tools to break down sides.

The suggestions were yesterday Trossard may actually get a new deal. That to me indicates we have walked away from the possibility Rodrygo could come

Even if the fee is a little high, it's a decent signing to fill a major squad hole.

You're both wrong.

Do you not understand supply and demand??

You’re all supplying all the wrong opinions and I’m demanding the correct ones.

The silence around Gyökeres negotiations has all the hallmarks of the Šesko stall

Losing confidence that this is going to get over the line.

Can anyone ever recall a player kicking up such a fuss to join us?? Gyökeres seemingly on strike or threatening to and seems to only want us.

Cant think of a single one tbh.

Gallas I suppose with his “I’ll score an own goal if you play me” maybe