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Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:36 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:
Comment tut someone’s altered Tik Tok.

I love elephant sphincters

:14laughter:

Yeah this feature of the forum needs to be on the must fix yellow post it.

Author:  Rich [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:02 pm ]
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Luis Suarez is a free agent. 1 year deal?

Author:  Rich [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:04 pm ]
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Fabrizio Romano confirms Arsenal's 40m euro bid, plus add ons for Martinez. Ajax want 50m euros. Man U are still keen

Author:  long time gooner [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:39 pm ]
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It’s all gone very quiet about Pépé. Or I’ve missed it.

Is there a queue of potential buyers?

Will he still be with us next season?

Author:  warrior [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:38 pm ]
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Not a lot of interest.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... sfer-exit/

Arsenal fear being left with Nicolas Pépé with NO transfer interest in flop £77m winger yet amid Raphinha bid

ARSENAL fear they could be left stuck with flop Nicolas Pépé this summer.
That’s because the £77million club record signing has so far attracted ZERO interest.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:31 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
I'd be interested in this 'would you rather' question.

Win Europa League but finish 6th

Win the league cup and finish 3rd

both scenarios get us back in the Champions League, which has to be the minimum expectation this season. Both scenarios win a trophy, albeit the much more prestigious trophy comes with a feeling of a lack of progress in the league


I've never seen us win the league cup in my time as a fan but a European cup would be far more prestigious. I'd take 3rd and the league cup, thank you.

Rich, do you know if the European Confederations cup or whatever that thing is Mourinho's Roma won last term would get us into Europe?

Author:  Lincoln gooner [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:47 pm ]
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warrior wrote:
Not a lot of interest.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... sfer-exit/

Arsenal fear being left with Nicolas Pépé with NO transfer interest in flop £77m winger yet amid Raphinha bid

ARSENAL fear they could be left stuck with flop Nicolas Pépé this summer.
That’s because the £77million club record signing has so far attracted ZERO interest.

Not particularly surprising. The best bet would be a middle ranking French club given that he did well there before we signed him, but no doubt he’s on stupid wages that nobody else could or will pay.

Author:  long time gooner [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:56 pm ]
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bromley gooner wrote:
warrior wrote:
Not a lot of interest.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... sfer-exit/

Arsenal fear being left with Nicolas Pépé with NO transfer interest in flop £77m winger yet amid Raphinha bid

ARSENAL fear they could be left stuck with flop Nicolas Pépé this summer.
That’s because the £77million club record signing has so far attracted ZERO interest.

Not particularly surprising. The best bet would be a middle ranking French club given that he did well there before we signed him, but no doubt he’s on stupid wages that nobody else could or will pay.

£140,000 per week according to the article.

He looks to be a bigger waste of money than Lukaku.

Author:  warrior [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:28 pm ]
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Wrapping up the Arsenal transfer news, rumours and gossip in the 2022 summer window. Arsenal closing in on Gabriel Jesus

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/transfe ... li=AAgfYrC

Author:  john1 [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:55 pm ]
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long time gooner wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
Not particularly surprising. The best bet would be a middle ranking French club given that he did well there before we signed him, but no doubt he’s on stupid wages that nobody else could or will pay.

He looks to be a bigger waste of money than Lukaku.


He's a bigger waste of money than if they'd signed me and my dodgy 58 year old knees.

Author:  Rich [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:00 pm ]
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AmericanGooner wrote:
Rich wrote:
I'd be interested in this 'would you rather' question.

Win Europa League but finish 6th

Win the league cup and finish 3rd

both scenarios get us back in the Champions League, which has to be the minimum expectation this season. Both scenarios win a trophy, albeit the much more prestigious trophy comes with a feeling of a lack of progress in the league


I've never seen us win the league cup in my time as a fan but a European cup would be far more prestigious. I'd take 3rd and the league cup, thank you.

Rich, do you know if the European Confederations cup or whatever that thing is Mourinho's Roma won last term would get us into Europe?


The winners of the Europa conference League (which Roma won) earns a place in the Europa League. Winning Europa league earns a place (as a 1st seed I think) in the Champions League.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:36 pm ]
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Feels to me like Pépé will have to go on loan probably right at the end of the window to a club who will only pay half of his 140k wages (if that) and has no intention of signing him long term.

Bloke simply doesn’t have the temperament to play in the premier league.

Terrific business that by Sanellhi.

Author:  Zed [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:18 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
bromley gooner wrote:
We bought an American defender, Auston Trusty, in January and loaned him back to Colorado. I wonder if he'll be part of the squad next season?



that his real name or his porn name ?

If we sign Martinez and only sell Mari he would be centre back number 6 for us so I doubt he would be involved.

Bet he never kicks a ball for us. That screams like something done to keep kroenke happy or PR. I wonder if Arteta even knows the blokes name

Oh he's real alright. On loan to Colorado Rapids till July 17, 2022. Then he's all Arsenal. Possibly part of the Arsenal summer tour.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:53 am ]
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Zed wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:


that his real name or his porn name ?

If we sign Martinez and only sell Mari he would be centre back number 6 for us so I doubt he would be involved.

Bet he never kicks a ball for us. That screams like something done to keep kroenke happy or PR. I wonder if Arteta even knows the blokes name

Oh he's real alright. On loan to Colorado Rapids till July 17, 2022. Then he's all Arsenal. Possibly part of the Arsenal summer tour.

To be centre back number 6 or 7 in a squad of only 25! If we sign Martinez that would mean we have 5 ahead of him who are all internationals bar holding and that’s totally ignoring Tommy who plays there for Japan. 7 fighting for 2 positions won’t happen. This blokes not even playing for the US side. Bet you he never starts a premier league match for the club.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:51 am ]
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Chelsea is after Sterling as rumored. Should we be interested?

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:49 am ]
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Gabby Jesus arriving at Arsenal with Edu

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... u-medical/


But he can only play on the wing!

How much are we paying him

He couldn’t get in the city team !


Etc etc

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:12 am ]
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I spoke to a football fan of sorts from my hometown Philly and he said we have a defender, Auston Trusty that is a Philly native (or sorts), from the suburbs (possible interest to Andy Green maybe). Area called Media. I'm familiar with it and his HS. I know nothing about him but he's tall (6'4'" and 23) according to Wiki and got a national team call up so must be decent.


Author:  Rich [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:06 pm ]
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Cheick Dacoure close to signing for Palace for £18m. Looks ready made for the Prem, and strangely the sort of player Palace seem to sign. Strong, tall, powerful central mids

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:53 pm ]
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Some pretty reliable sources reporting Chelsea are trying to hijack our deal for Raphinha. Shame if it happens as I think he'd be a terrific signing for us, but that's the way it goes sometimes. At least Gabriel Jesus is done, that was always the more important signing.

Author:  Darren [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:10 pm ]
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Ornstein calling Raphinha to Chelsea now. “North of 55m” are his exact words. Shame.

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:16 pm ]
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Darren wrote:
Ornstein calling Raphinha to Chelsea now. “North of 55m” are his exact words. Shame.

Romano on it now as well, £60-65m with most of it being paid right away. The club will probably get some flak for this, but it's not like we've been trying to sign him for ages. There's bound to be some negotiation in a transfer of this magnitude, and with other big clubs involved there are no guarantees.

Author:  Rich [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:22 pm ]
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Heard Tuchel wants Raphinha as a wing back. Crazy. If he sticks with his wing back formation, and two central mids Raphinha would probably play one of the two positions behind the striker. They’re favoured striker last year was Havertz.

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:28 pm ]
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It's a shame Gnabry is looking for such massive wages, he'd be a great option as wide forward. Probably not worth breaking our wage structure though, with Saka needing a new deal as well.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:54 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Heard Tuchel wants Raphinha as a wing back. Crazy. If he sticks with his wing back formation, and two central mids Raphinha would probably play one of the two positions behind the striker. They’re favoured striker last year was Havertz.

Where does Sterling fit in for them then

Author:  socrates [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:17 pm ]
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As I've said several times recently, being strongly linked with players is still a long way from actually getting a deal over the line. So many things can go wrong, including a last minute gazumping.

Nobody actually knows the level of our interest in Raphina anyway, it may even be a convenient smokescreen for somebody else. If he was a main target I just hope we have not invested too much time in this and have a back-up plan.

All these people on twatter talking about the best transfer window in our history need to take a chill pill.

Thus far, for all the links with exciting players, we've signed one guaranteed starter and one very promising kid who may or may not be ready yet.

I thought Chelsea's spending might cool with the takeover but maybe not.

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:22 pm ]
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socrates wrote:
Nobody actually knows the level of our interest in Raphina anyway, it may even be a convenient smokescreen for somebody else.

Nah, this part I do think we know. When several reputable journalists report the same thing (us placing bids and negotiating with Leeds) independent of each other, I think that can be taken as solid info. We tried signing Raphinha, but Chelsea stepped in and were prepared to go much higher than us, it happens.

Still plenty of time left though. Martinez looks like a goer, we're clearly pursuing him strongly, and with Man Utd apparently close to signing a left back from Feyenoord, there doesn't seem to be much competition for him at the moment. With both Barcelona and Chelsea interested in Raphinha, it was always going to be risky.

Author:  socrates [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:31 pm ]
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Hazuki wrote:
socrates wrote:
Nobody actually knows the level of our interest in Raphina anyway, it may even be a convenient smokescreen for somebody else.

Nah, this part I do think we know. When several reputable journalists report the same thing (us placing bids and negotiating with Leeds) independent of each other, I think that can be taken as solid info. We tried signing Raphinha, but Chelsea stepped in and were prepared to go much higher than us, it happens.

Still plenty of time left though. Martinez looks like a goer, we're clearly pursuing him strongly, and with Man Utd apparently close to signing a left back from Feyenoord, there doesn't seem to be much competition for him at the moment. With both Barcelona and Chelsea interested in Raphinha, it was always going to be risky.


Doesn't mean we haven't been talking to other clubs about other players whilst the media concentrate on Raphina.

It's a game of poker.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:33 pm ]
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It’s a bit of an odd one really. How serious were we?

60 million is huge money for us to spend on a winger. You would think given the Brazilian connection we could have had him if we wanted.

I was excited about the prospect of seeing him but if the club could bring in a dominant midfield player it could have a massive impact

Not sure where this really leaves our summer

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:42 pm ]
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socrates wrote:
Hazuki wrote:
Nah, this part I do think we know. When several reputable journalists report the same thing (us placing bids and negotiating with Leeds) independent of each other, I think that can be taken as solid info. We tried signing Raphinha, but Chelsea stepped in and were prepared to go much higher than us, it happens.

Still plenty of time left though. Martinez looks like a goer, we're clearly pursuing him strongly, and with Man Utd apparently close to signing a left back from Feyenoord, there doesn't seem to be much competition for him at the moment. With both Barcelona and Chelsea interested in Raphinha, it was always going to be risky.


Doesn't mean we haven't been talking to other clubs about other players whilst the media concentrate on Raphina.

It's a game of poker.


Our 2nd bid was 15 million less than they wanted. That’s a pretty big gap to fill. There was always a chance of getting gazumped. Did we really think our offers were going to get accepted. You either want him or you don’t.

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:47 pm ]
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socrates wrote:
Doesn't mean we haven't been talking to other clubs about other players whilst the media concentrate on Raphina.

It's a game of poker.

Absolutely, I'm sure we have multiple possible targets going on at the same time. But you don't make the kind of bids we made for Raphinha as a smoke screen, you only do it if you're very serious about getting the player.

Author:  dec [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:50 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
It’s a bit of an odd one really. How serious were we?

60 million is huge money for us to spend on a winger. You would think given the Brazilian connection we could have had him if we wanted.

I was excited about the prospect of seeing him but if the club could bring in a dominant midfield player it could have a massive impact

Not sure where this really leaves our summer

I think the question might be "How serious was he?" Initially, he was Barcelona bound but they wouldn't pay the money. We obviously offered more and now Chelsea seem to have topped that.

I'm not particularly disappointed. He's a good player but his best position is right wing and our first choice there is pretty handy. I would much rather we invest the money in central midfield.

Author:  Hazuki [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:55 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Our 2nd bid was 15 million less than they wanted. That’s a pretty big gap to fill. There was always a chance of getting gazumped. Did we really think our offers were going to get accepted. You either want him or you don’t.

I mean, if Chelsea doesn't come in with 65m and Barca can't pay I reckon we could've had him for around 50m (which would still be excellent money for a player unproven at a top club). We obviously mean business in this transfer window, but as we're looking at strengthening several areas of the team and our funds aren't limitless there is a ceiling to every deal.

While this is a bummer, I'm not that worried overall. We're going to sign a few more players, that much looks certain, and there are plenty of good players out there. I wonder if this means we renew our interest in Tielemans.

Author:  Rich [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:04 pm ]
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Moving away from Raphinha a moment. One interesting thing for me is in January we supposedly went very strong for Vlahovic, it didn’t work and now we have Jesus. They are two very different strikers in almost every way. It would seem strange that we’d change the entire focus and plan for team structure, style of play etc in 6 months.
So either, we were never really that strong for Vlahovic or, we were so you’d assume we still want a striker with a similar profile.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:06 pm ]
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I still think we need a wide player. There seems to be some games where for whatever reason martinelli is less effective. If Pépé and nelson leave really we only have 2 natural wingers as Emile Smith Rowe and vieira look more like attacking midfielders. I wonder what our options are

Author:  TOP GUN [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:09 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Moving away from Raphinha a moment. One interesting thing for me is in January we supposedly went very strong for Vlahovic, it didn’t work and now we have Jesus. They are two very different strikers in almost every way. It would seem strange that we’d change the entire focus and plan for team structure, style of play etc in 6 months.
So either, we were never really that strong for Vlahovic or, we were so you’d assume we still want a striker with a similar profile.


I read an interview with Vlahovic where he said he didn’t even speak to anyone from Arsenal himself. If that’s the case how serious were we. I think there’s so few decent strikers about you have to just choose who is available

Author:  socrates [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:26 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
It’s a bit of an odd one really. How serious were we?

60 million is huge money for us to spend on a winger. You would think given the Brazilian connection we could have had him if we wanted.

I was excited about the prospect of seeing him but if the club could bring in a dominant midfield player it could have a massive impact

Not sure where this really leaves our summer


If our idea was to assemble a set of high quality interchangeable forwards, without a traditional no.9, rather like both Liverpool and City of recent seasons, then we probably need to look for another player of a similar ilk.

Martinelli and Emile Smith Rowe are both on that developmental curve which means that whilst talented they are frustratingly inconsistent.

Author:  socrates [ Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:31 pm ]
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I see that Dame Deborah James has died from bowel cancer aged 40 leaving her poor young children motherless.

Kind of puts things into perspective.

RIP

Author:  Rich [ Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:59 am ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
I still think we need a wide player. There seems to be some games where for whatever reason martinelli is less effective. If Pépé and nelson leave really we only have 2 natural wingers as Emile Smith Rowe and vieira look more like attacking midfielders. I wonder what our options are

Moussa Diaby, 17 goals and 14 assists for Leverkusen last year, 22, can play wide left or wide right. Newcastle heavily linked. Price is similar to Raphinha
There were links to Gnabry but I think his wages might be prohibitive.

Some of the other right wingers we’ve been linked to seem to have had their great seasons in teams that predominantly counter attack, so they’re using their pace and directness in wide open spaces that they just wouldn’t get in a lot of games for us. I think this is why Raphinha felt a really good fit - he has pace and dribbling ability but can also operate in tight spaces with technique and skill. His workrate is very high as well - as you’d expect from a Bielsa player

Author:  bubblechris [ Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:20 am ]
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I was told by a close friend of Gnabry that he was not willing to leave Germany for family reasons.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:41 am ]
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To be honest if you offered half the fee for Raphina to Saka to get him to sign a new contract without a release clause I’d prefer that anyway.

Then use the other half to sign another wide player who is a younger prospect or a player more naturally comfortable on the left

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