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| Author: | grantyboy [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
I don't even remember Senderos or Djourou being as bad as Mustafi. Surely the worst Arsenal defender ever. |
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| Author: | john1 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:59 pm ] |
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kiwipete wrote: long time gooner wrote: Wtf!!! Mustafi is a complete joke. Unbelievable ...... and he looks so f***&& stupid in the aftermath . If Mikel persevers with those two clowns I'd be rethinking my loyalty 6 - 0 revisited could be on the cards . Every time he plays, he looks as if he’s going to make a massive cockup any second. Just not good enough mentally |
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| Author: | john1 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:00 pm ] |
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grantyboy wrote: I don't even remember Senderos or Djourou being as bad as Mustafi. Surely the worst Arsenal defender ever. Tell you how bad I think he is; I’d rather Cygan than him |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:00 pm ] |
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grantyboy wrote: I don't even remember Senderos or Djourou being as bad as Mustafi. Surely the worst Arsenal defender ever. Described by someone a while ago as being an exploding clown car. Certainly doing nothing to disprove that. Just dreadful. Certainly worse than Stepanovs and he was pretty dire. |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Supporters Forum |
Why play Mustafi, a player who knows he is on borrowed time at Arsenal? His heart is not in it. Özil is ineffective, takes too much time on the ball. Same goes with Pépé. Wish more would play like Torreira, Saka and Martinelli. |
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| Author: | Gunfire [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:06 pm ] |
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grantyboy wrote: I don't even remember Senderos or Djourou being as bad as Mustafi. Surely the worst Arsenal defender ever. *cough* Gus Ceaser *cough* |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:06 pm ] |
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Statement of the obvious, but we have no creativity and offer no threat (a well as having a joke defence). The only hope is that Martinelli does something special individually again. Pépé still not looking like a £72m player unfortunately. |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:07 pm ] |
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Gunfire wrote: TOP GUN wrote: It is Mustafis fault and god knows he’s hopeless but our defence is always under constant pressure because we as a team are unable to move the ball up the pitch or retain possession. It doesn’t help. This is a full blown crisis again. We’ll be 12th and a couple of wins off relegation again with Luiz serving a 3 match ban. Luiz 3 match ban is a blessing. A useless member of them at CB. Agree, he is too casual and slow. He has reverted to his lackadaisical style. |
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| Author: | dec [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:08 pm ] |
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grantyboy wrote: I don't even remember Senderos or Djourou being as bad as Mustafi. Surely the worst Arsenal defender ever. Are you too young to remember Gus Caesar, Granty? |
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| Author: | john1 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:09 pm ] |
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dec wrote: grantyboy wrote: I don't even remember Senderos or Djourou being as bad as Mustafi. Surely the worst Arsenal defender ever. Are you too young to remember Gus Caesar, Granty? Gus Caesar or Mustafi? |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:11 pm ] |
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Luiz's attempt to clear the ball is ludicrous, such a stupid challenge. So clearly a foul rather than an attempt to defend. |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:13 pm ] |
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long time gooner wrote: Statement of the obvious, but we have no creativity and offer no threat (a well as having a joke defence). The only hope is that Martinelli does something special individually again. Pépé still not looking like a £72m player unfortunately. Pépé is not even looking like a player. He is such a whiner. Play on, instead of "putting hand on head" after every miss, or "appeal for a foul" when you lose the ball. Giroud used to do that too. |
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| Author: | Ash [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:14 pm ] |
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long time gooner wrote: Statement of the obvious, but we have no creativity and offer no threat (a well as having a joke defence). The only hope is that Martinelli does something special individually again. Pépé still not looking like a £72m player unfortunately. Agree on Pépé, he’s very sadly starting to move into potential flop territory for me. Apart from anything else he’s apparently suited to a counterattacking style of play, a style we aren’t aiming for. Although in his defence (I wish we had one) we’ve not got near a recognisable style of play since forever. |
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| Author: | socrates [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:14 pm ] |
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If he takes Martinelli off and leaves Özil on I will be dismayed. Get Özil off and at least leave us with some pace up top on the break. |
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| Author: | john1 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:16 pm ] |
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socrates wrote: If he takes Martinelli off and leaves Özil on I will be dismayed. Get Özil off and at least leave us with some pace up top on the break. Özil has done nothing has he? |
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| Author: | socrates [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:16 pm ] |
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Pépé has amazingly quick feet and dribbling ability but he just isn't able to impose himself on a game. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:17 pm ] |
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socrates wrote: If he takes Martinelli off and leaves Özil on I will be dismayed. Get Özil off and at least leave us with some pace up top on the break. Ceballos for Özil, Holding for Xhaka |
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| Author: | DHD [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:19 pm ] |
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We’re hovering above relegation. We’re where we are. We’re who we are. We’re what we are. |
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| Author: | TOP GUN [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:20 pm ] |
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socrates wrote: Pépé has amazingly quick feet and dribbling ability but he just isn't able to impose himself on a game. Because we give him the ball on the halfway line and he has ZERO supporting runs or people making themselves available so he has to beat 7 players to get to the goal. Where are our midfielders trying to place that killer Freddie ljungberg type pass between centre half and fullback. We can’t play football full stop |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:21 pm ] |
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It's going to be difficult getting a goal from open play. We need force corners and free kicks as close as possible to try to score from dead ball sets. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:22 pm ] |
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...route 1 is going to be the easiest route, that may work once if get the right bounce. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:27 pm ] |
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socrates wrote: If he takes Martinelli off and leaves Özil on I will be dismayed. Get Özil off and at least leave us with some pace up top on the break. Thank goodness that he agrees with you. |
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| Author: | john1 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:28 pm ] |
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Help me out here, I’m getting old and forgetful. Does Pépé actually have any pace? |
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| Author: | DHD [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:29 pm ] |
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Jog on Mezut |
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| Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:32 pm ] |
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Leopards never change their spots. Terrible back pass from Mustafi. But the decision making by Luis in fouling and being sent off shows that he is not and never will be good enough. Lazy defending by both but I am even more annoyed with Luis because Mustafi I expect mistakes. But in the first 25 minutes we did not turn up again. Where is the much lauded change. Arteta was out outhought by Lampard from moment one. You never know we still might pinch one but this game has said a lot to me about Pépé, Lacazette, Luis, Xhaka and Mustafi. A number of them are just not motivated - Mustafi is mentally blown. |
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| Author: | john1 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:36 pm ] |
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Wow - well done son |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:36 pm ] |
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We needed a little bit of luck and got it. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:36 pm ] |
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Martinelli is a star. Miles better than pretty well anyone else that we’ve got. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:36 pm ] |
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Wow wow wow Martinelli |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:36 pm ] |
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Martinelli !!!!!!! |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:37 pm ] |
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Our first shot of the game according to the pundits. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:38 pm ] |
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We are going to get some counter attacking opportunities now. |
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| Author: | gooner7 [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:39 pm ] |
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Now, keep the concentration. Stay focused. |
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| Author: | Rich [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:39 pm ] |
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With all the possession Chelsea have I still feel they’ll get a good enough chance and probably win the game but the character with 10 men has been good. Xhaka has played very well at CB and every player seems to have upped their level and concentration since going down to 10 |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:41 pm ] |
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If he gets within 35 yards or less, Xhaka should put that booming shot to some use. |
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| Author: | long time gooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:41 pm ] |
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long time gooner wrote: Statement of the obvious, but we have no creativity and offer no threat (a well as having a joke defence). The only hope is that Martinelli does something special individually again. Pépé still not looking like a £72m player unfortunately. Perhaps he can double it. He is the only threat that we have. |
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| Author: | Gunfire [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:41 pm ] |
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Rich wrote: With all the possession Chelsea have I still feel they’ll get a good enough chance and probably win the game but the character with 10 men has been good. Xhaka has played very well at CB and every player seems to have upped their level and concentration since going down to 10 I'd have to agree. Can't fault the attitude. |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:42 pm ] |
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I'm not confident we will get the point. Way too much time left. But we'll see. |
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| Author: | Gaz from Oz [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:45 pm ] |
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Now we are starting to put in the effort. Well done |
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| Author: | AmericanGooner [ Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:45 pm ] |
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Why the FBI are we letting Willian get a shot off so close to goal? |
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