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Author:  Daz [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:44 pm ]
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Money doesn't buy happiness = true.

For eight million pounds a year it is not unreasonable to expect 100% commitment from, and a high level of scrutiny of, an employee = also true.

See also Ashley Cole and slavery.

Don't talk about your suffering when you have received 8m for basically doing a job you had to be prised away from.

Author:  Daz [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:56 pm ]
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Decaf wrote:
OK, I'm glad France won the WC ... and acknowledge Mbappe's awesomeness. Vida and Lovren are scum.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/s ... 786870002/


The Croatian football establishment still reeks of nationalism, homophobia and racism. Weirdly some people are more exercised by France's attempt (flawed or not) to uphold the principle of assimilationism.

Author:  Bernard [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:29 pm ]
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Ash wrote:
If we sign a winger or a central midfielder presumably as a regular starter not exactly a problme but fun and games fitting Aubameyang lacazette Özil Mihkataryan Iwobi and another starter in the team.

Do you see Iwobi as a first team regular Ash? At this point in his career, I don't as I think he's gone downhill since coming into the side. Hopefully the explanation for that is simply him being what I call 'Wengerised'. But even if that is the case and he gets better, in my view he has a lot of improving to do before I'll consider him a guaranteed starter.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:47 pm ]
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Bernard wrote:
Ash wrote:
If we sign a winger or a central midfielder presumably as a regular starter not exactly a problme but fun and games fitting Aubameyang lacazette Özil Mihkataryan Iwobi and another starter in the team.

Do you see Iwobi as a first team regular Ash? At this point in his career, I don't as I think he's gone downhill since coming into the side. Hopefully the explanation for that is simply him being what I call 'Wengerised'. But even if that is the case and he gets better, in my view he has a lot of improving to do before I'll consider him a guaranteed starter.


He was the most Wengerised player we had at the end of last season. His previous freedom of movement and enthusiasm had disappeared entirely and the wengerisation had set in like rigor mortis. He probably needs a spell on loan to get rid of the wengerisation.

Author:  dec [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:35 pm ]
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old man of hoy wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
:laughing7: so reading between the lines here you'd be happier if Arsene was still in control .......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLPbGKF_GV0
Always loved that track. Enjoy this stellar line-up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrTMc2i6Lzc

On the football I hope the new manager and his buys do well. Have to say though two 30+ defenders, a mid-ranking keeper and a young French prospect doesn't immediately appear to have shattered the Wenger transfer mould? Big hopes for Torreira - he looks the business.

Yep. It's not a transfer window filled with excitement. Hopefully we will improve, but I'd have hoped for more.

Author:  Rich [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:49 pm ]
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Liverpool sign the Gk Becker for £67m. An insane amount for a gk. Liverpool have jumped to sugar daddy levels of spending.

One thing I do admire is that if they make a mistake or they see an opportunity to improve they go for it. For far too long under wenger, mistakes were made and then made worse by stubbornly sticking with the mistake in some forlorn hope the player would come good

Author:  Rich [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:57 pm ]
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Allison Becker, Fabinho, Keita, Shaqiri....Liverpool have also had pretty much a free run at all those players. Either they’re getting stuff done under the radar or they are blowing the competition out of the water with the fees they’re paying.

If it goes wrong then Salah goes to Madrid/Barca for £150m and they can try again

Author:  Rich [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:05 pm ]
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Spurs’s new away kit looks like a pair of pyjamas

Author:  kiwipete [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:09 pm ]
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gooner7 wrote:
kiwipete wrote:

If he'd asked for help , listened , evaluated the advice he'd still be at the Emirates and happy .

If he'd have read the Gleiber for six months he'd have been more successful .


:53big-emoticons: Best piece yet from the Kiwi man

thank you , thank you G7... perhaps I should have added a ten minute phone call to Singapore would have saved him the effort of sifting through the Gleiber . :laughing7:

Flicked through Jammie Carragher's autobio last night .... 26 May 1989 .. aged eleven gloriously happy he , his Dad and mates went outside and wrote THANK YOU ARSENAL on a wall .... he was an Everton supporter at the time , said they celebrated like THEY had won the league .

Forget Real Madrid , Barcelona , Manchester United ...... Arsenal in their pomp were the greatest team in the world .


...and then in line with a discussion we had recently about fans opting for club over country

Jamie says ' defeats while wearing an England shirt never hurt me in the same way as losing with my club .

Losing felt like a disappointment rather than a calamity . The Liver Bird mauled the Three Lions for my loyalty every time .

Toughest opponent by a country mile Thierry Henry .

Author:  kiwipete [ Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:49 pm ]
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Daz wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
I don't buy into this gibberish about 8 million well compensated bullsh*t , that doesn't have a bearing on anything .
.


*narrator*

it does.

It doesn't .... the 8 million ... he wouldn't have been on that to start with ; he was compensated for his early triumphs but money wouldn't have been the main driver .

For him it would have been the power , passion for football at a big club , the status .

He isn't bitching and whining about his suffering just stating a fact perhaps he stayed too long in light of the way things turned out .

I'm not defending him , what happened was all his own doing ; too stubborn , too dumb , pin any label you want to it BUT what I am saying , given the type of guy he was , no amount of money would have insulated him from the stress .

Tu entiendes

.......That's sorted the little psuedo Chilean alpaca herder .

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:58 am ]
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socrates wrote:
My take on the signings:

1. Torreira.

An exciting prospect if the WC is anything to go by. A proper DM who reads the game well, can tackle and intercept but also has a nice range of passing and seems to be exactly what we need. Will probably take some time to adapt. Seems to take good freekicks, too, which could be useful.

2. Leno

From what I have read he is a player who has never quite fulfilled the potential he showed as a kid and whilst capable of great saves is still prone to occasional howlers. I think he's around 6'3" so it will be interesting to see how commanding he is aerially.

3. Sokratis

If reports from the Boreham Wood game are anything to go by he seems to be a big slow lump with organisational abilities (where have we seen that before) :laughing7:

4. Lichsteiner

Seems to be an experienced back-up for Bellerin. In the twilight of his career but perhaps has the attitude required to kick a few backsides when needed.

5. Guendouzi

One for the future who could have some short term impact. A work-in-progress probably destined for some cup games but may surprise.


I'd like to see us make at least one marquee signing because whilst we've filled a few holes we do need a bit more stardust if we genuinely want to compete with the very best.

Number 1 & 5 good buys. Number 4 may provide some back up for a year plus he could probably teach our players a thing or 2. Leno I have great concerns about. He makes a lot of mistakes. In the 2017 confederations cup match against Australia he made 2 terrible errors that led to goals. Then he has a history with his club as well. If Ospina leaves he will need to improve significantly. We should have spent money on a top keeper because Čech made a lot of errors last year & imo he is on the downhill slope. Too slow & reflexes not as good as they need to be.
Sokraitis - unsure.
Would have also thought unless Ramsay signs in the next few days he needs to be sold. Give Wellbeck a reduced contract & he needs to sign in a week or the same for him. Overall underwhelmed particularly with the keeper. I am concerned that we are targeting Germany for players & I don’t think outside of Bayern the league or players can always fit into the EPL.

Author:  Daz [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:42 am ]
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kiwipete wrote:
Daz wrote:

*narrator*

it does.

It doesn't .... the 8 million ... he wouldn't have been on that to start with ; he was compensated for his early triumphs but money wouldn't have been the main driver .

For him it would have been the power , passion for football at a big club , the status .

He isn't bitching and whining about his suffering just stating a fact perhaps he stayed too long in light of the way things turned out .

I'm not defending him , what happened was all his own doing ; too stubborn , too dumb , pin any label you want to it BUT what I am saying , given the type of guy he was , no amount of money would have insulated him from the stress .

Tu entiendes

.......That's sorted the little psuedo Chilean alpaca herder .


Wenger repeatedly refers to his tenure at Arsenal with a tone that suggests a tremendous sacrifice he made for love of the club: how he leaved and breathed it, how he turned down other offers, how ungrateful all the know-nothings without his years of coaching were, he was almost incredulous that anybody could question his right to decide everything including the time of his own departure. The sub-text of his latest bleating is precisely that: he stayed too long for our own good and at the expense of his own well-being out of sheer desire to make us successful. Humble-bragging - my fault you ask me? Perhaps it was caring too much. It is not, therefore, unreasonable to draw attention to the the massive pay cheques he was receiving and which - much as he might want to downplay it - were presumably a reasonable level of consideration for the terrible burden he carried on his shoulders.

Anyway he may be *%^@*** off back to Japan where he can take a great interest in their culture and eat sushi like it's a novelty he discovered and make like he's a Professor again, the old fraud.

That;'s sorted out the little hobbit-bothering, wheelbarrow-welding, Illuminati-fearing, exile from the Museum.

Author:  socrates [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:55 am ]
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Rich wrote:
Liverpool sign the Gk Becker for £67m. An insane amount for a gk. Liverpool have jumped to sugar daddy levels of spending.

One thing I do admire is that if they make a mistake or they see an opportunity to improve they go for it. For far too long under wenger, mistakes were made and then made worse by stubbornly sticking with the mistake in some forlorn hope the player would come good


Hi Rich,

Cloughie always said that the two most important positions on the pitch are the CF and the goalkeeper.

Liverpool's defence and keepers have been their achilles heel for years and it's been undermining their efforts to challenge. They have partially addressed that with the signing of Van Dijk and if Becker is as good as they say then they will have gone a long way in addressing those defensive issues. I say "if" because we seen keepers with big reputations fail in the PL before.

My concern with Leno is that he was available for a fairly good price and Klopp must know him well and yet he passed on him. Personally, I'd have liked us to sign Butland. Not the finished article but has a presence about him.

Author:  socrates [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:07 am ]
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I think that more important than the signings we make is the work we do on the training ground. If Emery is a manager who believes that a side actually needs something resembling a defence (a novel concept I know) then we could be a very different animal. Just imagine an organised and well drilled defence and a tenacious pressing game.

Author:  Daz [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:10 am ]
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Daz wrote:
how he leaved and breathed it


Bit tired this morning...

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:53 am ]
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We have bought very good players the last decade or dozen years or so and we have always failed consistently at one thing: belief.

If Emery can change the mental toughness of the team, that would be his biggest accomplishment. If we can fight like a promoted side, I'll be happy with that as a start.

Author:  AmericanGooner [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:56 am ]
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We played great team defense in our glory years because we had belief. We had swagger. All the outfield players pressured the ball in City's run last season. They didn't like being without possession and pressured the opposition till they got it back.

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:02 am ]
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On YouTube a couple of stories that we beat Crawley Town 9-0 in a friendly at the training ground and the following day we lost 2-1 to Brentford. Suggests a lot of players got a run. Also states that Leno error led to the winner for Brentford. Sorry I can’t give the link because I don’t know how to give the link to a YouTube video on my iPhone.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:23 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
On YouTube a couple of stories that we beat Crawley Town 9-0 in a friendly at the training ground and the following day we lost 2-1 to Brentford. Suggests a lot of players got a run. Also states that Leno error led to the winner for Brentford. Sorry I can’t give the link because I don’t know how to give the link to a YouTube video on my iPhone.

Leno needs to be dropped he’s making too many errors.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:45 pm ]
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Daz wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
It doesn't .... the 8 million ... he wouldn't have been on that to start with ; he was compensated for his early triumphs but money wouldn't have been the main driver .

For him it would have been the power , passion for football at a big club , the status .

He isn't bitching and whining about his suffering just stating a fact perhaps he stayed too long in light of the way things turned out .

I'm not defending him , what happened was all his own doing ; too stubborn , too dumb , pin any label you want to it BUT what I am saying , given the type of guy he was , no amount of money would have insulated him from the stress .

Tu entiendes

.......That's sorted the little psuedo Chilean alpaca herder .


Wenger repeatedly refers to his tenure at Arsenal with a tone that suggests a tremendous sacrifice he made for love of the club: how he leaved and breathed it, how he turned down other offers, how ungrateful all the know-nothings without his years of coaching were, he was almost incredulous that anybody could question his right to decide everything including the time of his own departure. The sub-text of his latest bleating is precisely that: he stayed too long for our own good and at the expense of his own well-being out of sheer desire to make us successful. Humble-bragging - my fault you ask me? Perhaps it was caring too much. It is not, therefore, unreasonable to draw attention to the the massive pay cheques he was receiving and which - much as he might want to downplay it - were presumably a reasonable level of consideration for the terrible burden he carried on his shoulders.

.


Very well put, it also is worth mentioning that the burden on his shoulders was due to him sticking two fingers up at everybody else and saying “I’m not changing anything your wrong”

Having 40 million quid in your bank account doesn’t bring all massive happiness (whilst it would for me) but it does make it a little easier no?

Author:  gooner7 [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:52 pm ]
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AW, just leave it. You just drew attention back to yourself. You wanted sympathy but I don't think you will be getting much. Definitely none from me. Good riddance.

Author:  bubblechris [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:25 pm ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
On YouTube a couple of stories that we beat Crawley Town 9-0 in a friendly at the training ground and the following day we lost 2-1 to Brentford. Suggests a lot of players got a run. Also states that Leno error led to the winner for Brentford. Sorry I can’t give the link because I don’t know how to give the link to a YouTube video on my iPhone.


Copy and paste the address bar, simples really.

Author:  Decaf [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:39 pm ]
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socrates wrote:
Rich wrote:
Liverpool sign the Gk Becker for £67m. An insane amount for a gk. Liverpool have jumped to sugar daddy levels of spending.

One thing I do admire is that if they make a mistake or they see an opportunity to improve they go for it. For far too long under wenger, mistakes were made and then made worse by stubbornly sticking with the mistake in some forlorn hope the player would come good


Hi Rich,

Cloughie always said that the two most important positions on the pitch are the CF and the goalkeeper.

Liverpool's defence and keepers have been their achilles heel for years and it's been undermining their efforts to challenge. They have partially addressed that with the signing of Van Dijk and if Becker is as good as they say then they will have gone a long way in addressing those defensive issues. I say "if" because we seen keepers with big reputations fail in the PL before.

My concern with Leno is thate was available for a fairly good price and Klopp must know him well and yet he passed on him. Personally, I'd have liked us to sign Butland. Not the finished article but has a presence about him.

Cloughie was right. World class keepers are priceless. If Allison is as good as the likes of Courtois and Neuer 67 million looks a bargain. It's the sort of business we need to be conducting.

Author:  Decaf [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:43 pm ]
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gooner7 wrote:
AW, just leave it. You just drew attention back to yourself. You wanted sympathy but I don't think you will be getting much. Definitely none from me. Good riddance.

Quite right. Dignified silence is what we need from Wenger right now.

Author:  Decaf [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:54 pm ]
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kiwipete wrote:
Daz wrote:

*narrator*

it does.

It doesn't .... the 8 million ... he wouldn't have been on that to start with ; he was compensated for his early triumphs but money wouldn't have been the main driver .

For him it would have been the power , passion for football at a big club , the status .

He isn't bitching and whining about his suffering just stating a fact perhaps he stayed too long in light of the way things turned out .

I'm not defending him , what happened was all his own doing ; too stubborn , too dumb , pin any label you want to it BUT what I am saying , given the type of guy he was , no amount of money would have insulated him from the stress .

Tu entiendes

.......That's sorted the little psuedo Chilean alpaca herder .

Peter ... yes of course he still feels pain and some regret for years spend in a failing project.

Even if it wasn't 8 million most people wouldn't want to hear it.

BUT, 8 million does make a major difference.

8 million

a) would surely dull the pain (compared someone who lost their job and had zero money) and
b) means he get zero sympathy ... nada .... dololo, from most people (including myself). In fact the reverse. I actively do not want to hear about the woes of the very rich, such as the Trump offspring and spouse, the royals, Elon Musk, etc.

Author:  Bernard [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:54 pm ]
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Decaf wrote:
gooner7 wrote:
AW, just leave it. You just drew attention back to yourself. You wanted sympathy but I don't think you will be getting much. Definitely none from me. Good riddance.

Quite right. Dignified silence is what we need from Wenger right now.

He's making himself look cheap, even to those ignoring his remuneration.

Author:  Rich [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:50 pm ]
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Decaf wrote:
socrates wrote:

Hi Rich,

Cloughie always said that the two most important positions on the pitch are the CF and the goalkeeper.

Liverpool's defence and keepers have been their achilles heel for years and it's been undermining their efforts to challenge. They have partially addressed that with the signing of Van Dijk and if Becker is as good as they say then they will have gone a long way in addressing those defensive issues. I say "if" because we seen keepers with big reputations fail in the PL before.

My concern with Leno is thate was available for a fairly good price and Klopp must know him well and yet he passed on him. Personally, I'd have liked us to sign Butland. Not the finished article but has a presence about him.

Cloughie was right. World class keepers are priceless. If Allison is as good as the likes of Courtois and Neuer 67 million looks a bargain. It's the sort of business we need to be conducting.

I understand everything said above but I’d be interested to see some analysis of someone like de Gea last season. Based on his points won vs strikers. It’s dofficult to measure but the expected goals stat can help.
Gk’s can save points and win matches but top strikers earn more points I reckon. Maybe it’s just more measurable with strikers.

Author:  TOP GUN [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:51 pm ]
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Gazidis to Ac Milan rumours growing.

https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/a ... ardo-86601


Wenger potentially being lined up for Gazidis job.

Author:  mcquilkie [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:16 pm ]
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Decaf wrote:
socrates wrote:

Hi Rich,

Cloughie always said that the two most important positions on the pitch are the CF and the goalkeeper.

Liverpool's defence and keepers have been their achilles heel for years and it's been undermining their efforts to challenge. They have partially addressed that with the signing of Van Dijk and if Becker is as good as they say then they will have gone a long way in addressing those defensive issues. I say "if" because we seen keepers with big reputations fail in the PL before.

My concern with Leno is thate was available for a fairly good price and Klopp must know him well and yet he passed on him. Personally, I'd have liked us to sign Butland. Not the finished article but has a presence about him.

Cloughie was right. World class keepers are priceless. If Allison is as good as the likes of Courtois and Neuer 67 million looks a bargain. It's the sort of business we need to be conducting.

Of course, we do, in fact, have a new keeper, and if Leno is as good as Alisson and/or Courtois and Neuer, it is exactly the sort of business we actually have been conducting. Given that Alisson was Szczesny's back-up at Roma, 67 million may or may not be a bargain.

Author:  dec [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:33 pm ]
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I agree with Socrates. Butland would have been a great buy. He's a very talented keeper. If things worked out well, he could be our keeper for the next decade.

Author:  dec [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:37 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Decaf wrote:
Cloughie was right. World class keepers are priceless. If Allison is as good as the likes of Courtois and Neuer 67 million looks a bargain. It's the sort of business we need to be conducting.

I understand everything said above but I’d be interested to see some analysis of someone like de Gea last season. Based on his points won vs strikers. It’s dofficult to measure but the expected goals stat can help.
Gk’s can save points and win matches but top strikers earn more points I reckon. Maybe it’s just more measurable with strikers.

Strikers cost the most money for a reason. Scoring goals is the most valuable thing a player can do.

Author:  Bernard [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:14 pm ]
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TOP GUN wrote:
Gazidis to Ac Milan rumours growing.

https://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/a ... ardo-86601

Wenger potentially being lined up for Gazidis job.

If anything I'd say that article makes a Gazidis move to Milan sound less likely. I presume your last sentence is a joke.

Author:  kiwipete [ Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:49 pm ]
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Daz wrote:
kiwipete wrote:
It doesn't .... the 8 million ... he wouldn't have been on that to start with ; he was compensated for his early triumphs but money wouldn't have been the main driver .

For him it would have been the power , passion for football at a big club , the status .

He isn't bitching and whining about his suffering just stating a fact perhaps he stayed too long in light of the way things turned out .

I'm not defending him , what happened was all his own doing ; too stubborn , too dumb , pin any label you want to it BUT what I am saying , given the type of guy he was , no amount of money would have insulated him from the stress .

Tu entiendes

.......That's sorted the little psuedo Chilean alpaca herder .


Wenger repeatedly refers to his tenure at Arsenal with a tone that suggests a tremendous sacrifice he made for love of the club: how he leaved and breathed it, how he turned down other offers, how ungrateful all the know-nothings without his years of coaching were, he was almost incredulous that anybody could question his right to decide everything including the time of his own departure. The sub-text of his latest bleating is precisely that: he stayed too long for our own good and at the expense of his own well-being out of sheer desire to make us successful. Humble-bragging - my fault you ask me? Perhaps it was caring too much. It is not, therefore, unreasonable to draw attention to the the massive pay cheques he was receiving and which - much as he might want to downplay it - were presumably a reasonable level of consideration for the terrible burden he carried on his shoulders.

Anyway he may be *%^@*** off back to Japan where he can take a great interest in their culture and eat sushi like it's a novelty he discovered and make like he's a Professor again, the old fraud.

That;'s sorted out the little hobbit-bothering, wheelbarrow-welding, Illuminati-fearing, exile from the Museum.


Shucks ... think I'll wave the white flag on this one Cobber.

Never have I been subjected to such a verbal tongue lashing .... making the planters , welding things ...hobbies I've enjoyed down the years will never seem the same again .

I timorously point out in light of your obsession with punctuation correctness .... you've written "leaved' instead of lived and somehow managed to sandwich in a semi colon in that's starting the last sentence

Author:  kiwipete [ Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:13 am ]
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Decaf wrote:
kiwipete wrote:

For him it would have been the power , passion for football at a big club , the status .

He isn't bitching and whining about his suffering just stating a fact perhaps he stayed too long in light of the way things turned out .

I'm not defending him , what happened was all his own doing ; too stubborn , too dumb , pin any label you want to it BUT what I am saying , given the type of guy he was , no amount of money would have insulated him from the stress .

Tu entiendes

.......That's sorted the little psuedo Chilean alpaca herder .

Peter ... yes of course he still feels pain and some regret for years spend in a failing project.

Even if it wasn't 8 million most people wouldn't want to hear it.

BUT, 8 million does make a major difference.

8 million

a) would surely dull the pain (compared someone who lost their job and had zero money) and
b) means he get zero sympathy ... nada .... dololo, from most people (including myself). In fact the reverse. I actively do not want to hear about the woes of the very rich, such as the Trump offspring and spouse, the royals, Elon Musk, etc.

What I'm saying Decaf ... the 8 million wouldn't come into the equation while in the Arsenal job .

Sure as you say it dulls the pain versus being penniless BUT Arsene isn't the type who can get his rocks off making a planters wheelbarrow , designing and welding racks for his son's truck , getting stuck into a bottle of rum with a couple of mates ... he is a simpering pansy who LIVES and breathes football .

Some reporter coming around to ask any sort of question would make his week .

The point I'm making is money wouldn't matter one iota to him because right now he'd feel an unloved directionless tw*t .

"No sympathy " ... I felt sorry for him only because he was too stupid to ask for advice ...

but " Hey not everyone's perfect although Mrs Kiwi thinks I'm pretty damn close" .

Author:  Gaz from Oz [ Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:01 am ]
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bubblechris wrote:
Gaz from Oz wrote:
On YouTube a couple of stories that we beat Crawley Town 9-0 in a friendly at the training ground and the following day we lost 2-1 to Brentford. Suggests a lot of players got a run. Also states that Leno error led to the winner for Brentford. Sorry I can’t give the link because I don’t know how to give the link to a YouTube video on my iPhone.


Copy and paste the address bar, simples really.

There is no address bar but try this
https://youtu.be/l79XUEEX_S8

Author:  bubblechris [ Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:57 am ]
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Gaz from Oz wrote:
bubblechris wrote:

Copy and paste the address bar, simples really.

There is no address bar but try this
https://youtu.be/l79XUEEX_S8


Cheers Gaz. Leno could have been a one off. Hopefully coaches will help him with switch to Prem. Very different from European games here goalies get so much protection.

Author:  warrior [ Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:48 pm ]
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Arsenal ready to sell striker for £15million

Arsenal manager, Unai Emery, is ready to offload striker Danny Welbeck this summer, as he looks to trim his squad ahead of the 2018/2019 campaign.

http://dailypost.ng/2018/07/21/arsenal-ready-sell-striker-15million/

Author:  Decaf [ Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:38 pm ]
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Rich wrote:
Decaf wrote:
Cloughie was right. World class keepers are priceless. If Allison is as good as the likes of Courtois and Neuer 67 million looks a bargain. It's the sort of business we need to be conducting.

I understand everything said above but I’d be interested to see some analysis of someone like de Gea last season. Based on his points won vs strikers. It’s dofficult to measure but the expected goals stat can help.
Gk’s can save points and win matches but top strikers earn more points I reckon. Maybe it’s just more measurable with strikers.

I suppose you could look at the average points of the team with and without the first choice keeper, and the same for the first choice striker. But I think you are probably right. Keeper is the position where having someone slightly below par is the most costly, as we are only too bitterly aware. Whereas up front is where having the very best quality translates most to points--but in the modern game where we are seeing keepers like Nueur the gap is diminishing.

Author:  Rich [ Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Supporters Forum

So which players are going to leave? Arsenal have 32 players listed as in the first team squad on the official website.

That includes Asano and Reine-Adelaide - who will probably both be on loan. Akpom is on the verge of a £2m deal and it looks pretty certain that Ospina, Campbell and Jenkinson will go. That brings it down to 26 - still a big squad.

I expect one of Welbeck and Perez to go. Maybe somewhere around £15m. Add in small fees from the above and we should look to recoup £25-30m. bringing the summer spend to £40m (ish)

I'd still like to see another pacey wide player come in.

Author:  Bernard [ Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Supporters Forum

Rich wrote:
I'd still like to see another pacey wide player come in.

There's one at Everton called Theo something or other who might be available. :laughing7:

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