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Post #393601  Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:35 pm 
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Oh that’s pathetic refereeing to give both players a yellow card for that. Absolutely nothing in that. Ruiz gave Calafiori a nudge as he went to get the ball for the throw, Calafiori gave him a nudge back and the ref books the both.


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Luckily that handball wasn't in the EPL, penalty would have been happily given against us.

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Got away with one there. Thought the ref was going to give the pen.


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Saliba has been superb all night.


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Muani dropped himself down when he knew he wasn't getting to the ball

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Havertz man of the match for me.

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A satisfying win, pleasing on the eye tonight :53big-emoticons:

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FT 2-0 very good win against a top side. Puts us in a good position in the CL with some easier games to come.

Trossard was superb first half, the centre of everything good we did.
Rice was brilliant all game, that was a talented PSG midfield but he stood head and shoulders above them all.
Havertz also with a fantastic shift up top, got his goal, works tirelessly and held the ball up so well.

Shout out also to Kiwior who didn’t put a foot wrong when he came on


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Post #393609  Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:05 pm 
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A typical performance from us really.

In control but not killing teams off.

Martinelli misses his big chance with the volley. Come on Gabby you should have buried that

Jesus cameo full of over playing.

And the usual immense defensive display.


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Post #393610  Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:07 pm 
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Rich wrote:
FT 2-0 very good win against a top side. Puts us in a good position in the CL with some easier games to come.

Trossard was superb first half, the centre of everything good we did.
Rice was brilliant all game, that was a talented PSG midfield but he stood head and shoulders above them all.
Havertz also with a fantastic shift up top, got his goal, works tirelessly and held the ball up so well.

Shout out also to Kiwior who didn’t put a foot wrong when he came on

Martinelli looks are real threat again too. He's more of an inside left than a genuine winger, and Trossard allow him to get into those dangerous spaces.

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Girona (a)

Win the 3 home games which we should would give us 13 points. The experts reckon 16 points is the target to get in the top 8. There’s two tough away games at Inter and Sporting. It would be nice to have sealed the top 8 position before the final game so we can rest players. Girona finished 3rd in La Liga last year (part of the City group) but they’re nowhere near that this year, currently in 12th


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I’d love Nwaneri to get a start v Southampton but how can Arteta drop Trossard - perhaps he’s playing so well that this is the game you rest him for. It’s a risk but Arteta does need to get a bit better at rotating. Jorginho could come in to give Partey a rest. Maybe Sterling gets a start.

I’d keep the spine of Raya, Gabriel, Saliba, Rice, Saka, Havertz and rotate around that


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Post #393613  Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 9:12 pm 
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Didn’t really see much from Merino after he came on.

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Rich wrote:
I’d love Nwaneri to get a start v Southampton but how can Arteta drop Trossard - perhaps he’s playing so well that this is the game you rest him for. It’s a risk but Arteta does need to get a bit better at rotating. Jorginho could come in to give Partey a rest. Maybe Sterling gets a start.

I’d keep the spine of Raya, Gabriel, Saliba, Rice, Saka, Havertz and rotate around that

For saints I think you might see more rotation than is expected,

Sterling, Jorginho and Jesus starting.


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0.31xG for PSG, that’s the lowest xG in all 69 CL games PSG have played where this data was collected.

I hate watching other teams attack us but this team just makes you feel incredibly relaxed about us defending.


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We were a party of 4 for tonight. 2 of my mates dropped out yesterday so I put the two tickets on the Ticket Exchange - sold in 4 minutes.

Tonight there were 2 PSG supporters in those seats, scarves and singing and everything. Didn’t really bother me but that’s not supposed to happen.


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Post #393619  Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:44 am 
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We were a party of 4 for tonight. 2 of my mates dropped out yesterday so I put the two tickets on the Ticket Exchange - sold in 4 minutes.

Tonight there were 2 PSG supporters in those seats, scarves and singing and everything. Didn’t really bother me but that’s not supposed to happen.

No it’s not. The digitalisation of the stadium was supposed to change all That. I’m assuming the tickets had been sold to someone who touted them out to the frenchies for the highest possible price. That really isn’t supposed to happen.

I have been unable to attend any recent matches due to a sickness in my family and my ticket for the game like yours sold in just minutes. Last year I know someone who lives abroad who paid 370 quid for a ticket off a tout on the title run in so it hasn’t been stopped at all.


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https://x.com/dailyafc/status/184111744 ... -j6VVZXEoA

Bench celebration for the 3rd goal v Leicester. Lasts about 2 seconds then all straight to business about the plan for the remaining 4 minutes of the match. Details


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Post #393621  Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:25 am 
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Good game last night, enjoyed the tactical aspects.

Havertz superb, great games from Rice, Partey, Saliba and Gabriel M. Thought Calafiori's lack of pace was exposed a couple of times.

Jesus Jesus, you had a couple of great opportunities to play in your team mates, and fluffed it. A case of trying too hard?

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Rich wrote:
https://x.com/dailyafc/status/1841117441985810807?s=46&t=fkwaCrtFB5yR-j6VVZXEoA

Bench celebration for the 3rd goal v Leicester. Lasts about 2 seconds then all straight to business about the plan for the remaining 4 minutes of the match. Details


I love the way Arteta clearly listens to and values his coaches' input.

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Great win. Good performance.

If I am honest I would have liked to have seen us have a bit more of the possession in the 2nd half and when we did win it back to keep it better.

65%-35% possession in favour of PSG in the whole match seems a bit too much especially at home.

Luckily, PSG lacked a cutting edge without a centre forward and all their possession came to little.

Havertz was superb. Saliba and Gabi top notch as usual. Pretty much everyone played well.

I know at 2-0 the mindset is to sit back and protect what you have but I think we are better than that and have players with the technical quality to keep the ball as well as any other side in the competition bar perhaps City.


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Post #393624  Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 8:35 am 
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Great win. Good performance.

If I am honest I would have liked to have seen us have a bit more of the possession in the 2nd half and when we did win it back to keep it better.

65%-35% possession in favour of PSG in the whole match seems a bit too much especially at home.

Luckily, PSG lacked a cutting edge without a centre forward and all their possession came to little.

Havertz was superb. Saliba and Gabi top notch as usual. Pretty much everyone played well.

I know at 2-0 the mindset is to sit back and protect what you have but I think we are better than that and have players with the technical quality to keep the ball as well as any other side in the competition bar perhaps City.


I think the possession is one thing but more of a problem in my eyes is that we miss at least one bonafide sitter that simply ends the game in pretty every match we lead. Last night Gabby missed the volley then hit another straight at the keeper. Would have just totally ended the contest.

Saturday 2 nil up at half time in the most one sided game ever then it’s just level.

We just can’t kill games off like city and others and seem to rely on our ability to fight for a result in every minute of every game.


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Great win. Good performance.

If I am honest I would have liked to have seen us have a bit more of the possession in the 2nd half and when we did win it back to keep it better.

65%-35% possession in favour of PSG in the whole match seems a bit too much especially at home.

Luckily, PSG lacked a cutting edge without a centre forward and all their possession came to little.

Havertz was superb. Saliba and Gabi top notch as usual. Pretty much everyone played well.

I know at 2-0 the mindset is to sit back and protect what you have but I think we are better than that and have players with the technical quality to keep the ball as well as any other side in the competition bar perhaps City.


I think the possession is one thing but more of a problem in my eyes is that we miss at least one bonafide sitter that simply ends the game in pretty every match we lead. Last night Gabby missed the volley then hit another straight at the keeper. Would have just totally ended the contest.

Saturday 2 nil up at half time in the most one sided game ever then it’s just level.

We just can’t kill games off like city and others and seem to rely on our ability to fight for a result in every minute of every game.


I agree, TG, we definitely lack that killer instinct. Martinelli had at least 2 decent chances and Jesus went for a solo goal instead of squaring it late in the game.

Had PSG scored in the 2nd half it could have been a very tricky ending to the game.

I do wonder if someone like Gyokeres (or a player of that ilk) could help us in that respect. Probably too expensive but scores all sorts of goals and provides assists as well.


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Just a word of praise for that Ref last night.

He showed our lame-brained bunch that not every challenge is a foul, not every foul is a card and not every incident in the box need be referred to VAR.

Take the lesson, Oliver.


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TOP GUN wrote:
DHD wrote:
We were a party of 4 for tonight. 2 of my mates dropped out yesterday so I put the two tickets on the Ticket Exchange - sold in 4 minutes.

Tonight there were 2 PSG supporters in those seats, scarves and singing and everything. Didn’t really bother me but that’s not supposed to happen.

No it’s not. The digitalisation of the stadium was supposed to change all That. I’m assuming the tickets had been sold to someone who touted them out to the frenchies for the highest possible price. That really isn’t supposed to happen.

I have been unable to attend any recent matches due to a sickness in my family and my ticket for the game like yours sold in just minutes. Last year I know someone who lives abroad who paid 370 quid for a ticket off a tout on the title run in so it hasn’t been stopped at all.


I’ve emailed the club for an explanation. Not hopeful.

Few weeks ago, there was a Norwegian couple in the seats of another ST holder. They’d apparently paid £900 for their tickets. No idea how they got their tickets or who from, but those are ST seats.


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Just a word of praise for that Ref last night.

He showed our lame-brained bunch that not every challenge is a foul, not every foul is a card and not every incident in the box need be referred to VAR.

Take the lesson, Oliver.


It comes from Howard Webb at the top DHD. He's the one that sets the agenda.

Time to get rid of the useless, biased a hole.

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Havertz man of the match for me.


Deservedly he got it. The outlet he provided for longer balls into midfield and he won nearly all of them. Huge effort to keep leaping like that for 90 mins and also his hold up play was excellent. Brilliant performance.

Rest of the team equally hard working and held their shape so well. Kiwior did well considering he's had so little game time. Minor disappointment was Jesus who seems to be sulking a bit and didn't put in much effort even though he had the fresh legs.

Shay Given in the comments after match. "I'm still yet to be convinced until they win some silverware". So easy to be the contrarian. Mug.


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Didn’t really see much from Merino after he came on.

Early days obviously


Yep early days. We weren't on the ball much by that stage and he did tidy up quite efficiently when needed. Also seemed to pull out of an upper body challenge right near the end so suspect he's still a bit nervous of his injury.


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DHD wrote:
Just a word of praise for that Ref last night.

He showed our lame-brained bunch that not every challenge is a foul, not every foul is a card and not every incident in the box need be referred to VAR.

Take the lesson, Oliver.

100% - he just went unnoticed. The only thing I didn't like was him being a bit over eager to yellow card Calfiori and Ruiz for the smallest of little pushes on each other. I'd have preferred a talking to to both 'Come on lads, the games been played in a good spirit with no yellow cards, don't over step it and ruin it - last chance for both of you'

But overall just very, very good. He was last seasons CL final ref. He's Slovenian - no offence to the Slovenian football league but he's wasted refereeing matches there, get him over to England and pay him appropriately.


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grantyboy wrote:

Shay Given in the comments after match. "I'm still yet to be convinced until they win some silverware". So easy to the contrarian. Mug.

it is such a strange stance pundits take - basically one where they can claim to always be right. Arsenal aren't good enough until they win something, as soon as we win something, yes they are good enough. See I was right both times.


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Rest of the team equally hard working and held their shape so well. Kiwior did well considering he's had so little game time. Minor disappointment was Jesus who seems to be sulking a bit and didn't put in much effort even though he had the fresh legs.
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Jesus seems to be intent on trying to dribble past his man every time at the moment, and quite often loses the ball. Bit too desperate to impress. Just play passes, run, move in to space and the team will find you.


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Havertz superb, great games from Rice, Partey, Saliba and Gabriel M. Thought Calafiori's lack of pace was exposed a couple of times.

To be fair to Calafiori he was exposed by Hakimi who is just about one of the quickest players in the world. It is a slight downside in putting CB in the full back positions, they are less likely to be as quick across the ground as a more slightly built speedy full back. We tend to protect it quite well.


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I was thinking about the second half last night and wondering did we sit off thinking there was no need to expend so much energy with the high press - which is very difficult to keep up for 90 minutes. Or did we sit off because we had to because we couldn't get hold of the game?

I thought about whether we're able to win the CL this season. I think if each knock out game was 1 leg rather than 2 we'd have a better chance. In theory our attributes of a robust defence and attacking set piece prowess should suit knock out football but I'm still left with a feeling that we're still short of some X Factor to win the CL and will need some luck to do so.

Away games v Inter and Sporting will tell us a lot, are we able to dominate and impose our game on them?

I'm not sure we're the team yet who dominates the ball for 90 minutes no matter the opponent, currently I think we're comfortable with that and certainly once we've established a lead in a game. but as we (hopefully) get deeper in to the tournament we'll face some very good teams who also give up very few chances and that's where you need your X Factor, a moment of individual brilliance without having to build up pressure, and a clinical ability to have 1 chance and score it.

I was comfortable and confident facing PSG at home last night. I still think Real Madrid, Bayern and City are ahead of us in the CL. I'd put us in the group below with the likes of Liverpool, Inter, Barcelona, PSG - and then below that there is a group of some teams that would be really tough to beat over 2 legs - Leverkusen, Sporting, Dortmund, Atletico, Villa!, Juve, Atalanta. Those teams mentioned might not be far off making up the round of 16 this year


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Rich wrote:
https://x.com/dailyafc/status/1841117441985810807?s=46&t=fkwaCrtFB5yR-j6VVZXEoA

Bench celebration for the 3rd goal v Leicester. Lasts about 2 seconds then all straight to business about the plan for the remaining 4 minutes of the match. Details


I love the way Arteta clearly listens to and values his coaches' input.

We need to have a plan if any of them get poached in to more senior roles by smaller clubs. There is talk of Arsenal offering Jorginho a place on the coaching staff - he pretty much coaches the team when he's a sub as he can use the ruse of 'warming up' to get all the way up and down the touchline while Arteta has to stick to his technical area (which he doesn't and it really winds people up! haha)


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socrates wrote:
TOP GUN wrote:

I think the possession is one thing but more of a problem in my eyes is that we miss at least one bonafide sitter that simply ends the game in pretty every match we lead. Last night Gabby missed the volley then hit another straight at the keeper. Would have just totally ended the contest.

Saturday 2 nil up at half time in the most one sided game ever then it’s just level.

We just can’t kill games off like city and others and seem to rely on our ability to fight for a result in every minute of every game.


I agree, TG, we definitely lack that killer instinct. Martinelli had at least 2 decent chances and Jesus went for a solo goal instead of squaring it late in the game.

Had PSG scored in the 2nd half it could have been a very tricky ending to the game.

I do wonder if someone like Gyokeres (or a player of that ilk) could help us in that respect. Probably too expensive but scores all sorts of goals and provides assists as well.



At least Martinelli is getting into the right positions and making better decisions. I'm hopeful that our left side is on the up as is his finishing. He's a big weapon for us potentially.

Jesus on the other hand ... someone needs to tell him there is more than one way of impressing. Hogging the ball and running into blind alleys isn't one of them.

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Do we have any players who can actually only play and excel in just one position? Trossard has got me thinking about how he's just taken to this new floating central position so well.

The squad is so flexible:
Last night we had our first 3 choice right-backs out once Timber went off, not an issue.
White - RB/CB
Tomiyasu - RB/LB/CB
Calafiori - LB/CB....RB!
Timber - RB/LB/CB
Kiwior - CB/LB
Saliba and Gabriel only play CB but no doubt they could play RB and LB respectively if needed
Zinchenko - LB/LM
MLS - LB/CM
Rice - No.6/N0.8....CB
Partey and Jorginho really only play as the holding mid - although there was that experiment with Partey at RB
Ødegaard only plays as a right 8 - but could clearly play anywhere central
Nwaneri - No.8/RW
Saka - RW/LW/No.8/wing back, full back
Martinelli - LW/RW/FW
Havertz - FW/L8/R8
Trossard - LW/RW/FW/No.8
Sterling - LW/RW/FW
Jesus - FW/RW/LW


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Decaf wrote:
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I agree, TG, we definitely lack that killer instinct. Martinelli had at least 2 decent chances and Jesus went for a solo goal instead of squaring it late in the game.

Had PSG scored in the 2nd half it could have been a very tricky ending to the game.

I do wonder if someone like Gyokeres (or a player of that ilk) could help us in that respect. Probably too expensive but scores all sorts of goals and provides assists as well.



At least Martinelli is getting into the right positions and making better decisions. I'm hopeful that our left side is on the up as is his finishing. He's a big weapon for us potentially.

Jesus on the other hand ... someone needs to tell him there is more than one way of impressing. Hogging the ball and running into blind alleys isn't one of them.

Jesus is playing like a 10 year old. His football intelligence is on the floor at the moment. I wonder if his sparkling form when he first joined was just a purple patch. He was always only OK at City.

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DHD wrote:
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No it’s not. The digitalisation of the stadium was supposed to change all That. I’m assuming the tickets had been sold to someone who touted them out to the frenchies for the highest possible price. That really isn’t supposed to happen.

I have been unable to attend any recent matches due to a sickness in my family and my ticket for the game like yours sold in just minutes. Last year I know someone who lives abroad who paid 370 quid for a ticket off a tout on the title run in so it hasn’t been stopped at all.


I’ve emailed the club for an explanation. Not hopeful.

Few weeks ago, there was a Norwegian couple in the seats of another ST holder. They’d apparently paid £900 for their tickets. No idea how they got their tickets or who from, but those are ST seats.

I've been looking at coming over from Ireland for a game. I don't trust the ticket sales websites so just looking at official packages through travel operators. You can't get tickets on their own, has to include a hotel. It's £500/600 per person. High profile games such as Liverpool or Spuds would be dearer. Those are through bona fide official channels so the touts must be charging a fortune altogether.

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