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Post #514361  Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:05 am 
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Classy. We are lucky to have him.

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Post #514362  Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:11 am 
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He's clearly hugely respected by the players already. I read a really good interview with Martinez where amongst all sorts of things he talked about how Arteta once went in to detail about which foot Martinez should control a backpass with (ie: not always his strongest right foot) because it would give him more time. Obviously it sounds simple but if players have always done what comes naturally and no one has explained the benefits of these very small changes then they'll just always do it.

I recall a similar thing with Sterling when Arteta was a coach, he basically did 1 on 1 training with Sterling's movement and finishing - which coincided with Sterling moving from a 10 goal a season player to a 20 goal a season player.

It is still very early days but I like what I'm hearing.


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No worries, I've already alerted Edu.


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Post #514365  Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:27 am 
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I haven't been this excited about a young defender since we signed Upson. :42laughter:
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In all seriousness, a lot of expectations on his young shoulders.

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Post #514366  Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:32 am 
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Some serious rumblings that we're working on a loan deal for Coutinho where Barcelona will pay some of his wages. Have to say I'm all for it under those conditions, it seems like a good way to make us more competitive in the short term while making sure most of our budget is saved for signings that are a better fit for our long term plans. I know fans generally look down on loaning in players, but again we have to be pragmatic this summer.


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Post #514367  Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:33 pm 
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Arsenal legend Cesc Fabregas
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Some serious rumblings that we're working on a loan deal for Coutinho where Barcelona will pay some of his wages. Have to say I'm all for it under those conditions, it seems like a good way to make us more competitive in the short term while making sure most of our budget is saved for signings that are a better fit for our long term plans. I know fans generally look down on loaning in players, but again we have to be pragmatic this summer.


Sounds good to me, Coutinho has the quality we are lacking and he'd be a great signing on those terms imo.

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Gunfire wrote:
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/der-spiegel-report-casts-doubt-over-man-city-s-cas-appeal-1.4318118

It is all broken. People will delve in to emails and contract and football law and FFP intricacies but the reality is if we all take a step back and look at what has been done. You have the company owned by the owner of a football club sponsoring that football club for huge amounts of money, more than their status and more than pretty much any of the huge marketing machine football clubs in the world.

If Arsenal broke off their deal with Emirates and instead put KSE on the front of the shirt and named the stadium The KSE stadium and were paid 5 or 6 times whatever Emirates had been paying you'd just look at it and say 'well clearly the owner is just pumping in massive amounts of money in to the club and FFP was set up to stop that happening'

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That 'needs it more' is an understatement in and of itself. Won't bother elaborating here.

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Gunfire wrote:
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/der-spiegel-report-casts-doubt-over-man-city-s-cas-appeal-1.4318118

It is all broken. People will delve in to emails and contract and football law and FFP intricacies but the reality is if we all take a step back and look at what has been done. You have the company owned by the owner of a football club sponsoring that football club for huge amounts of money, more than their status and more than pretty much any of the huge marketing machine football clubs in the world.

If Arsenal broke off their deal with Emirates and instead put KSE on the front of the shirt and named the stadium The KSE stadium and were paid 5 or 6 times whatever Emirates had been paying you'd just look at it and say 'well clearly the owner is just pumping in massive amounts of money in to the club and FFP was set up to stop that happening'

It is all so pointless

Yes. And unfortunately the big clubs can bring out expensive heavyweight lawyers and the ruling bodies haven’t a chance against that

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Zed wrote:
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That 'needs it more' is an understatement in and of itself. Won't bother elaborating here.


He has to be diplomatic. :icon_mrgreen:

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Zed wrote:
That 'needs it more' is an understatement in and of itself. Won't bother elaborating here.


He has to be diplomatic. :icon_mrgreen:


Being impartial never hurts.

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American, I did accept in my earlier post that Dein can be seen as introducing Kroenke to Arsenal. I’m sure I did say that he presumably saw him as a way of Arsenal competing with Chelsea under Abramovich. As I also suggested this was a silly decision making me give that tongue in cheek observation that he must have stuck a pin in the Forbes’ Rich lList of multi-billionaires with him not doing adequate research on whose name the pin struck.

But, and as I also implied earlier it’s a very big but, it was not Dein who sold the club to Kroenke to give him majority control of the club. The major blame for that, I believe, should firmly be attached to Fiszman who apparently at the time basically dominated Bracewell-Smith who he also told (a word such as ‘convinced’ may be preferred by some) to sell, a decision she apparently now regrets.

So the main blame that Kroenke owns Arsenal in my view should be attached to Fiszman who basically drove the selling of the club to him, rather than Dein who introduced Stan to it. Think of the example I gave earlier. Do you blame a goal conceded on a defender who made an awful error to present an easy chance to an opposition forward, or do you blame a forward who initially lost possession up the other end of the pitch? The general principle looks fairly similar to me.

By blaming Dein, you seem to want to blame the forward up the other end of the pitch. I would suggest it’s more sensible to lay the primary blame on the defender. If in one sentence the choice for attaching blame is between Dein for introducing Kroenke to Arsenal, or Fiszman for driving the sale of it to him, for me the primary blame should definitely be attached to Fiszman.

What ever it was that influenced Dein in the first place to collaborate with Kroenke, aside from money, is questionable. Possibly they found they each had a similar business model that would work together. Fiszman may have felt that being in ill health, he was persuaded to sell to Kroenke, possibly to protect his family upon his death. Fiszman was the final nail in the coffin. As indicated Lady Nina no doubt regrets selling up to Kroenke. How much research was done prior to sort of 'inviting' Kroenke to Hoover up more Arsenal shares, may never be known, aside from Peter Hill-Woods comment "We don't want his sort" back in 2007.

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Regarding Cesc. Split loyalties on the EL final in 2019.

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Arsenal apparently demanding £8m for Balogun. Brentford bid £5m for him in January


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Arsenal apparently demanding £8m for Balogun. Brentford bid £5m for him in January

Have you ever seen him Rich? I haven’t. Is he any good, or at least as good as he’s supposed to be? He’s 19 and not played a single minute for the first team, even in the League Cup when he’d have been 18. Nketiah, AMN, Emile Smith Rowe and Nelson, who arguably fall short of top quality as some have suggested any or all should be sold, all made their debuts at 18. Saka, who is surely even better and nobody had suggested selling, made his debut at 17. Might that say something?

I admit I don’t know because I haven’t seen him. So I need advice about him.


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No Guendouzi for FAC final. Özil is in Turkey.

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Özil is in Turkey.

Sorting out a transfer (hopefully) or some sort of break or holiday?


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I would like to raise the stakes for the cup final. Winner gets to take Luiz for the next year.

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HAHAHAHA :15laughter: He said 'respect'...too funny. Must be trolling

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Bernard wrote:
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Arsenal apparently demanding £8m for Balogun. Brentford bid £5m for him in January

Have you ever seen him Rich? I haven’t. Is he any good, or at least as good as he’s supposed to be? He’s 19 and not played a single minute for the first team, even in the League Cup when he’d have been 18. Nketiah, AMN, Emile Smith Rowe and Nelson, who arguably fall short of top quality as some have suggested any or all should be sold, all made their debuts at 18. Saka, who is surely even better and nobody had suggested selling, made his debut at 17. Might that say something?

I admit I don’t know because I haven’t seen him. So I need advice about him.

Hi Bernard, no I’ve never watched a game of his, only YouTube type videos showing that he’s a good finisher and has scored lots of goals at youth level. But that would be no different to Nketiah or Afobe.

I would hope the really exclusive talent, like Saka, is fast tracked and moved to the first team quickly to show the trust the club has in the players ability. The rest we should be a) selling for good money and b) putting buy back clauses in if we’re slightly reluctantly selling - usually because the player can’t see a pathway to the first team


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Thanks for the info Rich.


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Hmmn

Woke up today with a feeling we might win this one for some reason. Once more into the breach

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Wahayyy.....Cup Final Day......feel the buzzz....


No I can’t either.


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No Guendouzi for FAC final. Özil is in Turkey.

...and no Mustafi as well. We've lost.

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I've prepared myself mentally at some point in the game to leave it and see what is happening elsewhere. Totally different feeling than the one I had when we played in them in the final in 2002.

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Hmmn

Woke up today with a feeling we might win this one for some reason. Once more into the breach

Good luck guys

Good to hear, because I have a really bad feeling. There's just too much at stake and 2020 isn't the year where good things happen.


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Bernard wrote:
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Özil is in Turkey.

Sorting out a transfer (hopefully) or some sort of break or holiday?

Özil on a holiday break for Eid Mubarak possibly.

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Interesting how the Mail broke a story today that Aubameyang supposedly was trying to get a transfer to Chelsea in January but his high wages put Chelsea off the deal.

What a scummy paper to time that nonsense on the morning of the cup final.


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The Guendouzi and Coutinho rumours are picking up pace. The latest being £9m plus Guendouzi gets us Coutinho. Is Coutinho a £40m player? He probably is, and is a type of player we're crying out for.

The difficulty I have with it is the astronomical wages Coutinho must be on.

We'll be getting Mkhitryan's £200k per week of the books but we'll pressumably be putting some of that towards convincing Aubameyang to sign a new deal. It is those damn Özil wages which are killing us. Get them off the books and you've got the wages for 2 top class new signings


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Martinez, Bellerin, Holding, Luiz, Tierney, AMN, Ceballos, Xhaka, Pep, Lacazette, Aubameyang


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Looks like Chelsea are matching up our formation with a back 3.


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Same team that played Man City in the semi?

Let's hope we can achieve the same performance......


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7 of the 20 man squad from the academy today. 9 if you include Martinez and Bellerin


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My expectations are low, but I really hope we somehow manage to win today.


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Weirdest Cup Final ever. Very nervous remembering Baku. A win would mean a lot. Come on Arsenal.


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Form book and recent history means I've not got a good feeling in the old stomach. Really need a good start. A strong middle performance is also probably important. A decent finish wouldn't hurt either. COYG!!


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14 make it 14. Coyrs

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