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Post #499121  Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:58 am 
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Babu III wrote:
I've never understood this saying.

I've got a cake.
What do I want to do with it?
Well, eat it, of course.

Yeah, I'm eating my cake...


Well, a gentleman would offer a piece to someone. :1laughter:

Reminds me of a Benny Hill skit. There are two slices of cake. One big, one smaller and he takes the bigger piece. And the woman with him says 'I would have taken the smaller one' and Benny looks at her and says 'You got the bleeding thing didn't you?'


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John Terry retires. Hated him throughout his Chelsea career. However, I do recall he was linked to us right before Roman took over at Chelsea. If true, oh what could have been?


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When you say Emery has played no one I’m assuming you mean the typical top 6 from last year? Because at the moment we seem to be beating everyone else. The Liverpool game will be the most significant indication of our progress so far as we all knew city and Chelsea was scuttle us. The ultimate indication are the games againest spurs where it will be fascinating to see what’s between us.

Look we all know we won’t win the league but that’s not the target. The target is surely top 4 which would be a great achievement

The run we're on now started against West Ham, then Cardiff City, Newcastle, Vorskla Poltava, Everton, Brentford, Watford, Qarabag and Fulham, FFS.
Arsenal Ladies would have a pretty good go at that load of collective garbage.

I'm still impressed though, I'm happy with Unai, I got FIFA 19 and have started a 2nd Career Mode with The Arsenal, and will probably be going to an away game again this season with renewed optimism about where the team is going.

We are playing Europa League, so we have a real chance of going far in that competition and going for 4th place, and make no mistake, 4th would be a big result, as you say. I'm confident we will be challenging. THFC have already showed that new Stadium/Champions League/no new signings could be a bit tricky, Man U...well, who knows, Liverpool are 2 injuries away from mediocrity, only leaves Chelsea and Man City really, and they did turn us over early on, so those 2 must be what we're aiming for...

I'm hoping for 3rd, would be very happy with 4th, would consider 6th a disaster.
And at least semis in the Europa League and FA Cup.


Fifa 19 is shocking I’m surprised you can play it. If you play your striker in through on goal with yards to spare the defender always catches him. It’s just not fun and seems a scramble. Think I will persist for a bit then ditch it

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You seem to want to have your cake and eat it, Top Gun.

I've never understood this saying.

I've got a cake.
What do I want to do with it?
Well, eat it, of course.


Ooooooooooh, but then the cake is gone. Oh no, what can I do? Fuuuuck! Where can I get another cake? Hmmmm. Probably the same place I got the last one. The cake shop!!!

Whereas what you seem to think is that the best thing you can do with a freshly baked cake is to put it on a pedestal and not eat it, just gaze at it admiringly all day long, remembering what it looked like when it first arrived, imagining what it would have tasted like on that first day when it was fresh and inviting, but the reality is that it's slowly decaying in front of you, and you're getting hungrier and hungrier, and eventually the cake will be inedible and will have to be thrown into the garbage?!?


Yeah, I'm eating my cake...



" think is that the best thing you can do with a freshly baked cake is to put it on a pedestal and not eat it"

I can imagine Bernard nodding sagely to that one, his locks rippling glossily and catching the autumnal light.

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I agree with Davey. Clearly Emery inherited a lot from Wenger. Much of it good, some of it pretty fetid.

You seem to want to have your cake and eat it, Top Gun.

You seem to want to say
a) that NOTHING of Wenger's spirit lingers. This argument is employed when something good happens. For example, if a good movement is completed with someone actually having a bloody shot even if they are more than 3 yards out (as opposed to the ball, after reaching Özil in a highly promising position, being shuttled via a series of lovely backward and sideways passes, back to our goalkeeper).

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b) that his spirit still hangs around like a bad fart. This argument is trundled out (and the NOTHING argument is parked) when something goes wrong.


On the contrary I think there is nothing left of Wengers legacy it’s been rightly dismantled. Pretty much all the technical team got fired, we’ve even got a new CEO. New methods and tactics.

What Emery hasn’t been able to change though is the players he inherited and gaps in his squad as this will take significant investment and time. I’m pretty sure Emery will sign a wide midfield plAyer first opportunity. What seems illogical to me though is to put down Ramsey’s goal to Arsene when it displayed confidence and decisiveness that was beyond Wengers side for some time let’s be real.

I think we should agree to disagree (another saying that Babu's mind might find hard to process--but I'll risk that) about that one.

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...Yeah, I'm eating my cake...

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What seems illogical to me though is to put down Ramsey’s goal to Arsene when it displayed confidence and decisiveness that was beyond Wengers side for some time let’s be real.


I'm not putting Ramsey's goal to Wenger. Just curious that none of the 100+ goals scored last season displayed anything like this "confidence and decisiveness" you mentioned?

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You seem to want to have your cake and eat it, Top Gun.

I've never understood this saying.



Because you can have cake or eat it, you can’t do both. If you eat it you don’t have it anymore.

You’re taking about having cake THEN eating it. You can’t have your cake AND simultaneously have eaten it. It’s isn’t Shrodingers cake.

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You can't have your cake and eat it (too) is a popular English idiomatic proverb or figure of speech.[1] The proverb literally means "you cannot simultaneously retain your cake and eat it". Once the cake is eaten, it is gone. It can be used to say that one cannot or should not have or want more than one deserves or is reasonable, or that one cannot or should not try to have two incompatible things. The proverb's meaning is similar to the phrases "you can't have it both ways" and "you can't have the best of both worlds."

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I've never understood this saying.



Because you can have cake or eat it, you can’t do both. If you eat it you don’t have it anymore.

You’re taking about having cake THEN eating it. You can’t have your cake AND simultaneously have eaten it. It’s isn’t Shrodingers cake.

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It's better to have had cake and ate it than to never having cake at all.


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I decided to do like Babu and have my cake and eat it too.


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A few years ago I posted a Cake team:

Graham Stack

Rum Babayaro
Trevor Cherry
Ashley Doughnut Cole

Mikel Artarta
Nigel Reo-Coconut
Jason Yule Log

Robin Vanilla Persie
Juan Pablo Angel
Francis Jaffas
Jamie Lardy

Manager: Jose Meringue
Referee: Mark Battenburg

Apologies...

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Babu III wrote:
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Because you can have cake or eat it, you can’t do both. If you eat it you don’t have it anymore.

You’re taking about having cake THEN eating it. You can’t have your cake AND simultaneously have eaten it. It’s isn’t Shrodingers cake.

Yup, that's why at the end I put this...

Babu III wrote:
Yeah, I'm eating my cake...


It's about that one moment in time, where all that exists in the Universe is you and a cake. It isn't in a box, you can see it, and most definitely there is an option there to eat it. Why would anyone chose the option " Do bugger all" ? It's a cake, after all.
Even if you didn't like cake you could, I assume, take it as if to eat it, and then throw it away. So why would anyone take the option " I want to have a cake but NOT eat it? " That is my question.

Budgeting, bro.

Although this logic can lead to 'not having ones cake and not eating it', as with Tory budgets.

I vividly remember being the victim of this reversed proverb when I was a kid ... hoarding goodies I got for Xmas like a little miser ... and my sister's friend eating the lot.

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Did one of you old geezers date one of these women? An gooner in LA had this pic from his father's days. Why do I have a feeling Babu has carnal knowledge of one of them? The far right...hmmm....talk about 'bell bottoms'. :icon_mrgreen:


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Arsenal legend Paul Merson says Gunners are ‘all over the place defensively’ despite 9 win streak

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Arsenal legend Paul Merson says Gunners are ‘all over the place defensively’ despite 9 win streak

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... nal-emery/

We'll see when we face liverpool. Nice season so far. Excellent wakeup call at the beginning. Then a stretch of not too tough but decent opposition to sort things out.

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Is May about to tell the Dupers to "do one".. exciting times!

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This has been debate in pubs all over. Which club had the greatest PL season? I think our invincibles and last season's City side stick out for me. But to be fair, I wasn't around in the early days of the PL.

It's tough to argue against an unbeaten season. Did we even look like losing? City didn't look like losing through the calendar season..till they lost. The Man Utd treble season stands out but they won the league by a point. I think the 2000 side was more dominant in terms of the league. Their 3 losses includes a 5-0 drubbing at Chelsea and a 3-0 loss at Newcastle so....

Tough but as I said, I'm biased.

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This has been debate in pubs all over. Which club had the greatest PL season? I think our invincibles and last season's City side stick out for me. But to be fair, I wasn't around in the early days of the PL.

It's tough to argue against an unbeaten season. Did we even look like losing? City didn't look like losing through the calendar season..till they lost. The Man Utd treble season stands out but they won the league by a point. I think the 2000 side was more dominant in terms of the league. Their 3 losses includes a 5-0 drubbing at Chelsea and a 3-0 loss at Newcastle so....

Tough but as I said, I'm biased.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45759826

It might be strange today but if you put all those title teams against each other I could quite easily see the first Chelsea team under Mourinho coming out on top - certainly in one off games. Only 15 goals conceded all season and 25 clean sheets. Could any of the other great teams have broken them down?
The invisibles will always have one thing the others never got so I’d always back them in an argument with other fans but that Mourinho team was ruthlessly brilliant, not as easy on the eye as the others but they didn’t care


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Did one of you old geezers date one of these women? An gooner in LA had this pic from his father's days. Why do I have a feeling Babu has carnal knowledge of one of them? The far right...hmmm....talk about 'bell bottoms'. :icon_mrgreen:

That's French singer-songwriter Francois Hardy on the right circa 1969 :

She's 25 there.

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Arsenal legend Paul Merson says Gunners are ‘all over the place defensively’ despite 9 win streak

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... nal-emery/

We'll see when we face liverpool. Nice season so far. Excellent wakeup call at the beginning. Then a stretch of not too tough but decent opposition to sort things out.

Following on from what you call "decent opposition", it should be remembered that we have played some fairly decent teams over the winning run. Cardiff are the only side who I perceive as being close to relegation certainties (Huddersfield are the other but we haven't played them yet). Newcastle and Fulham may struggle, but my own bet would be on them surviving, even if only just. We've beaten Newcastle and Fulham away, as well as in Cardiff a Warnock-led side who try to make up for a lack of quality with fight. I don't see any of those three away from home as a walk in the park.

At home we've beaten West Ham, Everton and a Watford team that had enjoyed a fine start to the season. Dropping points in any of those games would have been disappointing. But they're not bad at all. I'd say the worst teams we've faced were in the Europa League, and both games were negotiated comfortably. In my view it's been a positive start to the season, despite the defeats against City and Chelsea.


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We'll see when we face liverpool. Nice season so far. Excellent wakeup call at the beginning. Then a stretch of not too tough but decent opposition to sort things out.

Following on from what you call "decent opposition", it should be remembered that we have played some fairly decent teams over the winning run. Cardiff are the only side who I perceive as being close to relegation certainties (Huddersfield are the other but we haven't played them yet). Newcastle and Fulham may struggle, but my own bet would be on them surviving, even if only just. We've beaten Newcastle and Fulham away, as well as in Cardiff a Warnock-led side who try to make up for a lack of quality with fight. I don't see any of those three away from home as a walk in the park.

At home we've beaten West Ham, Everton and a Watford team that had enjoyed a fine start to the season. Dropping points in any of those games would have been disappointing. But they're not bad at all. I'd say the worst teams we've faced were in the Europa League, and both games were negotiated comfortably. In my view it's been a positive start to the season, despite the defeats against City and Chelsea.

Good points well made Bernard, and all without a single mention of cake :53big-emoticons:


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warrior wrote:
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Did one of you old geezers date one of these women? An gooner in LA had this pic from his father's days. Why do I have a feeling Babu has carnal knowledge of one of them? The far right...hmmm....talk about 'bell bottoms'. :icon_mrgreen:

That's French singer-songwriter Francois Hardy on the right circa 1969 :

She's 25 there.

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We have had a very easy run of games. Cardiff are absolutely rubbish. Newcastle, Fulham and West Ham have shown relegation form. The Europa League teams were terrible. Everton are decent and Watford have started the season well. It's great to get the winning run but I can fully understand the reservations.

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This has been debate in pubs all over. Which club had the greatest PL season? I think our invincibles and last season's City side stick out for me. But to be fair, I wasn't around in the early days of the PL.

It's tough to argue against an unbeaten season. Did we even look like losing? City didn't look like losing through the calendar season..till they lost. The Man Utd treble season stands out but they won the league by a point. I think the 2000 side was more dominant in terms of the league. Their 3 losses includes a 5-0 drubbing at Chelsea and a 3-0 loss at Newcastle so....

Tough but as I said, I'm biased.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45759826

This will be hard for many people, particularly in the media to accept, but before the PL there was a very competitive league where George Graham took our 1990/1 team to only one defeat. Of course there were a few of Cloughies teams and even Liverpool teams who I think were very good as well.

If they want to restrict themselves to the PL then if an undefeated season is so easy why have the mega rich teams not yet repeated.

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This has been debate in pubs all over. Which club had the greatest PL season? I think our invincibles and last season's City side stick out for me. But to be fair, I wasn't around in the early days of the PL.

It's tough to argue against an unbeaten season. Did we even look like losing? City didn't look like losing through the calendar season..till they lost. The Man Utd treble season stands out but they won the league by a point. I think the 2000 side was more dominant in terms of the league. Their 3 losses includes a 5-0 drubbing at Chelsea and a 3-0 loss at Newcastle so....

Tough but as I said, I'm biased.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45759826

It might be strange today but if you put all those title teams against each other I could quite easily see the first Chelsea team under Mourinho coming out on top - certainly in one off games. Only 15 goals conceded all season and 25 clean sheets. Could any of the other great teams have broken them down?
The invisibles will always have one thing the others never got so I’d always back them in an argument with other fans but that Mourinho team was ruthlessly brilliant, not as easy on the eye as the others but they didn’t care


Hey Rich, I would vote for the invisibles, but I can't seem to find them on the field :42laughter:

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I've always wanted to organise a threesome with two gorgeous girls - that way I could disappoint two women at once.


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AmericanGooner wrote:
This has been debate in pubs all over. Which club had the greatest PL season? I think our invincibles and last season's City side stick out for me. But to be fair, I wasn't around in the early days of the PL.

It's tough to argue against an unbeaten season. Did we even look like losing? City didn't look like losing through the calendar season..till they lost. The Man Utd treble season stands out but they won the league by a point. I think the 2000 side was more dominant in terms of the league. Their 3 losses includes a 5-0 drubbing at Chelsea and a 3-0 loss at Newcastle so....

Tough but as I said, I'm biased.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45759826


With full bias, the Invincibles!
So many have tried to get a record like this, and failed. And credit must go to the back 4 and the keeper. Stand up, Captain Adams!

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This has been debate in pubs all over. Which club had the greatest PL season? I think our invincibles and last season's City side stick out for me. But to be fair, I wasn't around in the early days of the PL.

It's tough to argue against an unbeaten season. Did we even look like losing? City didn't look like losing through the calendar season..till they lost. The Man Utd treble season stands out but they won the league by a point. I think the 2000 side was more dominant in terms of the league. Their 3 losses includes a 5-0 drubbing at Chelsea and a 3-0 loss at Newcastle so....

Tough but as I said, I'm biased.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45759826


With full bias, the Invincibles!
So many have tried to get a record like this, and failed. And credit must go to the back 4 and the keeper. Stand up, Captain Adams!


Adams left in 2002... that was the year EPL decided to use one match ball only. :1laughter:


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This has been debate in pubs all over. Which club had the greatest PL season? I think our invincibles and last season's City side stick out for me. But to be fair, I wasn't around in the early days of the PL.

It's tough to argue against an unbeaten season. Did we even look like losing? City didn't look like losing through the calendar season..till they lost. The Man Utd treble season stands out but they won the league by a point. I think the 2000 side was more dominant in terms of the league. Their 3 losses includes a 5-0 drubbing at Chelsea and a 3-0 loss at Newcastle so....

Tough but as I said, I'm biased.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45759826

This will be hard for many people, particularly in the media to accept, but before the PL there was a very competitive league where George Graham took our 1990/1 team to only one defeat. Of course there were a few of Cloughies teams and even Liverpool teams who I think were very good as well.

If they want to restrict themselves to the PL then if an undefeated season is so easy why have the mega rich teams not yet repeated.

I should have added we conceded 18 goals in 38 games.

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A touch of real class. Thank's Dec.

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With full bias, the Invincibles!
So many have tried to get a record like this, and failed. And credit must go to the back 4 and the keeper. Stand up, Captain Adams!


My Chelsea supporting friends may talk about how well disciplined Mourinho's side was in '05 regarding their defense but we'd have scored. We had too many weapons for any defense who was going to stay in their own end of the pitch. We'd have gotten a PK from them.

The most enjoyable match may be the Invincibles and the '18 City side.

If we can take part of a season, I'd say an uninjured Pires in the second half of the '02 season (imagine had he stayed healthy? but then Freddie wouldn't have been on fire possibly) would beat ANY side. ANY, Chelsea, City, and even comparing a bit of apples to apples, the '04 side perhaps. We talk about the Invincibles but the 2nd half of '02 with that run, you saw an Arsenal side that literally walked arrogantly into Old Trafford and even with a referee letting Man Utd foul and kick us at will and a determined Man Utd not to be bossed on their own pitch, we did.

I haven't been around from the beginning but as any domestic side ever went into Old Trafford in a huge, emotional, committed game and be completely bossed?

Although a great number of the players were the same, the 2nd half of the '02 season side was completely unstoppable. We spent some of the games in the '04 season not wanting to lose if we are honest. After the new year, we found ourselves undefeated, Man Utd having a bad run of matches and we were worried about losing even though we were likely to win the title.

The '02 second half was all swagger and arrogance wrapped around incredible skill and power. Where even the bench were scary to opposition. A mini '70 Brazil. :9adore-boo:


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Adams left in 2002... that was the year EPL decided to use one match ball only.

Where does this stuff about only using one ball come from? I'm sure these days you commonly see different balls thrown back.


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The sad thing about Kanye West visiting the White House was that it was painfully obvious to anyone, to both sides of the political divide. he is mentally unstable. His foul mouth ridden, often incoherent rant can only mean he is off his meds. I don't say that jokingly. He is obviously in need of medical attention and the right wing is exploiting it as a man who has now seen the truth for what it is. Even if he lent the same support to Hillary Clinton in the same exact manner it would be a cause for alarm. To be fair, the Democrats would have welcomed that rant for their person as well. The man needs help. And that help won't come because the politics of it is too much to resist.

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The sad thing about Kanye West visiting the White House was that it was painfully obvious to anyone, to both sides of the political divide. he is mentally unstable. His foul mouth ridden, often incoherent rant can only mean he is off his meds. He is obviously in need of medical attention......


Yes American, it reminds me of somebody else but I just can’t recall who for some reason .....

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With full bias, the Invincibles!
So many have tried to get a record like this, and failed. And credit must go to the back 4 and the keeper. Stand up, Captain Adams!


Adams left in 2002... that was the year EPL decided to use one match ball only. :1laughter:


Still stand up for leaving a strong legacy behind :12hello-bye: :42laughter:

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