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Post #490841  Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:29 pm 
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Even if Wenger had an ounce of self awareness he would look at this in contrast to our first leg capitulations with embarrassment , whatever the final score in the tie this is how to play in Europe


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Post #490842  Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:34 pm 
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Spurs back to 2-2. They deserve it. They rode their luck certainly with Juve missing a huge penalty right on half time for 3-1, but hard to not be impressed with how spurs have taken the game to Juve after a nervous start. Can’t remeber the last time we did that to any semi decent team in Europe let alone one of the best.

I always thought spurs had a thin squad and huge luck with injuries but this season they have missed their two first choice full backs from last year, alderweireld has been out for a while and wanyama our for a long time. Their forward players are consistently fit and relentless in their press for 90 minutes. It’s clear to see every player knows exactly what he’s doing with and without the ball.



Reminds me of our performance in Milan 10:years ago ,

Obviously the ultimate currency will be what this team win and who they keep out of their stars , but any gooner who can’t see this is a club on the up is living on a river in Egypt

Bit unfair that on people living on rivers in Egypt.


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At the moment we still have three more slots for non-homegrown players in the first team squad. Would like to see us strengthen our defence (GK, CB and DCM) in the summer. On paper we are looking very good attacking-wise.

'on paper' being the key part there. I think our attack is very unbalanced. Wenger seems to have created an attack with good individuals but no idea how to form it in to a cohesive attacking unit and has an abundance of players with a very similar skill set.
I've long thought that Ramsey and Wilshere struggle to play in the same side. Lacazette and Aubamayang look similar, as do Özil and Mkhitaryan.
There is no natural width, no players who dribble and beat a man, giroud gone loses the target man in the squad
I'd be looking to definitely add a couple of young quick wide men in the summer. Pace, trickery, dribbling and an end product. Obviously everyone is looking for players like that. Ask defenders what they like to face and what they hate to. They are ok facing the attacking style Arsenal have because 95% of it is in front of them and little movement. In the small moments we get it spot on most defences can't cope so there is little to lose any sleep over for them. They hate facing pace and direct dribbling.

No need to be left wondering. one of either Eddie or Reiss should start every EPL game from now to the end of the season. Lets ask the questions now about their ability. They have dribbling and will move around the pitch. Keen as mustard. The EPL is gone but probably only Wenger believes we can make top 4.

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Pete on the beach wrote:
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Spurs back to 2-2. They deserve it. They rode their luck certainly with Juve missing a huge penalty right on half time for 3-1, but hard to not be impressed with how spurs have taken the game to Juve after a nervous start. Can’t remeber the last time we did that to any semi decent team in Europe let alone one of the best.

I always thought spurs had a thin squad and huge luck with injuries but this season they have missed their two first choice full backs from last year, alderweireld has been out for a while and wanyama our for a long time. Their forward players are consistently fit and relentless in their press for 90 minutes. It’s clear to see every player knows exactly what he’s doing with and without the ball.



Reminds me of our performance in Milan 10:years ago ,

Obviously the ultimate currency will be what this team win and who they keep out of their stars , but any gooner who can’t see this is a club on the up is living on a river in Egypt

Yep, all of spurs team are paid at least half what their talent deserves. I’m surprised more big teams hasn’t come in for their players but they will get picked off. Alderweireld is probably next. I’d be surprised if Real Madrid don’t make a huge bidfor Kane.
But spurs have lost some players, they have sold at the absolute peak price and crucially reinvested that money.
The key will be Kane and Pochettino. Real Madrid may be interested in both this summer.
Smaller teams generally get players picked off as soon as they win something.


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Chatting with a spurs supporter this morning and while he thought aubameyang was a good buy he was a little mystified because Lacazette is so similar.


Hi Gaz,

To me the Auba signing looked like one last desperate (and expensive) throw of the dice to try and land us a CL spot. It did not seem like a Wenger signing at all.

The fact that we were so comprehensively outplayed by the Spuds and now have little chance of a CL spot coupled with the fact that he can't play in the Europa League means that within two games he has become something of an irrelevance for this season.

Not the first time in his career he has looked for the kick start in January. Asharvin worked but this season and last there are too many problems across the squad. He has run out of tricks. As has been said Aubameyang is quite old. Remember that after 30 years of age Wenger used to ditch players.

Looking at all the problems across the club and squad, the only thing left to try is to get a new manager. All the tricks have been tried and failed. Over to you Arsene.

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So who’s the best manager in the premier league?

I assume you are shopping for a new manager. If so I think it depends on a number of factors. Pep has it going on with a very expensive squad and some simply great players. But over at Crystal Palace Roy H has done a great job as has the Huddersfield manager. There are a number of clubs where just staying up is a great effort. So much depends on the current squad of players at the relevant club as to how I judge the best manager.

Lets move to our particular club. The trouble I now have is that across the squad we don't have many great players. Pep may not succeed with our squad. GK and defense wise we need some real money injected. Unbalanced across midfield and only one style of attack. I don't know whether he could take our squad from pretenders to challengers. I believe many of our players are either not good enough or so damaged goods they could not change.

Therefore if we want a new manager I think it has to be a Spurs type manager who can take okay players to a new level. The Raineri effect at Leicester as an example. But I suspect that over the following 2 years from a new manager being appointed we would need to churn some 7-10 players from the current squad.

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So who’s the best manager in the premier league?

Therefore if we want a new manager I think it has to be a Spurs type manager who can take okay players to a new level. The Raineri effect at Leicester as an example. But I suspect that over the following 2 years from a new manager being appointed we would need to churn some 7-10 players from the current squad.


Basically we need a new "Wenger" because with the financial model that Kroenke has forced upon the club it will be impossible to buy our way back into the CL.

Worrying that it appears the English teams could be about to start dominating the CL, to some extent anyway, as that will just allow the likes of City to pull further away and Spurs to close the gap (financially) on us very quickly.

Ivan has a hell of a job on his hands to get us back as a regular CL club, let alone one that can win either the PL or CL.


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Basically we need a new "Wenger" because with the financial model that Kroenke has forced upon the club it will be impossible to buy our way back into the CL.

Ivan has a hell of a job on his hands to get us back as a regular CL club, let alone one that can win either the PL or CL.


The way I see it Kroenke is in a win win situation .... he doesn't have to invest big $$$$$ into the club , because no matter what results we churn out , type of football we play Arsenal Football Club will always be an attractive commodity .

Usmanov , some filthy rich Thai , Indian , Nigerian whoever would be busting a gut to grab the reins ... if he put the club up for sale tomorrow he'd be inundated with offers ... he'd double his investment .

Our value rises no matter what happens on the pitch . So he can sit smugly in the stands with his stupid hairpiece , wispy moustache and bide his time .

Just as Spurs were fortunate to get Pochettino we were just as misfortunate to inherit Kroenke .

Nina Smith and Fitzman have a lot to answer for .


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Therefore if we want a new manager I think it has to be a Spurs type manager who can take okay players to a new level. The Raineri effect at Leicester as an example. But I suspect that over the following 2 years from a new manager being appointed we would need to churn some 7-10 players from the current squad.


Basically we need a new "Wenger" because with the financial model that Kroenke has forced upon the club it will be impossible to buy our way back into the CL.

Worrying that it appears the English teams could be about to start dominating the CL, to some extent anyway, as that will just allow the likes of City to pull further away and Spurs to close the gap (financially) on us very quickly.

Ivan has a hell of a job on his hands to get us back as a regular CL club, let alone one that can win either the PL or CL.

We certainly look like we are being left behind. I don’t believe any decent manager will not want a large cash injection.

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Parkerknoll Gooner wrote:
So Pep could take our squad to a title but Wenger wouldn’t win it with city’s, I think I get it now.

:icon_mrgreen: When you have got the biggest purse in England (arguably the world) to buy players it takes more than rolling the ball out on the practice pitch to win you know? There is the matter of which multi millionaire, top class player to put on the team sheet. hehe


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Rich wrote:
Found this funny today.
Wenger has ‘nearly signed’ so many players that he is going to nearly sign the son of a player he nearly signed.

It was in relation to Justin Kluivert who is doing good things at Ajax


The vacillating guy has lots of stories to tell

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kiwipete wrote:
Wilts-Gooner wrote:

Basically we need a new "Wenger" because with the financial model that Kroenke has forced upon the club it will be impossible to buy our way back into the CL.

Ivan has a hell of a job on his hands to get us back as a regular CL club, let alone one that can win either the PL or CL.


The way I see it Kroenke is in a win win situation .... he doesn't have to invest big $$$$$ into the club , because no matter what results we churn out , type of football we play Arsenal Football Club will always be an attractive commodity .

Usmanov , some filthy rich Thai , Indian , Nigerian whoever would be busting a gut to grab the reins ... if he put the club up for sale tomorrow he'd be inundated with offers ... he'd double his investment .

Our value rises no matter what happens on the pitch . So he can sit smugly in the stands with his stupid hairpiece , wispy moustache and bide his time .

Just as Spurs were fortunate to get Pochettino we were just as misfortunate to inherit Kroenke .

Nina Smith and Fitzman have a lot to answer for .


misfortunate, now that's a new one :icon_mrgreen:

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Spurs are growing from strength to strength, while we are declining. Wenger cannot be held fully responsible for this changing state of North London, but at least fully responsible for the the latter part.

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If anyone of their fans start doing the '99 Man Utd at Juve comparisons I'll vomit. Arsenal move into a new stadium and drop, sperz are in a new stadium while waiting for theirs and get better. Their 5th table showing has to be placed in its proper context. Man City is in its own league. The league title was won before it got started. Sperz are only 4 points from 2nd place Man Utd. 2nd to 5th is pretty tight and a couple matches here or there changes and the table can change weekly from here on out for the CL places.

I have to assume they also don't have money to spend. So that can't be used as an excuse. The big, glaring difference between us and them when we were moving was belief. We went from no worse than 2nd to top 4, they went from no CL to top 4 and those opposite trends is where belief (lack or increased) comes in.

Things may change for them if their manager of Kane goes. I think the most important person they have is the manager. They can lose Kane and I think still be formidable. They'll get a pretty penny for him and I think they won't make the same mistake with the money that they did when Bale was sold.

They could decline noticeably with no Kane. That is the logical view but their manager is good enough to counter that. Klopp seems to getting along fairly well without Coutinho. We may even end up with a better attack sans Sanchez.


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Found this funny today.
Wenger has ‘nearly signed’ so many players that he is going to nearly sign the son of a player he nearly signed.

It was in relation to Justin Kluivert who is doing good things at Ajax


The vacillating guy has lots of stories to tell

His book will be bigger than the bible and just as fanciful.

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If anyone of their fans start doing the '99 Man Utd at Juve comparisons I'll vomit. Arsenal move into a new stadium and drop, sperz are in a new stadium while waiting for theirs and get better. Their 5th table showing has to be placed in its proper context. Man City is in its own league. The league title was won before it got started. Sperz are only 4 points from 2nd place Man Utd. 2nd to 5th is pretty tight and a couple matches here or there changes and the table can change weekly from here on out for the CL places.

I have to assume they also don't have money to spend. So that can't be used as an excuse. The big, glaring difference between us and them when we were moving was belief. We went from no worse than 2nd to top 4, they went from no CL to top 4 and those opposite trends is where belief (lack or increased) comes in.

Things may change for them if their manager of Kane goes. I think the most important person they have is the manager. They can lose Kane and I think still be formidable. They'll get a pretty penny for him and I think they won't make the same mistake with the money that they did when Bale was sold.

They could decline noticeably with no Kane. That is the logical view but their manager is good enough to counter that. Klopp seems to getting along fairly well without Coutinho. We may even end up with a better attack sans Sanchez.

Kane may not want a move. I have not seen an stories linking him to RM other than stories out of Real. No agent wining and dining at Real. Maybe he has no interest in such a move at the moment.

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They can lose Kane and I think still be formidable.
They could decline noticeably with no Kane.

Thanks for clearing that one up. I'd go further and say they could either win, lose or draw their remaining fixtures this season and either make or not make the top 4.


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Spurs are growing from strength to strength, while we are declining. Wenger cannot be held fully responsible for this changing state of North London, but at least fully responsible for the the latter part.



Errr - I'll agree with the we are declining bit, but Spurs going from strength to strength? Hmm, not until they actually win something. 56 years......... that's 56 years (only 30 years less than kiwi's age, and he's ancient).
Ipswich
Leeds
Derby
Nottm Forest
Aston Villa
Blackburn
Leicester

All 'lesser' clubs that have won the top division since Sp*rs last did.

Let's not over egg their pudding. Anchors.

PS I think I'm right in saying it was 2008 that they last won anything, and that was the League Cup.

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Spurs are growing from strength to strength, while we are declining. Wenger cannot be held fully responsible for this changing state of North London, but at least fully responsible for the the latter part.



Errr - I'll agree with the we are declining bit, but Spurs going from strength to strength? Hmm, not until they actually win something. 56 years......... that's 56 years (only 30 years less than kiwi's age, and he's ancient).
Ipswich
Leeds
Derby
Nottm Forest
Aston Villa
Blackburn
Leicester

All 'lesser' clubs that have won the top division since Sp*rs last did.

Let's not over egg their pudding. Anchors.

PS I think I'm right in saying it was 2008 that they last won anything, and that was the League Cup.



And they're showing the following on their website as part of their 'honours':

OTHER HONOURS
Southern League Champions: 1899/1900
Western League Champions: 1903/1904
London League Premier Division Champions: 1902/1903
Football League South 'C' Division Champions: 1939/1940
Football League South Champions: 1943/1944, 1944/1945
Southern District Charity Cup Winners: 1901/1902, 1904/1905 (joint), 1906/1907
Dewar Shield Winners: 1901/1902, 1933/1934
London Challenge Cup Winners: 1910/1911, 1928/1929
Anglo-Italian League Cup-Winners Cup Winners: 1971/1972
Norwich Charity Cup Winners: 1919/1920
Norwich Hospital Charity Cup Winners: 1946/1947, 1949/1950 (joint)
Ipswich Hospital Charity Cup Winners: 1951/1952 (joint)
Costa Del Sol Tournament Winners: 1965, 1966
Nolia Cup (Sweden) Winners: 1977
Japan Cup Winners: 1979
Sun International Challenge Trophy (Swaziland) Winners: 1983
Peace Cup (Korea) Winners: 2005
Vodacom Challenge (South Africa) Winners: 2007
Feyenoord Jubileum Tournament (Holland) Winners: 2008
Barclays Asia Trophy (China) Winners: 2009

EMBARRASING MUCH?? :1laughter:

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...... Maybe he has no interest in such a move at the moment.


Oh he does, may be sooner than you think.

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Warrior, recently when login on I've been getting a "This connection may not be secure" message displayed. Firefox on a Mac.

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No apologies for wanting Ostersunds to thrash us because:

1) Wenger Out.

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gooner7 wrote:
Spurs are growing from strength to strength, while we are declining. Wenger cannot be held fully responsible for this changing state of North London, but at least fully responsible for the the latter part.

I'm as anti-Wenger as anyone but I don't hold him "fully responsible" for Arsenal's decline. I see it as a joint effort between Wenger and Kroenke. Stan lacks ambition for the club's trophy haul, but critically is the reason Wenger still holds the job he does.

One may hold Wenger as mainly to blame, or Kroenke as mainly to blame, or about equally to blame. But whatever the views of people on that debate regarding the balance of the blame, I think it should be seen as a joint effort between them.

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Warrior, recently when login on I've been getting a "This connection may not be secure" message displayed. Firefox on a Mac.

Yeah - Not a lot I can do about it though.

Why this happens is some members are using remotely linked avatars - or people are posting images from other sites which are not secure (SSL).

Our site is secure (as it uses SSL) but if there is content on the site from a remote server that isn't secure, most modern web browsers will bitch about it and display that warning.

The main thing is that our logins are encrypted and safe and also Google will rank it higher due to the SSL Certificate.

I could get rid of that error message one of two ways.

There is a plugin I could install which would force remote images to be from SSL sites only.

~Or~

I could make it so remote content isn't allowed at all - but that would be no fun.

You'll notice if you attempt to post a message, the site will be secure, as all that content on that page is from the SGAF server.


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john1 wrote:
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Spurs are growing from strength to strength, while we are declining. Wenger cannot be held fully responsible for this changing state of North London, but at least fully responsible for the the latter part.



Errr - I'll agree with the we are declining bit, but Spurs going from strength to strength? Hmm, not until they actually win something. 56 years......... that's 56 years (only 30 years less than kiwi's age, and he's ancient).
Ipswich
Leeds
Derby
Nottm Forest
Aston Villa
Blackburn
Leicester

All 'lesser' clubs that have won the top division since Sp*rs last did.

Let's not over egg their pudding. Anchors.

PS I think I'm right in saying it was 2008 that they last won anything, and that was the League Cup.


Look at the confidence the team has. Look at the way they move about the park. Then, compare to us. If they keep going at this rate, they will eventually win something big. The EPL is not beyond them within the next 3 years. They just need to add strength and not lose key players like Kane and Eriksen. And this is something the club is more prepared to do, than Arsenal. I would not want them to win anything major. But based on what they are doing now, it is very possible. I'm looking at now, and projecting a possible future outcome. The past is a past. City didn't used to be feared as well. But, they are now more feared than MU. Their number of major trophies is definitely not anywhere close to MU. Liverpool used to be the best of England, and they have not won the EPL at all. I'm looking forward, not back. But I guess you know that.

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The way I see it is that Wengers responsible for about 80% of the causes of arsenals decline. I respect other opinion but strongly believe this.

The board are culpable in as much as they treated Arsenal like a business too much rather than a sports team. They are also responsible for not making a very easy decision in letting Arsene go, bar that everything else is on Wenger.

If you credit him with changing football for ever, building the Emirates single handedly, revolutionising the club top to bottom blah blah blah then the vast majority of the blame needs to be attributed to him as well when it goes tits up. (...and it so has) When footballers are playing againest a better side the strategy ultimately is to keep it tight defensively, try and win every ball and wait for an opportunity. Since we sold Sol Campbell (first time) I never considered at any point we had enough defensive solidity to mount a serious challenge for anything since that date. It's been that long. This simple thing is about coaching, management and organisation. We have none of that.

When Wenger leaves we should all nosh a Pizza Hut all you can eat Buffett together or something to celebrate the ordeal being over. It seems inconceivable that another person could be Arsenal manager now and we could look to the future.

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Kind of in the Daz boat as I couldn't care less if we won the Haribo cup or europa league.

What's the point of winning the europa league to gain entry to a competition that Wenger has no chance whatsoever of winning.

If losing in both those competitions meant that end of Wenger I'd take it. We are just going nowhere

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I think there's a strong shout to suggest Pochettino is the best manager
In the league right now.

Oh and for all those who continue to think Granit Xhaka is "a bloody good player" I suggest you watch a video of Dembele for Spurs last night. Takes it off his back 4, distributes it well, drives forward always composed on the ball and rarely forgets to track back when an opposing player is running towards his penalty area.

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I think there's a strong shout to suggest Pochettino is the best manager
In the league right now.

Oh and for all those who continue to think Granit Xhaka is "a bloody good player" I suggest you watch a video of Dembele for Spurs last night. Takes it off his back 4, distributes it well, drives forward always composed on the ball and rarely forgets to track back when an opposing player is running towards his penalty area.


Wrong about Poch, what has he won, what has he done AW hasn't done?

Spot on about Dembele I believ Xhaka has become a liability and needs replacing................


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bubblechris wrote:
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I think there's a strong shout to suggest Pochettino is the best manager
In the league right now.

Oh and for all those who continue to think Granit Xhaka is "a bloody good player" I suggest you watch a video of Dembele for Spurs last night. Takes it off his back 4, distributes it well, drives forward always composed on the ball and rarely forgets to track back when an opposing player is running towards his penalty area.


Wrong about Poch, what has he won, what has he done AW hasn't done?

Spot on about Dembele I believ Xhaka has become a liability and needs replacing................


If you had bothered to read "right now" you would not have committed the genetic fallacy.

You're welcome.


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Daz wrote:
bubblechris wrote:

Wrong about Poch, what has he won, what has he done AW hasn't done?

Spot on about Dembele I believ Xhaka has become a liability and needs replacing................


If you had bothered to read "right now" you would not have committed the genetic fallacy.

You're welcome.


Well ifyou think he's referring to this very minute you could be right but he hasn't done anything AW has done in the past so I don't see what point your making unless you think the end of one game in solitude decides who is or isn't the best?

You know what you can do with your genetic fallacy!


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I think it's relatively easy. Currently, if you had to choose the best manager in the PL it would be Pochettino.

I agree with this (I also prefer him to Pep but that's largely a personal preference for more physical and robust teams).

I also think that Real Madrid would probably agree too when it comes to choosing between:

a) Wenger

b) Pochettino

I'd go further and say I cannot imagine ANY big club who would go for option A at the end of the season, past glories notwithstanding.


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Oh and for all those who continue to think Granit Xhaka is "a bloody good player"


Reluctantly I am abandoning my wishful thinking that he's a swan, he's a swan, he's a swan, and coming to the conclusion that he is a one-legged hideous duckling given his inability to defend or attack which are generally liabilities in a midfielder of any type. This is a shame because I so long for a brilliant left-footed midfielder - still miss Stefan Schwarz.

Anyway, I found a website where you name a player and they will draw him for you on a t-shirt. My Tottenham supporting mate has Darren Anderton, it's really quite good.

I was wondering who I would have and think it's a toss up between the legendary Stevie Williams and Emanuel Adebayor which I would wear in deeply ironic tribute to the fact that he was one of the most enjoyably dislikable mercenary figures we ever had and the PL ever entertained.

Come on Ostersunds, do it for the Dostoevsky fans!!!!


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It would be especially good if Ostersunds won because they could then use the headline THE IDIOT over a picture of Wenger.


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Happy Valentine's Day, Bernard.


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While I hope we beat City in the league cup final, I'm not holding my breath. They are on pace to win all 3 domestic trophies. That feat wouldn't surprise anyone with the form they are in England but what about the CL?
Do they have a chance? And if so, could they be the first English side to win all 4 trophies in the same season? Pep knows the CL very well and knows what it takes to win it. Talentwise, there is no issue. Yes, Barcelona should be considered favorites but the way City are playing, I wouldn't count them out in the least.


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Bernard wrote:
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Didn’t think Bernard rated Pep?

Guardiola has done his stuff at huge or rich clubs. How can you not win the Bundesliga with Bayern (I'm being flippant as I know they don't win it every year. My point is the Champions League is the measure of a Bayern manager, not the poxy Bundesliga). He's a good coach and I'd now welcome him at Arsenal. But I'd rather have Pochettino.

Me too. Tottenham are an excellent team with great balance, pretty strong in every dept. He interviews well and doesn't come across as a bit of a knob. And sports the smartly casual look very well, just like myself.


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Spurs are growing from strength to strength, while we are declining. Wenger cannot be held fully responsible for this changing state of North London, but at least fully responsible for the the latter part.



Errr - I'll agree with the we are declining bit, but Spurs going from strength to strength? Hmm, not until they actually win something. 56 years......... that's 56 years (only 30 years less than kiwi's age, and he's ancient).
Ipswich Leeds Derby Nottm Forest Aston Villa Blackburn Leicester

All 'lesser' clubs that have won the top division since Sp*rs last did.

Let's not over egg their pudding. Anchors.

PS I think I'm right in saying it was 2008 that they last won anything, and that was the League Cup.


Obviously a ploy by the leek eating Junior Sheep shagger to ensure a response ...so I'll oblige .
Correct about the age but hopelessly astray with the rest .

Common practice for the less educated to gloss over our own shortcomings by switching the focus .......... Man United lost at Newcastle tee he he ........ Spurs haven't won anything but they did win the Crufts Jubilee Cup blah blah much forced laughter

Tottenham might not have won anything for a while but at the present moment they are delivering value for money ..... to me that's all that matters .
Fast action , usually a few goals , structured game plan , very promising squad working cohesively ; all things to admire

....... meanwhile across town [ paying the highest admission fee in the land ] we get to watch our heroes get a ball from Čech then exchange 25 million passes before they cross the halfway line .

What you also have to realise John ....... most of those 'embarrassing trophies' Spurs collected were won in a pre TV era when most everyone were out playing sport and didn't have their fat arses glued to the couch watching Jerry Springer , or the Welsh Sheepdog trials .

Okey Dokey ...that's sorted that little poofter .


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John wrote:
Bernard wrote:
Guardiola has done his stuff at huge or rich clubs. How can you not win the Bundesliga with Bayern (I'm being flippant as I know they don't win it every year. My point is the Champions League is the measure of a Bayern manager, not the poxy Bundesliga). He's a good coach and I'd now welcome him at Arsenal. But I'd rather have Pochettino.

Me too. Tottenham are an excellent team with great balance, pretty strong in every dept. He interviews well and doesn't come across as a bit of a knob. And sports the smartly casual look very well, just like myself.


How long has he been at Spurs? What has he won? What makes you think he's going to win anything this season? Do you seriously think if he lost his best forward and best midfielder he would still win something?

Anyone but Wenger but not just anyone. We must appoint as guaranteed winner.


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Daz wrote:
Happy Valentine's Day, Bernard.

Many thanks. He would be the focus of my t-shirt.

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