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Post #477681  Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:05 pm 
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Bah - Malcolm Young died.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 62521.html

Only weeks after his brother.

Sad. On the other hand, we are rid of Charles Manson and (seemingly) Robert Mugabe.

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This monster is dead. Charles Manson.


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This monster is dead. Charles Manson.

A long wait for Sharon Tate and 6 others.


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Post #477684  Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:21 pm 
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Zed wrote:
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This monster is dead. Charles Manson.

A long wait for Sharon Tate and 6 others.


Wot a waste. She was a beaut


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Post #477685  Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:25 pm 
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Russell Simmons another wrong un.

Never listening to another def jam album again. No run DMC nothing. Doesn't matter if it was consensual Russell you scumbag, is she's 17 and your late 30s doesn't it seem wrong forcing her to do it in front of another grown man. Proper wrong un.


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Good riddance. Charles Manson the 2nd biggest cult leader of all time gone, only bettered by another cultist who convinced 60 thousand people he literally built a stadium


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We have a new head of recruitment, Mislintat fom Borussia Dortmund, I think.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... -mislintat

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Arsenal have hired Borussia Dortmund's highly-rated chief scout Sven Mislintat as their new head of recruitment.

The 45-year-old German has been brought in to oversee the club's scouting and recruitment alongside manager Arsene Wenger and chief executive Ivan Gazidis.

Chief scout Steve Rowley has stepped down from his role but will continue working with the club on a consultancy basis during a transition phase.


Why do I get the feeling Wenger is going nowhere in 2 years?


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We get one big win a season, now back to mediocrity. :icon_mrgreen:

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I find Pochettino's attitude towards the 'minor' trophies very strange. Of course all the top teams want to win the prem and champions league, but most of these top teams have a least a little bit of recent history of winning trophies - any trophies.

I'm sure a League cup or FA cup win this season will help spurs in the long run rather than another season of early cup exits and top 4. Players want to win trophies - we should know - and when those players see their previous team mates winning trophies and on 2-3 times the wage they are on they won't stick around for long.

With the revenue spurs have it is a very difficult tightrope they walk to be continuously successful. Everything they've been doing needs to happen every season, ultra loyal players, no transfer duds, no injuries to a small squad.


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We have a new head of recruitment, Mislintat fom Borussia Dortmund, I think.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... -mislintat

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Arsenal have hired Borussia Dortmund's highly-rated chief scout Sven Mislintat as their new head of recruitment.

The 45-year-old German has been brought in to oversee the club's scouting and recruitment alongside manager Arsene Wenger and chief executive Ivan Gazidis.

Chief scout Steve Rowley has stepped down from his role but will continue working with the club on a consultancy basis during a transition phase.


Why do I get the feeling Wenger is going nowhere in 2 years?

I was reading a theory on the net that Gazidis wanted Wenger out this summer and that Wenger either had too much support from his network of staff or rallied the support from his staff. Gazidis is now going about removing those Wenger-allies and placing 'his men' in key positions.

Gazidis infamously talked about a catalyst for change and many people thought/hoped it was wenger he was referring to but perhaps it was everything surrounding the 2 immovable objects that he meant.

We know wenger is with us for another 18 months - maybe longer. If we can get wenger to release the reigns from every aspect of the club then we will surely be better off. Directors of football, chief scout, transfer negotiator, contract facilitator, coaches etc. It would seem logical that Wenger would be a better match day manager if he left some of these areas to specialists and had more time to work with the players and tactics.

We have a huge amount of work to do this summer, we know Wenger is here, but if there is even the smallest chance that it wont be wenger alone who oversees the squad overhaul this summer then it leaves me a bit more optimistic.


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I find Pochettino's attitude towards the 'minor' trophies very strange. Of course all the top teams want to win the prem and champions league, but most of these top teams have a least a little bit of recent history of winning trophies - any trophies.

I'm sure a League cup or FA cup win this season will help spurs in the long run rather than another season of early cup exits and top 4. Players want to win trophies - we should know - and when those players see their previous team mates winning trophies and on 2-3 times the wage they are on they won't stick around for long.

With the revenue spurs have it is a very difficult tightrope they walk to be continuously successful. Everything they've been doing needs to happen every season, ultra loyal players, no transfer duds, no injuries to a small squad.


If you look at Mourinho's history, he would routinely use the league cup or the equivalent in whatever league he was in as the first trophy to go after. My guess is to let the players see they can win something with him. When Man Utd fell to number 3 when Chelsea got their money and finished 3rd for the first time ever in the PL, Ferguson used the league cup as well as a platform to come back. He said the players need to regain the feeling of lifting a trophy. In the barren years of not winning anything, Wenger shouldn't have mugged off the league cup. It may not have changed things but one never knows. It could have given Fabregas or van Persie or Nasri some hope.

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I find Pochettino's attitude towards the 'minor' trophies very strange. Of course all the top teams want to win the prem and champions league, but most of these top teams have a least a little bit of recent history of winning trophies - any trophies.

I'm sure a League cup or FA cup win this season will help spurs in the long run rather than another season of early cup exits and top 4. Players want to win trophies - we should know - and when those players see their previous team mates winning trophies and on 2-3 times the wage they are on they won't stick around for long.

With the revenue spurs have it is a very difficult tightrope they walk to be continuously successful. Everything they've been doing needs to happen every season, ultra loyal players, no transfer duds, no injuries to a small squad.


If you look at Mourinho's history, he would routinely use the league cup or the equivalent in whatever league he was in as the first trophy to go after. My guess is to let the players see they can win something with him. When Man Utd fell to number 3 when Chelsea got their money and finished 3rd for the first time ever in the PL, Ferguson used the league cup as well as a platform to come back. He said the players need to regain the feeling of lifting a trophy. In the barren years of not winning anything, Wenger shouldn't have mugged off the league cup. It may not have changed things but one never knows. It could have given Fabregas or van Persie or Nasri some hope.


Seriously you think that not winning the League Cup was Wengers biggest mistake. Good God man it's moronic post after moronic post..................


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http://www.football365.com/news/adebayo ... at-rosicky

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A long wait for Sharon Tate and 6 others.


Wot a waste. She was a beaut

Sharon Tate would be 74 now had she lived.

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Sad. On the other hand, we are rid of Charles Manson and (seemingly) Robert Mugabe.


Mel Tillis also died. Della Reese at 86 too.


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We get one big win a season, now back to mediocrity. :icon_mrgreen:


AG, a likely scenario. But, let's not pre-judge :icon_mrgreen:

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Rich wrote:
bubblechris wrote:
We have a new head of recruitment, Mislintat fom Borussia Dortmund, I think.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... -mislintat



Why do I get the feeling Wenger is going nowhere in 2 years?

I was reading a theory on the net that Gazidis wanted Wenger out this summer and that Wenger either had too much support from his network of staff or rallied the support from his staff. Gazidis is now going about removing those Wenger-allies and placing 'his men' in key positions.

Gazidis infamously talked about a catalyst for change and many people thought/hoped it was wenger he was referring to but perhaps it was everything surrounding the 2 immovable objects that he meant.

We know wenger is with us for another 18 months - maybe longer. If we can get wenger to release the reigns from every aspect of the club then we will surely be better off. Directors of football, chief scout, transfer negotiator, contract facilitator, coaches etc. It would seem logical that Wenger would be a better match day manager if he left some of these areas to specialists and had more time to work with the players and tactics.

We have a huge amount of work to do this summer, we know Wenger is here, but if there is even the smallest chance that it wont be wenger alone who oversees the squad overhaul this summer then it leaves me a bit more optimistic.


Might be something in this ..

Isn’t a new manager bringing in his own new people when he arrives anyway. That’s what usually happens. Seems strange to do all this now when wengers future is clearly in the balance (I wouldn’t be shocked if he got a new contract though)


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So, we are in Germany Thursday and then at Burnley. Its important after a big, emotional match not to lower the commitment level. We run the risk of doing that going away for the next two matches against what is regarded as weaker opposition.
Wenger will change things up in Germany for sure. It will look like a European version of a league cup XI. We are comfortable ahead in the Europa table, sitting on 10 points, the closest club on 5 points. So a loss won't kill us but it won't help us mentally.
I am thinking we'll end up with a draw but obviously go for a win.

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As you guys say, 'they're having a "larf" ' 17 effing million for Özil? Can't be true but knowing its Barcelona they are emboldened from past dealings with us (Henry, Fabregas, others).

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... t-11556614

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Duh?! lol. I obviously don't live in London but is Tottenham even bigger than Chelsea? Fair question.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 66591.html

Arsenal are still a long way ahead of Tottenham Hotspur, claims Jamie Carragher, who also blasted the performance of Dele Alli in Saturday’s north London derby.

The Gunners beat Spurs in a dominant 2-0 display at the Emirates to close the gap between the two sides to just a point, despite the perceived vast differences to their respective starts to the season.

Mauricio Pochettino’s side finished above Arsenal for the first time in Arsene Wenger’s career last season, seemingly confirming the shift in power in north London, but Carragher disagrees that Spurs are now the bigger club.

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I know..I know..but 'sigh' Just day dreaming what 'woulda, coulda' been with Santi out seemingly for the rest of his Arsenal career.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/46551fa2 ... conte.html
Chelsea, Antonio Conte finding ways to build around Cesc Fabregas

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I know..I know..but 'sigh' Just day dreaming what 'woulda, coulda' been with Santi out seemingly for the rest of his Arsenal career.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/46551fa2 ... conte.html
Chelsea, Antonio Conte finding ways to build around Cesc Fabregas

Wasn't it you who wanted to shoot some gay guy for blowing kisses to you? How can you have this man love ❤️ for Fabregas if you're so macho?


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Russell Simmons another wrong un.

Never listening to another def jam album again. No run DMC nothing. Doesn't matter if it was consensual Russell you scumbag, is she's 17 and your late 30s doesn't it seem wrong forcing her to do it in front of another grown man. Proper wrong un.

Trump was right about one thing. There is absolutely nothing unusual about his attitude to women and consent.

These guys represent the worst kind of evil. I can feel some pity for people who are actually mad or have uncontrollable violent urges. But these guys just do it because they are arseholes and calculate that they can get away with it.

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So, we are in Germany Thursday and then at Burnley. Its important after a big, emotional match not to lower the commitment level. We run the risk of doing that going away for the next two matches against what is regarded as weaker opposition.
Wenger will change things up in Germany for sure. It will look like a European version of a league cup XI. We are comfortable ahead in the Europa table, sitting on 10 points, the closest club on 5 points. So a loss won't kill us but it won't help us mentally.
I am thinking we'll end up with a draw but obviously go for a win.

I actually just read all the way through that mind numbing drivel in a fit of absent mindedness.

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A few interesting things. Looking at the table, we aren't doing too badly. 6th by virtue of goal differential but only 4 points from runner up. I haven't realized it till I saw the table that Burnley is in the thick of things. Same number of points and we go there next leave match making it a crucial game (but aren't they all these days?). Only 2 losses, tied for 2nd best in the league. Looks like its going to be a tough match.

December 2nd our next toughest league match home against Man Utd. And then away to season killer Soton.

We are in the mix and so far, despite 4 losses we are not out of top 4 by any stretch. The title is City's, that's a given. Liverpool is not playing particularly well. Chelsea has shown kinks in its armour. I don't think we have it in us to get past Man Utd or Tottenham come May.

I hate getting my hopes up and I know I'll pay for it sooner or later, most likely sooner.

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A few interesting things. Looking at the table, we aren't doing too badly. 6th by virtue of goal differential but only 4 points from runner up. I haven't realized it till I saw the table that Burnley is in the thick of things. Same number of points and we go there next leave match making it a crucial game (but aren't they all these days?). Only 2 losses, tied for 2nd best in the league. Looks like its going to be a tough match.

December 2nd our next toughest league match home against Man Utd. And then away to season killer Soton.

We are in the mix and so far, despite 4 losses we are not out of top 4 by any stretch. The title is City's, that's a given. Liverpool is not playing particularly well. Chelsea has shown kinks in its armour. I don't think we have it in us to get past Man Utd or Tottenham come May.

I hate getting my hopes up and I know I'll pay for it sooner or later, most likely sooner.


Our away form in the league is horrible. I'd be happy with a scrappy win with a flukey winner against Burnley. In contrast we have won all our home league matches so far and I'm quite confident Wenger can notch another win against Mourinho.


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From you I'd say that's highly unlikely.


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Watching "89" the movie just out

Only ten minutes in but this is a must watch for any fan of the club. Excellent so far


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Watching "89" the movie just out

Only ten minutes in but this is a must watch for any fan of the club. Excellent so far

I’ve bought it for my dad for Christmas. We’ll watch it together over Christmas. I was only 9 but I remember the match so well


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I was reading a theory on the net that Gazidis wanted Wenger out this summer and that Wenger either had too much support from his network of staff or rallied the support from his staff. Gazidis is now going about removing those Wenger-allies and placing 'his men' in key positions.

Gazidis infamously talked about a catalyst for change and many people thought/hoped it was wenger he was referring to but perhaps it was everything surrounding the 2 immovable objects that he meant.

We know wenger is with us for another 18 months - maybe longer. If we can get wenger to release the reigns from every aspect of the club then we will surely be better off. Directors of football, chief scout, transfer negotiator, contract facilitator, coaches etc. It would seem logical that Wenger would be a better match day manager if he left some of these areas to specialists and had more time to work with the players and tactics.

We have a huge amount of work to do this summer, we know Wenger is here, but if there is even the smallest chance that it wont be wenger alone who oversees the squad overhaul this summer then it leaves me a bit more optimistic.


Might be something in this ..

Isn’t a new manager bringing in his own new people when he arrives anyway. That’s what usually happens. Seems strange to do all this now when wengers future is clearly in the balance (I wouldn’t be shocked if he got a new contract though)

New managers tend to bring a few trusted coaches and an assistant, they never bring the sorts of positions we’re filling as those are board level appointments. Wenger and his coaches is one area no one (from memory) has been moved on. Lehmann joined and per will take over the youth teams so there is the hint of change there


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Liverpool winning 3-0 early on. 65 mins now winning 3-2.

Can't get a good feed to check it out..................


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Rich wrote:
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Watching "89" the movie just out

Only ten minutes in but this is a must watch for any fan of the club. Excellent so far

I’ve bought it for my dad for Christmas. We’ll watch it together over Christmas. I was only 9 but I remember the match so well


I won't spoil it but all I'll say is it's an absolute must for all fans but especially those around at that point in our history. It's nostalgic and emotional watching


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Now 3-3 for Liverpool.

Unfortunately Man City got an 88th minute winner potentially, while Spurs are winning 2-1 after being 1-0 down.


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Mel Tillis also died. Della Reese at 86 too.


David Cassidy, former Partridge Family star, dies aged 67

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They're dropping like flies. I don't know if you all outside America do this but a rather morbid office game we do in the states is a death pool. Beginning of the calendar year everyone picks 5-10 famous people who you think will die that year. If your person passes you minus their age at the time of death minus 100 and the most points wins. Everyone commits a certain dollar amount.Two people can't pick the same person so you go around and pick. I've never participated but it was in an office I worked in. Keith Richards is always named. Ozzy Osbourne as well from what I recall. Jimmy Carter is another name I hear mentioned and sorry to say the Queen as well.

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Obviously I loved the NLD win as they much as the next gooner. I'm still seeing articles, videos, etc, recapping the match and going on and on about it. Are we at the point where a NLD win is being celebrated like its a cup? I recall sperz having coffee mugs and other fan ware with a victory over us in the league cup I think, not sure, but were going on and on about it.
Are we at that point?

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Obviously I loved the NLD win as they much as the next gooner. I'm still seeing articles, videos, etc, recapping the match and going on and on about it. Are we at the point where a NLD win is being celebrated like its a cup? I recall sperz having coffee mugs and other fan ware with a victory over us in the league cup I think, not sure, but were going on and on about it.
Are we at that point?


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Sperz bounced back pretty quickly albeit against a side in disarray. Still, a win is a win. How many people fear they will go far in the competition? Beating RM has got to boost their confidence and their thinking they can take on any side south of Barcelona probably. If they end up in the semis I'll vomit.

Its going to be hard for them to hold on to Kane after this season. He's scoring regularly at every club competition. Never thought he'd keep improving has he has, fair play to him, he's earned it.

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If they end up in the semis I'll vomit.


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