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Post #481001  Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:34 am 
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He did!

Apparently Federer didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament. Is that because everyone else who's capable of beating him were knocked out by someone else before he had to face them (the same principle that used to give me hope even fairly recently that Arsenal might win the Champions League if other teams could knock the Spanish giants and Bayern out)?

Wonder when the last Wimbledon winner didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament, and who was it? Or has it ever been done before? My guess would be there might be more women than men who have done it as they only have to win two sets to win each match, whereas men have to win three sets.

Apparently it's been done four times before by Don Budge in 1938, Tony Trabert in 1955, Chuck McKinley in 1963 and Bjorn Borg in 1976. So Roger Federer in 2017 is the fifth person to have won Wimbledon without losing a set over the entire tournament.

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Bernard wrote:
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He did!

Apparently Federer didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament. Is that because everyone else who's capable of beating him were knocked out by someone else before he had to face them (the same principle that used to give me hope even fairly recently that Arsenal might win the Champions League if other teams could knock the Spanish giants and Bayern out)?

Wonder when the last Wimbledon winner didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament, and who was it? Or has it ever been done before? My guess would be there might be more women than men who have done it as they only have to win two sets to win each match, whereas men have to win three sets.

Borg was the last man to do it. No idea with regard to the women.

Federer was supreme. I'm not sure any if the other big 4 would have troubled him. Not unless they hit their own peaks.

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Apparently Federer didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament. Is that because everyone else who's capable of beating him were knocked out by someone else before he had to face them (the same principle that used to give me hope even fairly recently that Arsenal might win the Champions League if other teams could knock the Spanish giants and Bayern out)?

Wonder when the last Wimbledon winner didn't drop a single set in the entire tournament, and who was it? Or has it ever been done before? My guess would be there might be more women than men who have done it as they only have to win two sets to win each match, whereas men have to win three sets.

Borg was the last man to do it. No idea with regard to the women.

Federer was supreme. I'm not sure any if the other big 4 would have troubled him. Not unless they hit their own peaks.

You must be including Djokovic, Nadal and Murray as three of the other four, as even I've heard of them. Who is the other one?

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The Sydney games were a joy to watch .... brilliant festive atmosphere , the whole crowd just happy to see our team on show ...no moaning gits like Claude , Robbie , and the knob with the headscarf and nose ring .

Arsene enters , the fans clamouring for his autograph , I thought to myself " I'm glad this old w***ker is still in charge

The fans would probably clamour for the signature of Arsenal's manager whoever it was.

Is, as you describe him, "the knob with the headscarf and nose ring" Bully? If so, I agree. I've been near him at a couple of away games and he's an absolute tit. Arsenal's two most famous non-celebrity fans (Piers Morgan is probably the most famous of the lot), Bully and Maria, are in my view both utter pains in the posterior.


Agree with you there...and I'd add the countless other 'fans' who use football to publicise themselves.

Even Maria's friends don't like to sit next to her. I went to an Arsenal ladies match at Wycombe's ground a couple of years back. Just before kick off she came along my row with 2 other people and her seat was to one side of me, the other 2 on the other side. As you would I offered to swap seats with them so they could sit together and one of them was very quick to decline the offer, laughing. And don't get me started on her bloody ridiculous chants. When I go to Boreham Wood I make sure I'm as far away from her as it is possible to get in the ground...and she's till bloody annoying.

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Arsenal have sold 19-year old British midfielder Dan Crowley to Willem II for a £600k initial fee.
He becomes player number 3 to leave the club this season, taking Arsenal's net spend to -£45.4m so far.


Personally not at all sorry to see him go. O bviously I don't know him and am just judging from what I've seen of him on the pitch but he always seemed a wrong 'un to me with a bad attitude to colleagues and coaches. A Billy Big Boots if you like.

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Borg was the last man to do it. No idea with regard to the women.

Federer was supreme. I'm not sure any if the other big 4 would have troubled him. Not unless they hit their own peaks.

You must be including Djokovic, Nadal and Murray as three of the other four, as even I've heard of them. Who is the other one?

The Big 4 are Fed, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray. I could have made it a bit clearer.

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Arsenal have sold 19-year old British midfielder Dan Crowley to Willem II for a £600k initial fee.
He becomes player number 3 to leave the club this season, taking Arsenal's net spend to -£45.4m so far.

Personally not at all sorry to see him go. O bviously I don't know him and am just judging from what I've seen of him on the pitch but he always seemed a wrong 'un to me with a bad attitude to colleagues and coaches. A Billy Big Boots if you like.

I thought Hodd said pretty much the same. Words to the effect of Crowley not being as good as he thought he was. dec couldn't recall Hodd saying that, but after one of kiwipete posts I'm more confident he did.

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The Big 4 are Fed, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray. I could have made it a bit clearer.

Thanks. I mistakenly took what you said as meaning there were four others who you wouldn't have expected to trouble Federer.

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Shocking behaviour by Arsenal in Australia for the Half-Full Cup contenders. Two wins, played well and the fans and kids enjoyed themselves. How dare they do that? Fear not lads, things should revert to normal for you in China, with Bayern ready to put you back on track.


And with that, Mr Hoy took his big barrel of sarcasm and put it back in the garden shed. "Plenty there to keep me going until November at least" he mused to himself "Although I might need a top-up around the time we play Lokomotiv Vinkovci in the Europa League. His neighbour Ada waved cheerfully at him from across the fence which probably needed a touch of creosote. "Lawks, My Hoy, they're sitting down to discuss Brexit again this morning, any news on the trade deal with the Solomon Islands that will restore our dignity as a self-governing nation?" Hoy looked at her sternly.

"What have I told you that walls have, Ada?"

"Ears, My Hoy?"

"Indeed. We must simply trust the real Prime Minister Mr Corbyn to do his best for us and secure a Brexit on the best possible terms for the many and not the few."

It was not usually Mr Hoy's way to set people right but sometimes it just had to be done.


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Federer was supreme. I'm not sure any if the other big 4 would have troubled him. Not unless they hit their own peaks.
Of course a great performance by Federer, but things went his way a little. Both Djokovic and Murray were unfit and Nadal, who was in top form, just happened to lose a five-setter he might have won. Federer would probably have been favourite against Nadal, but it could have been a great contest.

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Even Maria's friends don't like to sit next to her. I went to an Arsenal ladies match at Wycombe's ground a couple of years back. Just before kick off she came along my row with 2 other people and her seat was to one side of me, the other 2 on the other side. As you would I offered to swap seats with them so they could sit together and one of them was very quick to decline the offer, laughing. And don't get me started on her bloody ridiculous chants. When I go to Boreham Wood I make sure I'm as far away from her as it is possible to get in the ground...and she's till bloody annoying.

She sits right below me. She's in Club level and we're West Upper. She is so *%^@*** annoying with her stupid, made-up chants and constantly taking pictures.

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And with that, Mr Hoy took his big barrel of sarcasm and put it back in the garden shed. "Plenty there to keep me going until November at least" he mused to himself "Although I might need a top-up around the time we play Lokomotiv Vinkovci in the Europa League. His neighbour Ada waved cheerfully at him from across the fence which probably needed a touch of creosote. "Lawks, My Hoy, they're sitting down to discuss Brexit again this morning, any news on the trade deal with the Solomon Islands that will restore our dignity as a self-governing nation?" Hoy looked at her sternly.

"What have I told you that walls have, Ada?"

"Ears, My Hoy?"

"Indeed. We must simply trust the real Prime Minister Mr Corbyn to do his best for us and secure a Brexit on the best possible terms for the many and not the few."

It was not usually Mr Hoy's way to set people right but sometimes it just had to be done.
Continuity Hoy's manifesto promise 1: 'For every barrel of misery that is posted or flown by the Gleiber Bleak House Boys, I'll post two of positivity. Fun for the many, not gloom for the few.'

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He did that and more. His last three matches have been against really big servers and he has utterly dismantled them. The man is astonishing.

True Dec ..... but as I'm sure the Bermondsey Talent Scout would agree ...... accuracy not power was the key here .

Marin's big boomers were in the main within reach , whereas Roger got him time and time again with a slower slider out wide ; especially to the forehand court .

With the arrival of Borg and Connors every coach on the planet decided double handed backhands were the way to go , two hands you must get more power right ....? but it limits your reach and is harder to change strokes .

Federer with his single hander a simple twist of the racquet and he can slice or top spin in a hearbeat . His top spin backhand was lethal and a thing of beauty .
Federer played a masterful game mixing things up , slices getting that big 6'6" body bending low .

Impossible to know whether Cilic's injury was real or a ploy , he got the crowd on his side and sometimes the opposition can switch off mentally .

Bernard Tomic the Ozzie of Croatian pedigree admitted at a press conference he called for the trainer when there was nothing wrong with him , in an attempt to break up his opponents rhythm .

Parallels with another Croat ... Goran Ivanisevic ...big serve but blows a bit hot and cold .

Wasn't quite as one sided as Hoad v Cooper , Laver v Mulligan or Newcombe v Bungert but it was pretty plain sailing

... and so ends this in depth Guardian tennis review ...well done Roger well deserved .



Listen to Sue Barker over there........when did you become the forum's resident tennis expert?. :laughing7:

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Listen to Sue Barker over there........when did you become the forum's resident tennis expert?. :laughing7:

Although, I will say you clearly know more about tennis than you do football. :toothy9:

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Seems American police mistook this Australian woman for an unarmed black guy. The cop conveniently has his body cam off and the car cam off. This was the same city that recently let a cop off for killing a guy with his girlfriend and her daughter in the car. Feared for his life.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/australian-w ... 59509.html

Well American - when you have a culture that worships the gun and claims that everyone should have the right to walk abòut with them, then what happens is that a lot of people shoot each other. Including cops, and of course toddlers.


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The general point I raised with dec yesterday still applies though. Why does American ask all these questions if he has genuinely blocked many of the posters who could give him an answer, perhaps even most of the ones who are likely to?

I think he's only posting to the nice posters, like Hodd, Goonie and gooner 7. He really wants to avoid the terrible trolls who should take a long hard look at themselves like you, Bernard, Dec, Hazuki, Exiled, the fearsome Kiwi, Abu and of course yours truly.


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She sits right below me. She's in Club level and we're West Upper. She is so *%^@*** annoying with her stupid, made-up chants and constantly taking pictures.

If she can afford a seat in club level, is she well off then? After all, she must be retired so presumably lives on a pension.

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I haven't watched a single ball hit in this year's Wimbledon. My wife put it on while flicking channels on one day of it. But whoever was playing were sitting down having their break between games, or is it every other game?

Every odd game .... so they play one game then have a sit down , a drink , a towel off , someone holds an umbrella over them , they call for somebody to get them another drink ..... then they play TWO whole games at one end without a break .

Shoot I'm on a roll here ..... the slightest twinge or if they are losing they call for a trainer who comes out and gives their back , leg , arm , nuts [ if its a bloke ] a rub with some liniment , balm whatever get it strapped to look the part , then shout for some lackey to run off and have their racquet restrung .... even though they have at least another ten space age carbon tetron molybdenum vanadium chromium freebies in their bag .

Get paid a zillion dollars , all the while being graceless , surly , charmless without an ounce of charisma in their bodies [ Federer and Tsonga excepted ] moaning their tits off because their limo was five minutes late picking them up for practice .

.... when in the "good old days" ... they changed ends collected two balls and served ....... no breaks , except at the end of a set ...no seats , no drinks cabinet , maybe two wooden racquets apiece , Newcombe making eyes at women linespersons , Hoad bantering with Seixas , Ayala at the other end .

:laughing7: I'm glad to get that off my chest ..... outside to chop some branches off a **&^^% leaf dropping tree .

I remember watching Wimbledon as a kid and I'd be salivating over the cans of coke they could take. A lot of players used to take a can and take a few swigs from it as they walked off. I used to wonder why they didn't take them all.


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How much is a club level season ticket?

Btw I *%^@** love 'Now 80s' on sky. They're doing a best selling countdown at the moment. Band Aid will be number 1, any guesses for number 2. Ooooh Adam and the Ants @ 15 with Stand & Deliver. Great fun....


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That's a great shout on the cans of Coke, John. That would have been around the time of the cola wars. Sweatbands and Coke. A dynamite combination.

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That's a great shout on the cans of Coke, John. That would have been around the time of the cola wars. Sweatbands and Coke. A dynamite combination.

Robinsons barley water was the healthy option.

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For those interested in seeing how many women have won the Wimbledon title without losing a set, see link. There are lots! In the 'modern' era Little Mo Connolly lost just 19 games in winning the title back in 1953 and 1954. Kiwi remembers it well.

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How much is a club level season ticket?

Btw I *%^@** love 'Now 80s' on sky. They're doing a best selling countdown at the moment. Band Aid will be number 1, any guesses for number 2. Ooooh Adam and the Ants @ 15 with Stand & Deliver. Great fun....

Relax? Ride On Time? Take My Breath Away? Come on Eileen? They seemed to be at the top of the charts for months.

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How much is a club level season ticket?

Four price levels.

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How much is a club level season ticket?

Btw I *%^@** love 'Now 80s' on sky. They're doing a best selling countdown at the moment. Band Aid will be number 1, any guesses for number 2. Ooooh Adam and the Ants @ 15 with Stand & Deliver. Great fun....

Relax? Ride On Time? Take My Breath Away? Come on Eileen? They seemed to be at the top of the charts for months.

I just tuned in a few minutes ago and we've already had Ride on Time. I wonder if they will exclude Xmas hits. Because if the don't I'm pretty sure Wham's 'Last Xmas' should be number 2. Eye of the Tiger number 12, not the same without the accompanying movie.


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Bernard wrote:
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How much is a club level season ticket?

Four price levels.

https://premiumconcierge.arsenal.com/gl ... ricing.pdf

Thanks. Thought they'd be a bigger rip off tbh.

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Come on Eileen number 10. The girl playing Eileen in the video is a sister of your one from Bananarama.
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I remember watching Wimbledon as a kid and I'd be salivating over the cans of coke they could take. A lot of players used to take a can and take a few swigs from it as they walked off. I used to wonder why they didn't take them all.
The guy who maintains our fish pond told us a horrific story about his former addiction to Coca Cola. He only finally got off it a few years ago and he is now in his 40s. Did his teeth in badly and cost him thousands in dental fees to put right.

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I remember watching Wimbledon as a kid and I'd be salivating over the cans of coke they could take. A lot of players used to take a can and take a few swigs from it as they walked off. I used to wonder why they didn't take them all.
The guy who maintains our fish pond told us a horrific story about his former addiction to Coca Cola. He only finally got off it a few years ago and he is now in his 40s. Did his teeth in badly and cost him thousands in dental fees to put right.

http://www.thoughtpursuits.com/20-pract ... man-body/#

Its all Wenger's fault...

Awful stuff... I used to love it. I blame it for my stomach ulcer, haven't touched it in years.


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The awful, and I mean awful, Power of Love by Jennifer Rush number 9. Eh... trivia.. my girlfriend at the time this was number 1 claimed to hate it as much as I did.


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Number 8 George Michael and. Careless Whisper. Although Andrew Ridgeley had nothing to do with this track George insisted he got a writing credit on it. He knew it was going to be massive and as Wham were coming to an end he wanted to make sure his mate made a decent few quid from it. Top man was George..


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Karma Chameleon number 7. Utter wank. Boy George is from Dublin but I never met him.


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Number 6, Everything She Wants by Wham. They signed off with this one and it was a lot less 'poppy' than their usual offerings. The only Wham track George would perform in his live set when he went solo.


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That awful Stevie Wonder song must be near the top?


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That awful Stevie Wonder song must be near the top?

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Karma Chameleon number 7. Utter wank. Boy George is from Dublin but I never met him.
A Londoner - born in Eltham.

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Karma Chameleon number 7. Utter wank. Boy George is from Dublin but I never met him.
A Londoner - born in Eltham.

Ok, you can have him. Probably explains why I never met him.


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Karma Chameleon number 7. Utter wank. Boy George is from Dublin but I never met him.

He isn't. He's from London. His mother was from Tipp I think. He can't hold a tune to save his life.

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Number 5, Don't You Want Me by The Human League. 2 of the co founders of the human league left and formed Heaven 17 along with Glen Gregory. Their debut album Penthouse and Pavement is an absolute classic.


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That awful Stevie Wonder song must be near the top?

Still. Stevie wrote some cracking tunes.

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